Tech The Stock Market Returns: Post Final Round Edition

[coolwhip]

Why is it so inconceivable that an all Reptile player could make top 8 at a major? (This is based on Wonder Chef's post). I'm pretty sure it's completely possible, hell even likely, that it could happen if say, MIT went all Reptile. I hope he does it to prove a point.

 

[xSMoKEx]

 

[STRYKIE]

Why is it so inconceivable that an all Reptile player could make top 8 at a major? (This is based on Wonder Chef's post). I'm pretty sure it's completely possible, hell even likely, that it could happen if say, MIT went all Reptile. I hope he does it to prove a point.

I'm pretty sure Chef is exaggerating, off the top of my head, Sektor's, Sub-Zero's and Noob's stock hasn't changed much at all in the last year (Lin Kuei top 5? #Kappa) and have still got top 8, and are all unquestionably lower than Reptile.

Doesn't play SZ anymore and has never made top 8 at a major going ALL Sub.

I wasn't referring to Denzell in the above post but what about MLG Anaheim?

 

[Smarrgasm]

Can anyone tell me who beat Cat in top 16? I never caught who did. Just curious.

Cat lost to noobe in top 16. And to refer to your other post tyler lantern was very close to making top 8 with reptile. He got 13th after being knocked out by his own training partner. If he had won he would have played another ATL player in pokchop for top 8 and could have easily had a chance to win. Reptile is very viable and i think tyler has a great chance at any tournament he goes to seeing as hes one of the few sole reptile players.

 

[Flagg]

It's only the Skarlet community that up plays the character and rightly so, everyone else downplays their character, even Reptiles!

Reptile is good, the elbow dash is good but still punishable, but it has it's uses beyond attacking.

 

[Vagrant]

That is not highest level of play then. One of the reasons Tommy was smashing shit up was because if you left the ground, be it a cross-up or a jip then you got hit. If someone jumps at you there is plenty of time to react and punish, being nervous or scared and wavering is not the highest level of play.

Do you have any idea how many times I've punished an AA attempt with a dive kick for 40%? Or how many times 16 bit has jumped in on me and stuffed my aa with air fan? Alot of chars have air mind games that create mixups... If you don't feel it's highest level of play than maybe you can come show everyone how its done next time?

 

[Phosferrax]

Reptile players don't place top 8 because of Reptile players. Why is it that other character specialists can do this but somehow with like Reptile, Smoke and a few others it's impossible, they're not viable and the bad MU are automatic loses?

My last major was SCR. My path to top 8 was Kabal, Kitana, Reptile, Kabal. Who's going to tell me a dedicated Reptile couldn't make it through that? Even if conservative MUs for Kitana it was two bad MU, a mirror and an even MU. If I was a Reptile player I'd have been..two bad MU, a mirror and an even MU.

If you're a top elite level player you should be able to overcome most opponents regardless of the MU. Then you MIGHT have to overcome maybe one if at most two bad MU against a player of your caliber.

I agree that Reptile isn't performing to his potential. But if you're going to have the balls to tell the Reptile community that they're playing the character wrong, you would want to have more substance to your argument about the character's mechanics than some vague notion of forceballs and dash.

 

[Phosferrax]

Do you have any idea how many times I've punished an AA attempt with a dive kick for 40%? Or how many times 16 bit has jumped in on me and stuffed my aa with air fan? Alot of chars have air mind games that create mixups... If you don't feel it's highest level of play than maybe you can come show everyone how its done next time?

Read my before comment, Reptile doesn't get shit like that. He gets either a slide which leaves him in his worst position on the screen or he gets shenanigans.

 

[zaf]

If the scene becomes as big as it's seeming, we may have a true west to east Injustice scene. The Maritimes are the same way. Mostly SF4/Marvel players, but they are ALL excited for injustice. High Tide Throwdown is at the end of May, and Injustice will have the most entrants. I am hoping to plant the seed early so that we can be hella competitive as well. If Montreal ends up as big as you say it is, we are only a car ride away from having some pretty decent tournaments. Factor in Toronto and you got one hell of a east coast scene.

our scene will be big, not just big but the talent is also going to be huge. montreal has amazing SF players, marvel players, mk playersr( well 2 of us like i said), blazblue, pretty much all games.and all our players usually place really well where ever they go.... BUT i will not be playing injustice. lololol, i will help out with the scene, but i will not compete.

 

[Big D]

GGA 16 Bit Its good to have you back, sir.

 

[Briggs8417]

Reptile players don't place top 8 because of Reptile players. Why is it that other character specialists can do this but somehow with like Reptile, Smoke and a few others it's impossible, they're not viable and the bad MU are automatic loses?

My last major was SCR. My path to top 8 was Kabal, Kitana, Reptile, Kabal. Who's going to tell me a dedicated Reptile couldn't make it through that? Even if conservative MUs for Kitana it was two bad MU, a mirror and an even MU. If I was a Reptile player I'd have been..two bad MU, a mirror and an even MU.

If you're a top elite level player you should be able to overcome most opponents regardless of the MU. Then you MIGHT have to overcome maybe one if at most two bad MU against a player of your caliber.

I remember a time when Showtime and MIT kept talking about how this character was really good and could make top 8's. Then they moved on to better characters because they like winning. Yes they still play the character, but he needs help. Reptile isn't doing anything on his own at major tournies, another character has to back him up. There are too many characters that are played at tournies that give Reptile huge problems.

