Combo List - Ferra/Torr The FerraTory - Laboratory of Combos [XL Update Pending]

[Blewdew]

While everyone is experimenting with d2 after ex low toss I found it hard to get consistently but at least in the corner you can get 50% off a s4 punish super easy without having execution problems

this combo is seriously super easy to do consistently. you don't have to do multiple d1's and no specific timing or placing is required to continue after d2. i dunno if anything better has been found already but that's what I stick with now.

with b121 as a starter you get 46% btw.

 

[Kamikaze_Highlander]

Swaggy and efficient, just the way we like it here.

 

[Kamikaze_Highlander]

We are bottom 5, middle 5, top 5, and until proven otherwise don't even exist in the game

Pretty sure NRS proved this when they said d1 was +2.

 

[Doombawkz]

Pretty sure NRS proved this when they said d1 was +2.

Actually if we are being honest... It actually was. At peak d.1 range it was in the area of +2 or so

 

[Kamikaze_Highlander]

So I kinda saw it on the main post but in case people miss it

b121 PnG rc f2 njp f3 1,1 4xxdbf1 for 41% meterless (44% with 4 starter) and guarantee one stack, or end with 4xxPnG for 33% (35% with 4) and guarantee two stacks.

 

[Trauma_and_Pain]

Vicious Corner NJP Starter:

NJP ~ D2 ~ (Run if needed) F2 ~ F3 ~ 4 xx BF4 = 34%
NJP ~ D2 ~ (Run if needed) F2 ~ 4 xx BF4 = 32% (easier)

• May not be optimal in Ruthless. Easier the further away you are and the later you NJP.

1 Bar Vicious/Ruthless Fullscreen ex Bowl Girl Starter:

ex BF2 ~ D2 ~ Run ~ F2 ~ F3 ~ 4 xx BF4 = 36%
ex BF2 ~ D2 ~ Run ~ F2 ~ 4 xx BF4 = 35% (easier)

• From about 2 steps closer than fullscreen.

 

[Evil Presence]

Hello. This is my first post on TYM. I've been a Quan Chi and Ermac main for many months now and for the past month I've been struggling to find another character that I would like to play. Before I started playing with F/T I didn't give the character any credit but myou views towards the character has changed tremendously once I tried them out.

Right now im trying to find the highest damaging combos that are reliable.

Can someone lead me to or tell me his best
Meterless and 1 bar midscreen
B121 punish
F2 combo
B2 combof
NJP combo
D1 or d3 Anti-air combo

Meterless and 1 bar corner
Punish
F2 combo
B2 combo
NJP combo
Crossover d1 or d3 Anti-air combo

 

[Trauma_and_Pain]

Hello. This is my first post on TYM. I've been a Quan Chi and Ermac main for many months now and for the past month I've been struggling to find another character that I would like to play. Before I started playing with F/T I didn't give the character any credit but myou views towards the character has changed tremendously once I tried them out.

Right now im trying to find the highest damaging combos that are reliable.

Can someone lead me to or tell me his best
Meterless and 1 bar midscreen
B121 punish
F2 combo
B2 combof
NJP combo
D1 or d3 Anti-air combo

Meterless and 1 bar corner
Punish
F2 combo
B2 combo
NJP combo
Crossover d1 or d3 Anti-air combo

Can you narrow this down to one variation? This would be a super long list if we're going down all 3 variations.

 

[Kamikaze_Highlander]

Hello. This is my first post on TYM. I've been a Quan Chi and Ermac main for many months now and for the past month I've been struggling to find another character that I would like to play. Before I started playing with F/T I didn't give the character any credit but myou views towards the character has changed tremendously once I tried them out.

Right now im trying to find the highest damaging combos that are reliable.

