What is the learning curve for Tekken.

[MashPotatoTower]

Virtua fighter is much easier to pick up then tekken, but it is much harder to master.

 

[DeathAndHealing]

Imagine every character is a suped-up Liu Kang (minus special attacks) with many more launchers and combos take away 50% of your life.

 

[Konqrr]

You have to learn over 60 matchups (after all DLC is done) per character you want to pick up... how is that for learning curve? Can't wait to get this on Friday!

 

[DanCock]

I got this from tekken zaibatsu. Looks like some tags are bad and some are better. If a character isn't listed and a + or minus - then its neutral. This has something to do with rage building. Looks like I'll need to use a tag of eddy and Nina. Which is fine, I love using him too.

Paul
Likes (+1): Law, Bryan, Kazuya, Steve
Dislikes (-1): Kuma
Hates (-2): Ogre

Law
Likes (+1): Paul, Yoshimitsu, Steve
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Baek, Lili

Lei
Likes (+1): Steve, Mokujin, Wang, Asuka
Dislikes (-1): Nina, Bruce, Feng, Ogre
Hates (-2): Kazuya

King
Likes (+1): Jaycee, Marduk, Armor King
Dislikes (-1):
Hates (-2): Ogre

Yoshimitsu
Likes (+1): Roger Jr, Alisa
Dislikes (-1):
Hates (-2): Bryan, Ogre

Nina
Likes (+1): Jin, Eddy
Dislikes (-1): Lei, Christie, Steve, Lars
Hates (-2): Anna, Ogre

Hwoarang
Likes (+1): Jin, Baek
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Devil Jin

Xiaoyu
Likes (+1): Jin, Heihachi, Lee, Wang, Alisa, Panda
Dislikes (-1): Anna, Asuka, Lili, Ogre
Hates (-2):

Christie
Likes (+1):
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Jin, Kazuya, Eddy

Jin
Likes (+1): Nina
Dislikes (-1): Xiaoyu, Christie, Lee, Jack-6, Anna, Bruce, Raven, Jun
Hates (-2): Lei, Heihachi, Kazuya, Devil Jin, Zafina, Lars, Alisa, Jinpachi, Ogre

Jaycee
Likes (+1): King, Marduk, Armor King
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Heihachi, Ganryu

Kuma
Likes (+1): King, Heihachi, Mokujin, Roger Jr, Armor King, Panda
Dislikes (-1): Paul, Ogre
Hates (-2): Xiaoyu, Jin

Bryan
Likes (+1): Dragunov
Dislikes (-1): Jack-6, Alisa, Ogre
Hates (-2): Lei, Yoshimitsu, Heihachi

Heihachi
Likes (+1): Xiaoyu, Kuma, Panda
Dislikes (-1): Yoshimitsu, Steve, Jun
Hates (-2): Jin, Kazuya, Lee, Jack-6, Wang, Devil Jin, Jinpachi, Ogre

Kazuya
Likes (+1):
Dislikes (-1): Raven, Eddy
Hates (-2): Lei, Nina, Jin, Heihachi, Lee, Wang, Devil Jin, Zafina, Leo, Lars, Ogre, Jun

Lee
Likes (+1): Wang, Lili, Lars, Alisa
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Heihachi, Kazuya

Steve
Likes (+1): Paul, Law, Lei, Nina
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Jin, Heihachi

Marduk
Likes (+1): King, Jaycee
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Roger Jr, Armor King

Mokujin
Likes (+1): Jaycee, Kuma, Roger Jr, Panda
Dislikes (-1):
Hates (-2): Jin, Kazuya, Devil Jin, Alisa, Jinpachi, Ogre, Jun

Jack-6
Likes (+1): Kazuya, Anna, Bruce
Dislikes (-1): Nina, Eddy, Lars, Alisa, Ogre
Hates (-2): Jin, Raven

Roger Jr.
Likes (+1): King, Yoshimitsu, Kuma, Steve, Mokujin, Armor King, Panda
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2):

Anna
Likes (+1): Kazuya, Bruce
Dislikes (-1): Jin, Eddy, Lars, Ogre
Hates (-2): Nina

Wang
Likes (+1): Xiaoyu, Feng, Jinpachi, Jun
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Jin, Heihachi, Kazuya, Devil Jin

