"This Princess Fights Her Own Battles." - Starfire General Discussion

[Tony at Home]

I'm installing the patch rn. Talk to me guys; are the damage nerfs extreme or nah?

With Stupidman as opponent
B2, mb3, j3, 113, db3, 4 (hold)

Prepatch: 453
Now: 332

 

[jmt]

With Stupidman as opponent
B2, mb3, j3, 113, db3, 4 (hold)

Prepatch: 453
Now: 332

Holy fuck that sucks

 

[StormGoddess]

New gear moves have finally been added...

 

[Tweedy]

I feel like they were uneducated nerfs just to avoid possible CEO Tanya/ECT Deadshot performances. Her chip is still retarded. I don't think she was the best anyways but her nerfs didn't really do much imo.

 

[xKhaoTik]

I feel like they were uneducated nerfs just to avoid possible CEO Tanya/ECT Deadshot performances. Her chip is still (soap bar in my mouth). I don't think she was the best anyways but her nerfs didn't really do much imo.

That's what I've been saying. People think she got butchered but na. Her gameplay is untouched. She just has to hit you a couple more times. That's it

 

[thlityoursloat]

I think it was a smart and calculated decision, her OD damage was her most standout dirt.

 

[Tweedy]

I think it was a smart and calculated decision, her OD damage was her most standout dirt.

I don't agree at all. Firestorm always did as much damage and no one is calling him CEO Tanya. I think if anything her biggest dirt was her chip, which she still has.

 

[JesterSMX]

How does starfire do against supes, darkseid, batman, and red hood? I main cheetah and need a fun secondary to cover her weaknesses.

 

[NeroOps]

How does starfire do against supes, darkseid, batman, and red hood? I main cheetah and need a fun secondary to cover her weaknesses.

Imo from hardest to easiest mu in this order batman, darkseid, supes, then redhood.

 

[Hertog]

I guess meterburning her trait as a combo ender is pretty useless now?

 

[Roy Arkon]

I guess meterburning her trait as a combo ender is pretty useless now?

Like we said in Hebrew, you got too far. The Trait is still great as combo ender.

 

[Ragnarök Tyr]

Damage nerfed, but her gameplan is still the same. Her excessive meter gain and chip damage still make her a threat. As Khaotik alrea dy mentioned you just have to hit the opponent a couple more times.

 

[NeroOps]

Yeah combos that involve 23 or b2 were slightly reduce damage wise. DB3 into trait still does decent damage for enders in combos. Unless the damage dampener kicks in.
Using S3 in combos gives her great damage, long as you don't use 23 or b2 with it.

 

[Vigilante24]

Does the nerfed D1 MB Orb no longer combo'ing mean she is now the second character in the game (Capt Cold being the other) without a solid 6f or 7f punish? If so that really sucks.

 

[Tweedy]

Wow she can't do d1 bgb now. So she can't bgb off of her quickest punisher and mid in general.

Totally went untouched amirite.

bgb = background bounce if someone doesn't know

 

[DarksydeDash]

Wow she can't do d1 bgb now. So she can't bgb off of her quickest punisher and mid in general.

Totally went untouched amirite.

bgb = background bounce if someone doesn't know

But every character can do that, was this unintentional?

 

[Tweedy]

But every character can do that, was this unintentional?

Every character besides Starfire and Darkseid I believe. They're good characters but I hope if they nerf her more they can at least return that.

And I guess so since it was done by the cancel advantage nerf to her d1.

 

[axcelerate]

Wow she can't do d1 bgb now. So she can't bgb off of her quickest punisher and mid in general.

Totally went untouched amirite.

bgb = background bounce if someone doesn't know

Honestly I'm pretty pissed. I'm thinking it was an error that will hopefully get patched real quick.

 

[JesterSMX]

Imo from hardest to easiest mu in this order batman, darkseid, supes, then redhood.

Supes and red hood 5/5? I'm in! What would you say is the toughest part of Batman matchup with starfire's tool set?

 

[Tweedy]

Supes and red hood 5/5? I'm in! What would you say is the toughest part of Batman matchup with starfire's tool set?

I think she loses to Red Hood personally. Superman is probably even or better. No comment on Batman as of now.

 

[axcelerate]

I think she loses to Red Hood personally. Superman is probably even or better. No comment on Batman as of now.

I struggle with superman hard. I find avoiding f2 is difficult. His laser seem to always find me at the wrong times. I like the Batman matchup. I find that after a b2 conversion well at least pre patch i can stop Batman from jumping and that for me is a great victory. I End strings with mb hairflip so I can backdash and keep the space. I just try to be prepared to anti air

 

[Peckapowa]

How does starfire do against supes, darkseid, batman, and red hood? I main cheetah and need a fun secondary to cover her weaknesses.

supes? prolly wins
darkseid ? punishes lasers and outfootises.. fine i'd say?
batman? even at worst if she gets in a zoning rhythm its rough for the bats..
red hood? also even at worst, probably wins tbh.
also she beats cheetah for shizzle.

starfire's hardest MUs for me have been deadshot (she loses), doctor fate (fate prolly wins) and then black adam (i suck against adam). I could see a really really good flash being harmful as well.

everyone else she probably beats fairly handily. she's similar to like kenshi or freddy imo - really really strong zoning and tools but a few kryptonites but bops most of em. deadshot is hers.

 

[B. Shazzy]

peckapowa was the original tweedy back in his day man

 

[JesterSMX]

supes? prolly wins
darkseid ? punishes lasers and outfootises.. fine i'd say?
batman? even at worst if she gets in a zoning rhythm its rough for the bats..
red hood? also even at worst, probably wins tbh.
also she beats cheetah for shizzle.

starfire's hardest MUs for me have been deadshot (she loses), doctor fate (fate prolly wins) and then black adam (i suck against adam). I could see a really really good flash being harmful as well.

everyone else she probably beats fairly handily. she's similar to like kenshi or freddy imo - really really strong zoning and tools but a few kryptonites but bops most of em. deadshot is hers.

Can you elaborate on why you think that? Also, can you talk like a normal person?

 

[ShadyHeart]

I don't understand why D1 > MB Stardust was removed. It was fully punishable on block and couldn't be hit confirmed ya?