The RoboCop Thread

[Zviko]

The only issue I can see with the cancels is that the gunshot is a high, so unless the cancels jail, the opponent can always low poke to beat the cancel.

Depends on how fast the cancel is/how easy it is to react to it. It could be good in the string that has a KB on kounter hit. I believe that string also ends with an overhead so you have to stand up.

 

[M2Dave]

His default kit isn't bad for a zoner either so you get some zoning in all variations really. This is why I think V1 might be the go to variation. It could be a mixture of zoning and pretty strong pressure, depending on how good those pistols cancels are and how grenade setups work. Does it go away if he gets hit like Terminators etc...

Another big question is whether the command throw is high or mid.

Even if V1 is not necessarily the best variation, it could have utility in match ups in which zoning has limited use.

 

[Deleted member 5032]

One more thing to keep in mind about his cancel is that unlike other characters with cancels, he can choose to move backwards with his. Depending on the pushback on his strings, this could make for very easy whiff punishing, or used to create space between heavy pressure characters.

 

[ScreamQueen]

I'mma be furious if I find out any of you haven't done an out-loud RoboCop impression at some point this past month.

 

[Deleted member 5032]

I'mma be furious if I found out any of you haven't done an out-loud RoboCop impression at some point this past month.

I haven't, but I did shoot a criminal in the dick, so I think I'm good.

 

[M2Dave]

Some notes after testing Robocop for about half an hour.

• d+3 is similar to Noob's and Nightwolf's d+3 but more unsafe on block at -10
• d+4 has excellent range
• 1,2,3 is safe but has a gap on the last hit
• 1,2,1 has no gap but is -8 on block
• f+3 is a 10 frame mid attack with short range
• f+2 starts up in 13 frames
• f+2,1,2 has a gap on the last hit
• the command grab hits mid and has a counter or punish to a roll escape krushing blow requirement
• the command grab starts up in 11 frames and has about the same range as Kollector's
• all gun cancels in V1 seem very negative on block
• low gunshot is -18 on block but fairly safe when spaced properly
• low gunshot already seems like one of the best projectiles in the game for reasons that I will discuss at a later time
• flamethrower provides sufficient advantage on hit to dash forward and force mix ups but is unsafe on block
• shield has a 9 frame start up and is only in V2 and V3
• rifle is only in V1 and V3

If you are at work and need something tested, please let me know.

 

[DixieFlatline78]

Mid Command Throw

Maybe I'm a Robocop main after all

 

[Deleted member 5032]

Some notes after testing Robocop for about half an hour.

• d+3 is similar to Noob's and Nightwolf's d+3 but more unsafe on block at -10
• d+4 has excellent range
• 1,2,3 is safe but has a gap on the last hit
• 1,2,1 has no gap but is -8 on block
• f+3 is a 10 frame mid attack with short range
• f+2 starts up in 13 frames
• f+2,1,2 has a gap on the last hit
• the command grab hits mid and has a counter or punish to a roll escape krushing blow requirement
• the command grab starts up in 11 frames and has about the same range as Kollector's
• all gun cancels in V1 seem very negative on block
• low gunshot is -18 on block but fairly safe when spaced properly
• low gunshot already seems like one of the best projectiles in the game for reasons that I will discuss at a later time
• flamethrower provides sufficient advantage on hit to dash forward and force mix ups but is unsafe on block
• shield has a 9 frame start up and is only in V2 and V3
• rifle is only in V1 and V3

If you are at work and need something tested, please let me know.

His standing 4 is +6 on block. I can get a semi-safe cancel out of that, but that's the only one I've found so far.

 

[Deleted member 5032]

Oh wow, his flamethrower isn't a restand, it just leaves them standing if you haven't launched, same as his auto-9.

Lol, and his amp shoulder mines in v2 whiff in the corner, even when using the short-ranged version, so no corner setups with those.

 

[jokey77]

F42, B2, F32-ender
Anyone got more damage than this?
239 with commandgrab

B2, J, F32-ender does slightly more.
263 with commandgrab

 

[Deleted member 5032]

Umm, his gas grenade goes away if it hits the opponent, whether they block it or are hit by it. Can't find any corner setups with it. All it does is lead to a +4 restand.

 

[Deleted member 5032]

F42, B2, F32-ender
Anyone got more damage than this?
239 with commandgrab

B2, J, F32-ender does slightly more.
263 with commandgrab

Not yet. His damage output seems to be overall pretty underwhelming.

Still working on optimizing, but in the corner I can get 25% into a +4 restand with f42-4~db1-12~db2.amp

 

[jokey77]

Umm, his gas grenade goes away if it hits the opponent, whether they block it or are hit by it. Can't find any corner setups with it. All it does is lead to a +4 restand.

Also If you throw, this might be the main purpose!

 

[Oskulock]

No meter 235 in v2 with;
b2, j.2, f32, bf2

 

[Deleted member 5032]

v1 meterless corner 24%: f42-f42-b2-121~fbd2

 

[Eldriken]

I don't think nearly 25% without bar is that bad. Land it a few times on top of any additional chip damage, stray hits, pokes, throws, etc and it all adds up.

Remember that people lost against Doomsday doing 19% MB Venoms and 12% Earth Shakes on top of chip damage and throws.

Provided @RoboCop doesn't turn out to be a total crapper of a character, his damage output might be just fine.

 

[Oskulock]

At least his zoning seems pretty legit, low auto-9 and rocket seem quite good. I'm pretty alright with the damage as he does have the ability to combo the enemy into the other side of the screen. I just wish even one of the KB's had launch properties.

 

[DixieFlatline78]

I'm much happier with his damage being low. He has good KBs and hes supposed to deal damage with his projectiles. If he had really strong zoning AND could delete you if you got in, thatd be a little much.

 

[jokey77]

His enders provide plenty of plusframes, so damage usually won't end after the combo. Also his bf2-tripleshots seem like a great way to check the opponent. I don't think that damage is his problem. At least not in Var 1.

Var 2 has lowshot though, which might be the most wonderful zoningtool in the game.

 

[xKMMx]

calling it: One of his win poses is going to have the opponent lying on the ground and the camera will pan over to a random TV with the infamous:

"I'll buy that for a dollar!"

Dude if that was the case or is the case I'll play the character just for that

 

[Deleted member 5032]

The mid command grab combined with his insane forward dash is nuts. You can really add a lot of range to all of your attacks, making it a significant guess for your opponent.

 

[Deleted member 5032]

He can tick throw off d1 and d3, but the fdb input actually makes it harder to do than the standard dbf input, since you have to press down, release down, then press fdb. The d3 tick is pretty easy to do.

 

[Deleted member 5032]

Wow, just noticed the v2 amplified missile gains an insane amount of block advangage. Point blank it's +7 on block. Full screen it's +24.

 

[Hara-Killer]

Maybe I'm a Robocop main after all

as a Kano Main i SHOUT !!!!!!!!!!!! CRIME DOES NOT PAY

ROBO IS MY TEQUILA MAIN

 

[Deleted member 5032]

It's looking like v1 is where it's at. Since none of his safe strings launch, you can cancel just about anything into auto-9 to remain +9 right next to them, opening up mixups with his mid command grab. Everything is pretty comfirmable and he can cancel into retreating auto-9 on block. Some low attacks can catch him if done quickly enough, though f4~db1 seems to avoid most of them and still kombos for 10% on hit, leaving you +8 just outside sweep distance.