Ganryu
Likes (+1): Jaycee, Devil Jin
Dislikes (-1): Lili, Bob, Ogre
Hates (-2):

Asuka
Likes (+1): Lei, Bob, Miguel, Leo
Dislikes (-1): Alisa, Ogre
Hates (-2): Jin, Feng, Lili

Bruce
Likes (+1): Kazuya, Anna
Dislikes (-1): Lei, Nina, Jin, Lars, Ogre
Hates (-2):

Baek
Likes (+1): Hwoarang
Dislikes (-1): Jin
Hates (-2): Ogre

Devil Jin
Likes (+1):
Dislikes (-1):
Hates (-2): Hwoarang, Xiaoyu, Heihachi, Kazuya, Asuka, Dragunov, Zafina, Ogre, Jun

Raven
Likes (+1): Zafina
Dislikes (-1): Jin, Kazuya, Alisa, Ogre
Hates (-2): Yoshimitsu, Heihachi, Dragunov

Feng
Likes (+1): Law, Wang, Jinpachi
Dislikes (-1): Lei, Ogre
Hates (-2): Heihachi

Armor King
Likes (+1): King, Jaycee
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Marduk

Lili
Likes (+1): Kuma, Ganryu, Asuka, Leo
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Nina, Jin, Heihachi, Kazuya, Eddy, Lars, Alisa, Jinpachi, Jun

Dragunov
Likes (+1): Jack-6, Devil Jin
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Nina, Jin, Raven, Eddy, Lars

Eddy
Likes (+1): Nina, Christie, Jin
Dislikes (-1): Lars, Ogre
Hates (-2): Kazuya

Bob
Likes (+1): Paul, Law, Jin, Ganryu, Miguel
Dislikes (-1): Steve, Ogre
Hates (-2):

Zafina
Likes (+1): Wang, Raven
Dislikes (-1):
Hates (-2): Jin, Kazuya, Devil Jin, Jinpachi, Ogre, Jun

Miguel
Likes (+1): Kuma, Roger Jr, Panda
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Nina, Jin, Eddy, Bob, Lars,

Leo
Likes (+1): Xiaoyu, Jaycee, Wang, Asuka, Feng, Lili
Dislikes (-1): Jack-6, Anna, Bruce, Ogre
Hates (-2): Kazuya

Lars
Likes (+1): Lee, Wang, Raven, Zafina, Alisa
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Jin, Heihachi, Kazuya

Alisa
Likes (+1): Yoshimitsu, Jin, Lee, Jack-6, Raven, Zafina, Lars
Dislikes (-1): Xiaoyu, Ogre
Hates (-2): Bryan

Jinpachi
Likes (+1): Kazuya, Wang
Dislikes (-1):
Hates (-2): Heihachi, Devil Jin, Ogre

Ogre
Likes (+1):
Dislikes (-1): Paul, Yoshimitsu
Hates (-2): Jin, Zafina, Jun

Jun
Likes (+1): Jin, Kuma, Roger Jr, Asuka, Panda
Dislikes (-1):
Hates (-2): Heihachi, Devil Jin, Ogre

Panda
Likes (+1): King, Xiaoyu, Jaycee, Lee, Mokujin, Roger Jr, Wang, Armor King, Alisa
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Kuma





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[THTB]

Really weird that Jin dislikes Jun... >_>

 

[Cibernetico]

Whats harder in your guys' opinion, Tekken or Virtua Fighter? IMO the execution in Virtua Fighter is light years easier than Mortal Kombat, I can literally do any combo on first try even though most people say Virtua Fighter is one of the hardest fighting games there is. While its certainly deeper than MK, the actual inputs and execution is a lot easier

You can't really go by inputs. I love VF5FS and have been playing it nonstop. What makes that game hard is having to remember so many things(thank god for that amazing training mode), spacing, execution, characters with stances, different arena sizes and compositions(some have walls, small walls, no walls), positioning and just a hell of a lot more.

I'm not going to say which is harder because imo, they both are equally hard. 3D fighters in general take a hell of a lot more understanding than 2D fighters, but that is just my opinion on the matter.

 

[Cibernetico]

Really weird that Jin dislikes Jun... >_>

And I find it odd that Paul is in favor of Kazuya.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

DanCock

WTF does all that mean

 

[Dizzy]

DanCock

WTF does all that mean

Its how long netsu lasts. Netsu is rage that your partner gets when you get low life or comboed by a tag assault. It lasts a set amount of time.

