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xKhaoTik

xKhaoTik

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Invincible Salads said:
how do i beat this damn character with Summoner quan chi? i thought he had the advantage in this MU no? but its so hard to punish this bitch and once she gets in she has way better normals than quan, and pressure to boot. so wtf do i do against her rising fan/float nonsense?
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I always thought warlock did the best out the 3

Rune > fan tho. You definitely win the zoning war

Rising fan float is a gimmick. Just block low and you can punish it everytime with armor or you can just backdash.
 
Invincible Salads

Invincible Salads

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xKhaoTik said:
I always thought warlock did the best out the 3

Rune > fan tho. You definitely win the zoning war

Rising fan float is a gimmick. Just block low and you can punish it everytime with armor or you can just backdash.
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isnt there a specific time to duck tho? also another problem for me is EX ass, as quan i can't punish it, unless she does it fairly close, it gives too much push back...is it really -17?
 
xKhaoTik

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Invincible Salads said:
isnt there a specific time to duck tho? also another problem for me is EX ass, as quan i can't punish it, unless she does it fairly close, it gives too much push back...is it really -17?
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It's safer the further she does it. She's completely safe if she does it full screen and does instantly as soon as she jumps

And no there isn't a specific time. As soon as she does a string, just block low because she doesn't have any OHs in her strings. If she does the rising blades afterwards, she can't jail into a JP if you're blocking low
 
Invincible Salads

Invincible Salads

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xKhaoTik said:
It's safer the further she does it. She's completely safe if she does it full screen and does instantly as soon as she jumps

And no there isn't a specific time. As soon as she does a string, just block low because she doesn't have any OHs in her strings. If she does the rising blades afterwards, she can't jail into a JP if you're blocking low
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alright. yeah i thought for sure that quan beat her handily, but i guess not, at least not up close.
 
Invincible Salads

Invincible Salads

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so how do i deal with Kitana's that like to do ex ass a lot then? do i gotta just take it and try to deal with her footsies and pressure afterwards?
 
xKhaoTik

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Invincible Salads said:
so how do i deal with Kitana's that like to do ex ass a lot then? do i gotta just take it and try to deal with her footsies and pressure afterwards?
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How fast is b2? I'm sure that punishes it. Ex ass has pushback so isnt really doing anything afterwards, especially if she did it point blank.
 
xKhaoTik

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Invincible Salads said:
i tried b2, i can't, or if it is, its probably damn near a just frame.
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Crouch block ass. The pushback is a little less, making it easier for some attacks to connect.

EDIT: I'm punishing it with b2 regardless of how I block it. It's easier crouch blocking tho. Rune punishes it too
 
Invincible Salads

Invincible Salads

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xKhaoTik said:
Crouch block ass. The pushback is a little less, making it easier for some attacks to connect.

EDIT: I'm punishing it with b2 regardless of how I block it. It's easier crouch blocking tho. Rune punishes it too
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alright, ill give it another try, didnt know about the rune.
 
ILuvFightGames

ILuvFightGames

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Does assassin strike have armor? Or what's assassins best get off me move? Also for RS what's her best get off me move? I've heard ass or rising fans but which of the two is the best?
 
xKhaoTik

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ILuvFightGames said:
Does assassin strike have armor? Or what's assassins best get off me move? Also for RS what's her best get off me move? I've heard ass or rising fans but which of the two is the best?
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Yea assassin strike has 2 hits of armor. I still use rising blades as a gtfo me move on any variation except mournful
 
ILuvFightGames

ILuvFightGames

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xKhaoTik said:
Yea assassin strike has 2 hits of armor. I still use rising blades as a gtfo me move on any variation except mournful
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Ok so rising blades has two hits of armor also? But isn't rising blades more risky since if the opponent reads your wake up then it's full combo punishable and assassin strike is more safe?
 
