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Tom Brady's and REO's Early Injustice: GAU Tier List

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I'm really glad you're saying it like it is...

I've been saying it looked really imbalanced since day 1. lol.. And everything since then has konfirmed it.

I originally mained Harley but no way am I going to use her. You wouldn't expect this from someone who never used another character besides Sektor in tournament prior to the release of Injustice. So much for character loyalty.

I got top 8 at WNF knowing only one kombo with Supes.. lol. I don't even practice him at all and I still beat people with him.

This game really is an Injustice..
Just because Superman is super easy, doesn't mean Harley is bad. Thats a really BAD way to look at it.
I've seen 3 good Harley players, all unique in style, if you combined all of their styles together she'd be a fucking stupid character, she's already difficult to deal with.

If people stopped playing musical characters and hopping about every 5 minutes, maybe we'd find another character thats a diamond in the rough. But as far as I can see, ALOT of players on here are tier whores and will just follow the words preached by REO and Brady to the death.

There is no way this game is more unbalanced than MK, because when it came down to it, MK was ruled by the KKK, and nobody else.

just stop with these treads and rubbish changing you're list every min .
the list sucks stop making tier list this early in the game makes no sense.
youre very undecided and tier list suck so for get the topic
Nothing to see here.....

 

IrishMantis

Most humble shit talker ever!!!
16 characters that can win tournments is not enough for you? then there are at least 5 more that have a chance to win. Thats 21 of 26 characters. What shit balance...
Plus the rest of the DLC and maybe even buffs on the chars that will struggle might even bring them up
 

SLy

Warrior
Just because Superman is super easy, doesn't mean Harley is bad. Thats a really BAD way to look at it.
I've seen 3 good Harley players, all unique in style, if you combined all of their styles together she'd be a fucking stupid character, she's already difficult to deal with..
Preach!

I would say this game focuses heavily on spacing and can favor zoners but in no this is a game heavily for zoners.. I have yet to see anyone get zoned out completely in tournaments. Its not as easy to zone a person when they know how to move in.. Which is the majority of high level play.
 

dookieagain

Last Bastion of Arcades
Just because Superman is super easy, doesn't mean Harley is bad. Thats a really BAD way to look at it.
I've seen 3 good Harley players, all unique in style, if you combined all of their styles together she'd be a fucking stupid character, she's already difficult to deal with.

If people stopped playing musical characters and hopping about every 5 minutes, maybe we'd find another character thats a diamond in the rough. But as far as I can see, ALOT of players on here are tier whores and will just follow the words preached by REO and Brady to the death.

There is no way this game is more unbalanced than MK, because when it came down to it, MK was ruled by the KKK, and nobody else.
Nothing to see here.....
I want to attribute some of it to people wanting to win with the minimum of effort. Superman is super easy and has great matchups, why play someone else?

I'm a Wonder Woman main and I firmly believe she can hang with anyone in the game, but you're on the Wonder Woman forum, nobody wants to do work. There's whole threads whining about how a character with an i17 overhead and plus frames on half her moveset can't open people up because it's less braindead than f23 breath.

I mean I keep trying to tell people about all the options they have, but why play a character with many options with specific but good uses when you can play a character with one or two options that beat everything.

Oh well you need shield stance for this kind of corner pressure and you want to IAD to pressure in these matchups, and remember what you can parry, and remember that shield stance punishes Lantern lift . . . etc.

vs.

Are they close? F23 Breath.

Are they far? Optic Blast!

Also people like a character who does the work for them, it's a self sustaining cycle. People want to see their character win on stream, so they pick the characters they see winning on stream. There's a reason so many players are jumping characters week to week and that's cause they can quickly steal a straightforward characters whole gameplan.

If I want to know how to use Wonder Woman I have to look at a lot of different sources and (in the case of some of my parry info and shield stance stuff) go into training mode and test it all myself.

If I want to know how to use Superman, Black Adam, or Lantern I can watch any stream and see 10 guys doing it for me.

This is also why I'm making video guides for every character who even slightly interests me. I'm hoping if I can spoonfeed people the basics, they'll at least give a character they like a shot.
 

Red Reaper

The Hyrax Whisperer
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Just because Superman is super easy, doesn't mean Harley is bad. Thats a really BAD way to look at it.
I've seen 3 good Harley players, all unique in style, if you combined all of their styles together she'd be a fucking stupid character, she's already difficult to deal with.

If people stopped playing musical characters and hopping about every 5 minutes, maybe we'd find another character thats a diamond in the rough. But as far as I can see, ALOT of players on here are tier whores and will just follow the words preached by REO and Brady to the death.

There is no way this game is more unbalanced than MK, because when it came down to it, MK was ruled by the KKK, and nobody else.

I never really said that. I didn't say Superman is good and super easy, so Harley is bad. If anything I said: Superman is good and super easy, and Harley is not.

Maybe it's because you don't understand the character, but I'm pretty sure she's mediocre. I asked you what was so good about her before and you never answered me. Normally people down play characters they use because they want to pretend they're low tier heroes, but I'm not even using Harley and I'm saying she sucks. I actually DID use her too, for a while. So I understand her problems, this isn't just stuff I'm pulling out of nowhere or just because I played a Harley.