Can someone lead me to or tell me his best
Meterless and 1 bar midscreen
B121 punish
F2 combo
B2 combof
NJP combo
D1 or d3 Anti-air combo

Meterless and 1 bar corner
Punish
F2 combo
B2 combo
NJP combo
Crossover d1 or d3 Anti-air combo

can't give you all of them. But I'll talk about Ruthless if someone else wants to cover the other two. These combos won't be optimal, but they are reliable which is what you're looking for.

meterless - depends, do you have all three stacks? if not. b121xxPnG(dd1) rc f2 njp f3 4xxPng for mid 30s% (i think), and gives you enough advantage to get a third PnG out for free (great way to bait wakeups). if you have two or three stacks already then change the end to 4xxdbf1 for (base damage) 39% (you can do a 1,1 in between the f3 and 4 for an extra 2%, but its a tight link). Easiest 1 bar combo (imo) is b121xxPnG rc f2, f3, 2f4xxEXbf2, njp, b121xxdbf1 for 44%. There are a few more damaging ones but this one's the easiest for me. After two stacks almost any decent combo will hit the mid 30s to low 40s meterless so damage really isn't a concern after one of the three stack set ups.

you can do a lot off things off of b121. its +26 on hit meaning it guarantees a 50/50 (in R/V), so if you want to on hit you can move in a little bit and go for a 50/50, but in Ruthless you've got the PnG run cancels that help with hit confirming so the 50/50s aren't as beneficial as extending your combo+damage boost. The above combos are close to optimal and easy to land. But i encourage you to dig into it and see if you can come up wit your own, could be something we've never seen before!

If you're starting f2 with ferra then your options are a bit limited as our regular njp is too slow to catch them on the way over. f2, f3,11, 4xxdbf1 might be the best but i can't say for sure, there's not a whole lot of f2 in neutral in Ruthless. b2 seems to have gotten a damage nerf, but you can hit mid 30s with it; b232+4, run, f3, f2, 4xxdbf1 is somewhere near 32-35% If I'm mid screen its b232+4 run, f4, run, b121xxdbf1 as it has better corner carry than f3, but its only 27%.

If you haven't seen the pattern yet. NJP combo; njp, f3, f2, (11), 4xxdbf1. depending on how far away the njp hits you might want to switch f3 and f2.

as far as aa goes I keep it real simple as i hardly ever land aa's. d1, f2, f3, 4xxdbf1 is probably the easiest/best, but catching them with the f2 can be iffy. Usually I just go for d1 b121xxdbf1. If you ever want to switch sides but don't think you can land the f2 end with bf3.

 

[Evil Presence]

Oh sorry this is for Ruthless

 

[Evil Presence]

can't give you all of them. But I'll talk about Ruthless if someone else wants to cover the other two. These combos won't be optimal, but they are reliable which is what you're looking for.

meterless - depends, do you have all three stacks? if not. b121xxPnG(dd1) rc f2 njp f3 4xxPng for mid 30s% (i think), and gives you enough advantage to get a third PnG out for free (great way to bait wakeups). if you have two or three stacks already then change the end to 4xxdbf1 for (base damage) 39% (you can do a 1,1 in between the f3 and 4 for an extra 2%, but its a tight link). Easiest 1 bar combo (imo) is b121xxPnG rc f2, f3, 2f4xxEXbf2, njp, b121xxdbf1 for 44%. There are a few more damaging ones but this one's the easiest for me. After two stacks almost any decent combo will hit the mid 30s to low 40s meterless so damage really isn't a concern after one of the three stack set ups.

you can do a lot off things off of b121. its +26 on hit meaning it guarantees a 50/50 (in R/V), so if you want to on hit you can move in a little bit and go for a 50/50, but in Ruthless you've got the PnG run cancels that help with hit confirming so the 50/50s aren't as beneficial as extending your combo+damage boost. The above combos are close to optimal and easy to land. But i encourage you to dig into it and see if you can come up wit your own, could be something we've never seen before!

If you're starting f2 with ferra then your options are a bit limited as our regular njp is too slow to catch them on the way over. f2, f3,11, 4xxdbf1 might be the best but i can't say for sure, there's not a whole lot of f2 in neutral in Ruthless. b2 seems to have gotten a damage nerf, but you can hit mid 30s with it; b232+4, run, f3, f2, 4xxdbf1 is somewhere near 32-35% If I'm mid screen its b232+4 run, f4, run, b121xxdbf1 as it has better corner carry than f3, but its only 27%.