 

[16 Bit]

Will MIT take the Reptile challenge? Play all Reptile at NCR.

 

[coolwhip]

MITDJT

 

[CrazyBread]

Sounds like some really free players... Insuperable come to VA/MD and train like a king with the likes of PTH!

Also what school and for what? Congrats

SoFlo 4 Life. Stay free my nikka...

 

[THTB]

Ugh.

Reptile players, stop acting like patience blows up Reptile hard. Start thinking the fuck outside the box instead of trying to go super cookie-cutter. And stop worrying about goddamn dash being blocked. The fact that people are sitting there trying to block dash gives you everything you need. Just...go outside the goddamn box lmao. Idc if you're standing there blocking. I'll just do something totally fucking stupid that you won't block.

Playing Reptile takes someone who isn't willing to think conventionally, because his playstyle is nowhere near conventional. When you stop worrying about how he sucks at playing the standard game, you'll actually start doing shit with the character.

 

[Phosferrax]

Ugh.

Reptile players, stop acting like patience blows up Reptile hard. Start thinking the fuck outside the box instead of trying to go super cookie-cutter. And stop worrying about goddamn dash being blocked. The fact that people are sitting there trying to block dash gives you everything you need. Just...go outside the goddamn box lmao. Idc if you're standing there blocking. I'll just do something totally fucking stupid that you won't block.

Playing Reptile takes someone who isn't willing to think conventionally, because his playstyle is nowhere near conventional. When you stop worrying about how he sucks at playing the standard game, you'll actually start doing shit with the character.

Like what though? People seem to have this vague conception that he can do loads of shit, but no one is saying anything with any substance.

 

[THTB]

Like what though? People seem to have this vague conception that he can do loads of shit, but no one is saying anything with any substance.

He has plenty to do. Your opponent sitting there just waiting on dash is your opportunity to do dumb shit. Just walk, back out and jump kick when they don't really expect it, forceball, random acid hand (the damn move has reach like no other), so on.

Nobody is going to react 100% to everything. Stop treating them like they will. This is what I mean think outside the box.

 

[zaf]

Ugh.

Reptile players, stop acting like patience blows up Reptile hard. Start thinking the fuck outside the box instead of trying to go super cookie-cutter. And stop worrying about goddamn dash being blocked. The fact that people are sitting there trying to block dash gives you everything you need. Just...go outside the goddamn box lmao. Idc if you're standing there blocking. I'll just do something totally fucking stupid that you won't block.

Playing Reptile takes someone who isn't willing to think conventionally, because his playstyle is nowhere near conventional. When you stop worrying about how he sucks at playing the standard game, you'll actually start doing shit with the character.

I like seeing reptiles who know dash spacing perfectly. They are the ones who dash and start a blockstring immediately.

Like cossner. He knows his dash spacing like crazy.

 

[Euphoric]

I heard this somewhere, I think I read it, or w/e, forgot who posted/said it, but a big part of fighting games is figuring out how much BS you can get away with against your opponent and don't assume your opponent knows how to properly play. Lol.

I think PL said it in his interview.

 

[THTB]

I like seeing reptiles who know dash spacing perfectly. They are the ones who dash and start a blockstring immediately.

Like cossner. He knows his dash spacing like crazy.

Of course, know your shit like spacing...buuuuuut you're not always going to be able to do that. In which case, you'll have to think of something else to do.

 

[THTB]

I heard this somewhere, I think I read it, or w/e, forgot who posted/said it, but a big part of fighting games is figuring out how much BS you can get away with against you're opponent and don't assume your opponent knows how to properly play. Lol.

This.

 

[Phosferrax]

He has plenty to do. Your opponent sitting there just waiting on dash is your opportunity to do dumb shit. Just walk, back out and jump kick when they don't really expect it, forceball, random acid hand (the damn move has reach like no other), so on.

Nobody is going to react 100% to everything. Stop treating them like they will. This is what I mean think outside the box.

So you're suggestion to the Reptile community in order to level up is to 'do dumb shit'?

 

[zaf]

Of course, know your shit like spacing...buuuuuut you're not always going to be able to do that. In which case, you'll have to think of something else to do.

It makes a lot of sense what you are saying Tay. People are blocking like mad against reptile. Use that to literally do whatever you want. Trick them to hold block, and punish them for it. Reminds me of ermac and fear of tkp.

 

[THTB]

So you're suggestion to the Reptile community in order to level up is to 'do dumb shit'?

More or less. Things no one really expects you to do. "I'm in deadzone, he won't be able to do anything!" Reptile walks forward and grabs. "Okay, maybe sitting here isn't the best..."

 

[zaf]

I heard this somewhere, I think I read it, or w/e, forgot who posted/said it, but a big part of fighting games is figuring out how much BS you can get away with against you're opponent and don't assume your opponent knows how to properly play. Lol.
I think PL said it in his interview.

This.

reminds me of when i played tyrant at nec. I noticed he doesn't tech every time he hit the ground. I purposely drop my combo and charge the unblockable. I know its tyrant and he is a gdlk player, but every player has a weakness some where that just needs to be scouted. When i play with j360, he techs every damn time he hits the ground, so this never works on him at all. Winning at fighting games really comes down to taking advantage of the other player.