I wasn't a tier whore before. In fact, I never used a character outside of Sektor in tournament. . This game just isn't fair enough for mid tier character loyalty. I didn't even listen to REO and Brady, I saw the bullshit on my own. It's not like it's difficult to see. At the WNF release tournament I was using Supes and Raven. Do you really think I checked TYM real quick to decide which character to use on Day 1? I don't even think they mentioned how retarded he was on day 1.

You kan say what you want about MK but in MK I never felt like I kouldn't win with Sektor.
 

dookieagain

Last Bastion of Arcades
Eggsackly what I was thinking... lol..

Interractables that get you out of the korner for free? Push Block? Invincibilty on Back Dashes? Deathstroke?
Dude man. . . Deathstroke has nothing on Cyborg. I know there isn't a lot of good video, but here is The Counterzoner getting smashed by almost pure zoning.

 
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SaJa

FH_FenriR
If Cyborg wouldn't have a block infinite where would he be ? I mean, from what I've seen no one does ia constantly with him for now so maybe we can place him where he truly deserves ?
 

Sasuga

Kombatant
The tier list has been reorganized a little bit.

S+ Cyborg (block infinite combo)
S Aquaman, Batman, Black Adam, Deathstroke, Superman
A+ Doomsday, Green Lantern, Killer Frost, Nightwing, Solomon Grundy, Wonder Woman
A Catwoman, Green Arrow, Hawkgirl, Raven, Sinestro, The Flash
B Ares, Joker, Shazam
C Harley Quinn, Lex Luthor
D Bane, Lobo
Seems accurate to me for the time being. I'd place Batman in A/A+ and GA in A+.
 

Red Reaper

The Hyrax Whisperer
Administrator
Dude man. . . Deathstroke has nothing on Cyborg. I know there isn't a lot of good video, but here is The Counterzoner getting smashed by almost pure zoning.
Yeah...

I kan see how f*cked up Cyborg is... lol. Luckily, he does require more work execution though so that stops a lot of people from using him.

If he was easier even I would use him, and I hate zoners.
 

dookieagain

Last Bastion of Arcades
Didn't know Flash was that good. :/
He has the best safe 50-50 in the game between f21df1 and 12df1. And with trait both approach 50%. He has weaknesses though, and he can't stay in your face because he's at minus frames after everything.
 

SLy

Warrior
If Cyborg wouldn't have a block infinite where would he be ? I mean, from what I've seen no one does ia constantly with him for now so maybe we can place him where he truly deserves ?
I think even without Infinite he would still be top 10 or 7 honestly.. He has the best Zoning in the game..
 

Deyrax

Skarlet who ?
What's the point of making tier lists so early ? Feels like people are more obsessed with creating tier lists rather than figuring out the matchups.
 
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SaJa

FH_FenriR
He has the best safe 50-50 in the game between f21df1 and 12df1. And with trait both approach 50%. He has weaknesses though, and he can't stay in your face because he's at minus frames after everything.
Everything is punishable. Even his d3 lol. He has 20sec trait and his best string are interuptable. His f2 is blocked on reaction which makes his 50/50 not that good offline.

What's the point of making tier lists so early ? Feels like people are more obsessed with creating tier lists rather than figuring out the matchups.

We always do a tier list from the good and bad matchups. Injustice isn't our first fighting game we now have experience to early say what's good or not even if it may change with the evolving kommunauty experience. A tier list should be done every 2 months.
 

dookieagain

Last Bastion of Arcades
Everything is punishable. Even his d3 lol. He has 20sec trait and his best string are interuptable. His f2 is blocked on reaction which makes his 50/50 not that good offline.




We always do a tier list from the good and bad matchups. Injustice isn't our first fighting game we now have experience to early say what's good or not even if it may change with the evolving kommunauty experience. A tier list should be done every 2 months.
You end the strings in df1 it's -4 on block. It's not punishable. (Except by superman super) I rarely use his d3 though, and you can set it up off a hard knockdown where it is very hard to block on reaction. Plus he has amazing punishes that go right into his knockdown game with lightning charge and his uppercut. Plus his back 2 2 is an amazing string. He whiff punishes like nobody's business.
 

CY MasterHavik

Master of Chaos and Jax
Not a bad list....a lot of characters are mad good. Why is Lobo the worst?

Btw, I'm cool with Raven and KF's placement since I play them.
 

SaJa

FH_FenriR
I rarely use his d3 though
And you shouldn't even if this is his only decent low reach he has.

Plus he has amazing punishes that go right into his knockdown game with lightning charge and his uppercut
Lighting charge and his upercut are unsafe. Flash can't even punish BA's normal divekick unless you take the risk to air upercut him in close range.
Flash's AA suck.
 
Damn you guys think lobo is the worst? I don't see it atm, I guess vs good players his options are reduced but I don't think he's that's bad, I mean didn't Reo say he was mid a while ago?
 

Red Reaper

The Hyrax Whisperer
Administrator
u have some options like wake up block and dash
and alot forgot about the R2 while blocking its damn good
I don't think you understood me at all. lol.

I was saying the reasons why he would like the game. (No idea what you think I said.. haha)