Cashual

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ILuvFightGames said:
Ok so rising blades has two hits of armor also? But isn't rising blades more risky since if the opponent reads your wake up then it's full combo punishable and assassin strike is more safe?
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I like ex ass on wake up if I only have one bar to spend or don't want to spend 2 because of its pushback and it's just trickier to punish than her DP.

Ex DP if blocked can be cancelled with ex float and that is cancelled into jip or njk to stay safe or even plus. So rising blades is good on wake up if you want to spend 2 bars. If they eat the ex DP you can spend another bar on ex float into air fan for a full combo off wake up.

I'll usually wake up once or twice early on to show savagery and a willingness to use meter because often people will start respecting that option and I can get off the ground for free often with buttons if I see them blocking. Or if in the corner you can jump out for free if you see them blocking and respecting the armored wakeup.

One of my favorite mind games after landing ex ass or ex DP a couple times is to wake up with regular timing, and the moment they say "whew, no armored wakeup" and let go of block to start offense I blow them up with delayed ex ass or delayed ex DP and watch the salt commence. It works so often. Also, don't forget the dragon special: d1/d3 cancelled into ex DP to blow up counterpoke attempts for full combo. Dirty stuff.
 
xKhaoTik

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ILuvFightGames said:
Ok so rising blades has two hits of armor also? But isn't rising blades more risky since if the opponent reads your wake up then it's full combo punishable and assassin strike is more safe?
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1 hit of armor and I never wake up with it unless I have two bars. If it's blocked, I can play mind games with ex float afterward or not and if it hits, it's a combo. It's safer than ex assassin
 
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Ardet

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Hey guys!
I recently started playing MKX again and wanted to give Kitana a try. Loving her so far and her combos are feeling good, but I have one problem. I saw pro players doing that jumpin float shenenigans and I saw they do float high and then later on when they land they cancel it to JIP. When I try to do it later I always get NJP instead of JIP. If I do it right away I get JIP(then it whiffs on head), only when its later I get NJP. Anyone knows why? Btw, I do it like F2 in air to get JIP, maybe its different directions?
 
GLoRToR

GLoRToR

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Ardet said:
Hey guys!
I recently started playing MKX again and wanted to give Kitana a try. Loving her so far and her combos are feeling good, but I have one problem. I saw pro players doing that jumpin float shenenigans and I saw they do float high and then later on when they land they cancel it to JIP. When I try to do it later I always get NJP instead of JIP. If I do it right away I get JIP(then it whiffs on head), only when its later I get NJP. Anyone knows why? Btw, I do it like F2 in air to get JIP, maybe its different directions?
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NJP happens out of neutral positions, JIP happens out of moving forwards or backwards. Press a diagonal button.
 
GLoRToR

GLoRToR

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Ardet said:
Yeah man I am holding forward, but if I do it a bit later I always get NJP
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So don't do it later. Timing is key in a lot of scenarios.
You have Practice mode, do it a thousand times in a row without getting njp. If you mess up, start counting allover.
 
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Ardet

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GLoRToR said:
So don't do it later. Timing is key in a lot of scenarios.
You have Practice mode, do it a thousand times in a row without getting njp. If you mess up, start counting allover.
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But I saw pro Kitana players do it later. They do float really high in air and still land with JIP. I need that. I can do JIP whenever I want, but I need that at last second JIP. Maybe that doesnt happen and I am trippin, but I saw Dragon doing that in some matches.
 
GLoRToR

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Ardet said:
But I saw pro Kitana players do it later. They do float really high in air and still land with JIP. I need that. I can do JIP whenever I want, but I need that at last second JIP. Maybe that doesnt happen and I am trippin, but I saw Dragon doing that in some matches.
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Pro players practice and practice and then practice. And when that's done, they practice. And only when all that practice is done, do they practice more.
And when that got boring and too easy they go to tournaments and make scrubs like me or you think that it's easy to be a pro.

Think of it like this. Pro players want to earn money with mk. They play it so much that they dream with their execution.
If you want to do shenanigans, you need to put in the hours.
 
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