haketh
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EVO, FR, NWM, various majors & events all overWhat event did they travel to compete w ST
EVO, FR, NWM, various majors & events all overWhat event did they travel to compete w ST
well..my point was based on a what if. A made up point that will never exist. In my opinion, if kabal was to be teleported into MKX, he wouldn't be top tier.Mike, I love you and all but this is insane. Wondering what Kabal would be like in MKX if you just teleported him into the game without making him suitable for it is a moot point and proves nothing. What matters is what he was like in the game he was in... As an overall character, he was no doubt more OP/broke than anything in MKX. Yes, maybe not as straightforward, required more execution/reads, and was more fun to watch/play (until everyone picked him up and it got tedious), but that character didn't even have a single 5/5 match-up.
I really think people are talking about this with some serious revisionist history. That wasn't the narrative in 2012/2013 at all. Kabal was fucked up and almost ruined the game.
Not almost, he succeeded in ruining the game. At least for me. He is the reason why a lot of people were so ready for injustice, and the reason we will never go back despite all of the praises mk9 is getting in this thread. Kabal makes mk9 not fun.Mike, I love you and all but this is insane. Wondering what Kabal would be like in MKX if you just teleported him into the game without making him suitable for it is a moot point and proves nothing. What matters is what he was like in the game he was in... As an overall character, he was no doubt more OP/broke than anything in MKX. Yes, maybe not as straightforward, required more execution/reads, and was more fun to watch/play (until everyone picked him up and it got tedious), but that character didn't even have a single 5/5 match-up.
I really think people are talking about this with some serious revisionist history. That wasn't the narrative in 2012/2013 at all. Kabal was fucked up and almost ruined the game.
I mean probably, yeah. But if he were to be adjusted to be just as broke as he was in mk9 he'd be the best in the game by far.well..my point was based on a what if. A made up point that will never exist. In my opinion, if kabal was to be teleported into MKX, he wouldn't be top tier.
If the community wanted to run a side tournament at EVO, it could happen. The community has to love the game enough to make that happen. Also, if people are dropping MKX because no ESL or no EVO, they probably didn't like the game as much as they claim. Only so many games can be on the main stage at EVO. It's kind of irrational to base what games you play off that, but I know some people do. The point is, you can build up a competitive scene for a game without big cash prizes, or the hype of EVO main stage. There needs to be a large community and some organization by that community to make it happen.Why is everyone focusing on $ when I clearly listed
$
Evo
Esl
MLG
Things that are bigger than local and majors
Because too many characters don't have armors at all, and there are only a few armored launchers, back dash wasn't a defensive option in MK9. Kabal only needs a few plus frame to rape people with his midsThis kabal super plus block advantage was another lie, aside from 2ndc which was +9, very dificult to jail consistently and only jailed because he had an 8f jab that was high, REO has proved that it was nearly impossible to jail people forever, aside from that all his NDC options were +1 and +2 on block, tops. and there were always gaps in between followups going from 5 to 12 frames of gap.
B12~NDC was +2 with a gap in between b1 and 2. F32~hooks and B12~hooks had a gap
People didn't explored much but the saw at point blank range was -14 or -15 sadly this was discovered later in the end of the lifspan of the game, character with 13 frames moves or under could punish the saw for days at point blank.
And he was the best character in the game.
Sure. But that wasn't my point. I know they are different games but defense is defense. Defense against Kabal was tough but in MKX that wouldn't even be the worst of it cause he wouldn't even be top tier.I mean probably, yeah. But if he were to be adjusted to be just as broke as he was in mk9 he'd be the best in the game by far.
Sure, but the problem is, in MK9, if you play just about anyone other than Kung Lao, Sonya and maybe a couple of other characters, you're fucked against Kabal. At least in MKX, due to better character balance, your offensive options might compensate.Sure. But that wasn't my point. I know they are different games but defense is defense. Defense against Kabal was tough but in MKX that wouldn't even be the worst of it cause he wouldn't even be top tier.
Kabal was dominant because he was a overall good character he excels at all ranges for sure, but it wasn't against everyone in the cast, the reason he ended up being dominant was due the fact he could zone character who were stronger than him up close and mid range, and rushdown characters who were stronger against him in zoning.the thing about kabal is, it was almost never your turn, anywhere on the screen. Fullscreen? your playing kabals game. Midscreen? your playin kabals game. Close up? Your playing Kabals game. There was no part of the screen in which Kabal did not dictate the pace of the match. No character in Mkx comes anywhere close to the overall opressiveness that is Mk9 Kabal.
We didn't and we aren'tYou don't think people would keep playing if we had gotten one more patch?
That's what I thoughtEVO, FR, NWM, various majors & events all over
That doesn't matter. Who says you can't play multiple games, including the one you like the most? It doesn't matter if they signed up for every game at EVO. They showed up and supported their non-EVO circuit game as well. There's no reason people couldn't run more than one NRS game at a major. Instead of all these talking heads going on about the ye old days of yore about MK9, why not run it side by side everything else from within the community?That's what I thought
So you're telling me these guys all ONLY came and ONLY signed up for this? Dude ..... Honestly and no offense but are we joking around now?
If I looked it up I bet these people also signed up for sfv sfv4 mvc or something
This I definitely disagree withA lot of good mentions already, but I thought the dash/dash blocking system was going to be the new MK stardard because it felt amazing. They need to go with an improved MK9 with MK11...off with it's head when it comes to the MKX run system and stamina.
Evo 2014 ring any bells? Your argument that a character is irrelevant because they don't have as many tournament wins is lazy at best. You really have to ask yourself one question: Really how many "Top" Sonya players were there? Your other argument that since you don't seem to lose vs Sonya with Cage means she isn't as good as people say is also very flawed too. Sonya does beat Cage...Sonya didn't win shit.
At the end of the day what is the fame and money gonna get you?... Fame and money.Read some of the recent posts last night and I thought if I get some sleep my opinion would change or I will feel differently about. . . nope.
Pig I am appalled, shame & worry that you think that is not OK or somethings wrong if a group of people still play a fighting game that has lost its spotlight.
From your recent posts can tell that you consider playing Netherrealm Studio games as more of a business than a hobby. I don't know if you've ever considered fighting games as a hobby or like it in the first place but yeah I can't tell anymore LOL
Since you are considered a leader in our community, talk like that could easily trickle down to lower levels but I feel like that's another topic for another day.
NEWS FLASH! Not every competitor play for medals and money, they play for the competition, they play because they found the game fun. You might play for the fame and money but at the end of the day, where's that gonna get you?
And the reason why we got MLG, EVO & got other Majors its because they saw how tight the community was, how we was organizing and all that stuff. They saw that we were able to take care of our own and not bitch& whine about not getting what we want , we just play the game.
One more thing, if it wasn't for Smash getting all the Heat we will be next in line or we will be next in line I once to Smash dies down...think about that.
Lol didn't phrase right I guess. Its just that I feel like people(of today) pursue fighting games or a competitive video games for the wrong reason.At the end of the day what is the fame and money gonna get you?... Fame and money.