General/Other - Smoke Where there is ROBOT SMOKE, There is Fire! - PRE-RELEASE Thread

[Hara-Killer]

smoke BF 3 (smoke shape shift) using stamina don't make much sense at all. an Dash / Move what the actual fuck ????

 

[RM AtK!]

I honestly hope he does have shake back for no other reason than to read epic threads about it by @General M2Dave

@General M2Dave has new tactics he hasn't released publicly.. He's adapted a new Rushdown Zealot Zoning Meta

 

[Espio]

Makes perfect sense especially from a balance perspective.

 

[MadeOfMetal]

there is plenty there to develop some good shit.. Shift, SB, TELE, Restand, Invis, Smokable normals, He looks fun... im excited to find tools in lab, and here all of yours

 

[dwz_mk9]

smoke BF 3 (smoke shape shift) using stamina don't make much sense at all. an Dash / Move what the actual fuck ????

Well the way I think about it is doing it after strings. Think of it like a back dash after strings. I did that a lot in mk9 and it was very effective!

 

[boba_buster]

Yea you could potentially cancel unsafe or negative blockstrings into the smoke away move to not have to go on the defensive , kinda like a hit confirm option select

 

[kabelfritz]

shouldnt the title be ´"when there is robot smoke, there is robot fire"?

 

[boba_buster]

Where there is robot smoke there is microwave oven

 

[_CHINOCUDEIRO_]

I hope in tonight´s kombat kast we can see him in action... Training mode is fine, but I want to see how this smoke works in combat

 

[boba_buster]

I really hope his oh and low starters both combo into smoke bomb and at least one of them is easily hit confirm able so you can smoke away/forward on block

 

[boba_buster]

Meter less vortex/guaranteed blockstring for building meter , how do ppl think his anti zoning will be without shake?

 

[just_2swift]

I'm awaiting the return of xXsmokexX and GGA waffle(iron) waffles. The legendary smokes of mk9.

 

[boba_buster]

Something I noticed watching the bo smoke gameplay , looks like smokes specials scale really hard , I don't think he's gonna be a very high damage character

 

[boba_buster]

Something else I'm noticing that looks promising is the fact that he has a ranged low starter and extended njp , which means if you spearxxexinvis u should be able to step back out of d1/d3 range and work your 50/50 from there

 

[boba_buster]

Looks like the low starter will chase a backdash too

 

[just_2swift]

Something I noticed watching the bo smoke gameplay , looks like smokes specials scale really hard , I don't think he's gonna be a very high damage character

You can say the same after watching kung Lao stream reveal. Just remember Derek isn't a pro at combos but he did a great job of showing him off. His breakdown at esl was fine with me but wasn't enough for most ppl but true artists such as myself can put 2 and 2 together and see what he's capable of.

 

[boba_buster]

Yea well wat got me thinking that is the fact that Derek's dropped combos were doing 20 something in damage , but the one or two time he finished one it wasn't much more , but yea u are right

 

[Vigilante24]

You also gotta remember he was doing standing jab into spear for his combo after EX Teleports. Thats not going to do a lot of damage. Up to us to find better more damaging options.

 

[Harlequin969]

Honestly smoke seems like he'll have a few mid 20% combos that then go into restands. And off a bad guess those become 40-50% combos meterless or 1-bar

 

[Harlequin969]

So I was rewatching the XL trailer and the Cyrax variation did a combo that looked like it went low, low, overhead that was special canccelable.. It looked like a normal string and might be really good for Smoke

 

[boba_buster]

So it looks like exinvis last 6 seconds , so looks like we won't be able to go invis after every spear , so he's gonna need two resets to the vortex , so probly gonna be something like combo>spear>invis>50/50 reset>combo>spear> standing normal with high hit advantage that doesn't knockdown(reset) >50/50>combo>spear>invis etc.
what does everyone think?

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

So it looks like exinvis last 6 seconds , so looks like we won't be able to go invis after every spear , so he's gonna need two resets to the vortex , so probly gonna be something like combo>spear>invis>50/50 reset>combo>spear> standing normal with high hit advantage that doesn't knockdown(reset) >50/50>combo>spear>invis etc.
what does everyone think?

Still too early. We have no idea of frame data.

We have no idea if smoke will have a strong vortex either. Personally I hope not, I just want him to be a neutral monster that can end combos standing and still get good oki.

 

[boba_buster]

Looks like most his strings and specials pop up in the air so keeping them on there feet is probly gonna be a task

 

[boba_buster]

It is confirmed , you can spear exinvis and continue to combo

 

[MrSunshine]

It is confirmed , you can spear exinvis and continue to combo

source? the mix ups are gonna be real