But I didn't want to dash
I'm not arguing for 2 frames of lag in low pings. I'm arguing for 0 frames. It's already proven that fighters can play well when set to 0 frames. I usually wouldnt have to add more than 1f of lag for connections approaching 100ms. 3f is the extreme for rollback netcode. This us why people still have "smooth" matches at over 150ms, as mentioned in this thread.View attachment 16744
This is me pinging a data center in Los Angeles. Just pinging and sending no significant data. So optimistically this is 6 frames of delay. In GranBlue, this is already garbage. I'm not even in New York. I live in Washington DC, so this literally means I can't play people just on the other coast of my own country without an issue, what the fuck.
In MK11 below 100ms is GREAT.
If I ping Chicago btw which is only half way across the country I get an average latency that necessitates a 3 frame delay at minimum.
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So even a minimal acceptable player base radius is going to have 3 frames of delay in an optimistic scenario, the difference being MK11 will compensate for lag spikes, and with GBVS you're just fucked.
Being able to play people in NY with 2 frames of latency instead of 3 would be a nice feature- but that's ridiculous to say we shouldn't be happy with this. Even the largest distance I can find in the United State is completely fine in MK11 and unplayable garbage in most other fighting games.
My question is, if 3f is only really necessary at plus 150ms and people normally decline anything above that, why is less frame lag an issue? Why is giving players the option an issue? It literally wont hurt anyone. It only benifits players. Theres no downside. 3f fixed lag is a huge downside and excessive imo.
Granblue netcode sucks but my point was even with that shit netplay, you can get lower frame lag. I shouldnt have even brought it up.
I've been arguing for this forever. Rollback should always have a way to lower input lag. It's the point of having rollback. I mad multiple threads here about it like a weirdo lol.