It doesn't matter that much. I mean, tons of people use kazuya with his "hated" partners. Devil Jin and Kazuya are a pretty normal team.

 

[Euphoric]

So from all the posts, it seems like I'll most likely just be bad at it. Grr.

 

[DanCock]

DanCock

WTF does all that mean

I'm not 100% sure other then it has something to do with the rage system. When you are near death you go into rage and deal more damage. It's a good comeback factor. I'm not at home so I just skimmed real quick and just copied and pasted what I saw. GGA Dizzy just explained it.


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[Euphoric]

I see no character variety from watching Arturo's stream, all characters that I've seen seem to play the same. Or is it something you have to "feel" to understand the differences in characters.

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

Ill be back in 2 hours(dentist appointment and food) then ill make a room and invite some tekken and mk folks in with mics. The online is really really smooth....able to break throws and such. Still dropped every combo because its been about 2 years. Man its rough haha.

I guess the used the same netcode from SCV?

 

[DanCock]

I see no character variety from watching Arturo's stream, all characters that I've seen seem to play the same. Or is it something you have to "feel" to understand the differences in characters.

Are they just using the mishima's?


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[Euphoric]

Are they just using the mishima's?


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I don't know what that means.

 

[DanCock]

I don't know what that means.

http://tekken.neoseeker.com/wiki/Mishima_Family


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[THTB]

If you don't understand Tekken all that much, you won't really be able to distinguish how characters play. Even the Mishimas have differences that make them play unlike each other in some aspects.

 

[Euphoric]

If you don't understand Tekken all that much, you won't really be able to distinguish how characters play. Even the Mishimas have differences that make them play unlike each other in some aspects.

I don't. They all look like they just punch and kick. I played Tekken when I was a kid so I don't remember much. I don't see any uniqueness, what are their "specials"?

 

[THTB]

There aren't really specials, just a bunch of attacks, strings, stances and throws that will be used. But characters do play a good deal different from each other. Mishimas, for example, focus on spacing to an extreme, while Yoshimitsu is more about gimmicky setups. Hwoarang is solid at bullying his opponent with pokes, while Jin is more about pokes. Jack and Ogre are about abusing their long reach, and it goes on. You have to keep up with the game to understand a character's playstyle.

 

[Euphoric]

So far that Ninja looking dude Arturo is playing seems alright, and Nina Williams.

 

[OutworldKeith]

The overall learning curve of Tekken isn't too hard IMO. The movement is the hardest part of the learning curve, but once you get the hang of it everything else will fall in place. Here's a decent movement tutorial from Aris.

 

[ROEBOTRON]

The overall learning curve of Tekken isn't too hard IMO. The movement is the hardest part of the learning curve, but once you get the hang of it everything else will fall in place. Here's a decent movement tutorial from Aris.

Yo, like why is everyone sayin' that the learning curve is high? lol I believe that even a casual player can have fun with this game, or any other Tekken for that matter. Yeah I think a lot of us have trouble with the movement, but Aris got it covered in that tutorial . All I need to know after that is how to do the electric wind god fist in rapid succession wit my man KAZ and I'm strait.

 

[OutworldKeith]

ROEBOTRON stalking my posts again i see -__- lol. Anyway, the leaning curve isn't high even for someone who is accustomed to 2D fighters. All they have to do is apply the basic principles of a fighter, and put a'lil more emphasis on the movement. However, you couldn't even get the hang of Naruto: Rise of a ninja! Lol

 

[ROEBOTRON]

ROEBOTRON stalking my posts again i see -__- lol. Anyway, the leaning curve isn't high even for someone who is accustomed to 2D fighters. All they have to do is apply the basic principles of a fighter, and put a'lil more emphasis on the movement. However, you couldn't even get the hang of Naruto: Rise of a ninja! Lol

@K.O.E_18 I looked through the entire thread and saw you at the end, so I had to post. I didn't really want to play Naruto. -_- lol

 

[OutworldKeith]

@K.O.E_18 I looked through the entire thread and saw you at the end, so I had to post. I didn't really want to play Naruto. -_- lol

But you played cross ass lol