If you haven't seen the pattern yet. NJP combo; njp, f3, f2, (11), 4xxdbf1. depending on how far away the njp hits you might want to switch f3 and f2.

as far as aa goes I keep it real simple as i hardly ever land aa's. d1, f2, f3, 4xxdbf1 is probably the easiest/best, but catching them with the f2 can be iffy. Usually I just go for d1 b121xxdbf1. If you ever want to switch sides but don't think you can land the f2 end with bf3.

Thanks man!!!!

 

[Blewdew]

Hello. This is my first post on TYM. I've been a Quan Chi and Ermac main for many months now and for the past month I've been struggling to find another character that I would like to play. Before I started playing with F/T I didn't give the character any credit but myou views towards the character has changed tremendously once I tried them out.

Right now im trying to find the highest damaging combos that are reliable.

Can someone lead me to or tell me his best
Meterless and 1 bar midscreen
B121 punish
F2 combo
B2 combof
NJP combo
D1 or d3 Anti-air combo

Meterless and 1 bar corner
Punish
F2 combo
B2 combo
NJP combo
Crossover d1 or d3 Anti-air combo

midscreen:

punishes
meterless: b121pngcf2,njp,f3,4,dbf1 (39% or 42% with s4 as starter)
1 bar: b121pngcf2,f3,2f4 ex low toss,njp,b121 dbf1 (46% or 49% with s4)

f2
meterless: f2,f3,11,4 dbf1 (32%)
1 bar: f2,f3,2f4 ex low toss, njp, b121 dbf1(39%)
f2,f3,2f4 ex low toss,d2,f3 dbf1 (41%)

b2
meterless: b232+4,dash,f2,f3,4 dbf1 (31%)
1 bar: b232+4,f3,2f4 ex low toss, short run,f2,d2,f3 dbf1 (38%)

njp

meterless: njp,f3,f2,f3,4 dbf1 (33%)
1 bar: njp,f3,4 ex low toss. short run,f2,d2,f3 dbf1 (41%)

aa's

meterless: d3,f2,f3,4 dbf1 (30%)
1 bar: d3,4 ex low toss, short run,f2,d2,f3 dbf1 (39% on read you can do d3,f3,4 ex low toss for 42%)

corner:

punishes

meterless: b121,pngc,112+4,d3,d1d1d1d1d1,4 dbf1 (36% or 38% with s4)
1 bar: b121,pngc,112+4,d3,4 ex low toss,f2,d2,d1,4 dbf1 (46% or 50% with s4)

I usually don't use f2 in the corner except for this:

f2 ex oh toss,njp,f3,d1d1d1d1d1,4 dbf1 (34%)

B2

meterless: b232+4, njp,f3,d1d1d1, 4 dbf1 (31%)
1 bar: b232+4,njp,f3,4 ex low toss, f2,d2,4 dbf1 (40%)

njp

meterless. njp,f3,d1 x6,4 dbf1 (30%)
1 bar: njp,f3,4 ex low toss,f2,d2,4 dbf1 (41%)

aa's if they try to jump out

meterless: d3,f2,f3,d1d1d1,4 dbf1 (32%)
I never use meter in this case


these are my go to combos which I usually use and have great success with them. though there are lot of different ways to combo. you can tell that I love the d1 combos while a lot of people don't like doing them.

 

[Evil Presence]

midscreen:

punishes
meterless: b121pngcf2,njp,f3,4,dbf1 (39% or 42% with s4 as starter)
1 bar: b121pngcf2,f3,2f4 ex low toss,njp,b121 dbf1 (46% or 49% with s4)

f2
meterless: f2,f3,11,4 dbf1 (32%)
1 bar: f2,f3,2f4 ex low toss, njp, b121 dbf1(39%)
f2,f3,2f4 ex low toss,d2,f3 dbf1 (41%)

b2
meterless: b232+4,dash,f2,f3,4 dbf1 (31%)
1 bar: b232+4,f3,2f4 ex low toss, short run,f2,d2,f3 dbf1 (38%)

njp

meterless: njp,f3,f2,f3,4 dbf1 (33%)
1 bar: njp,f3,4 ex low toss. short run,f2,d2,f3 dbf1 (41%)

aa's

meterless: d3,f2,f3,4 dbf1 (30%)
1 bar: d3,4 ex low toss, short run,f2,d2,f3 dbf1 (39% on read you can do d3,f3,4 ex low toss for 42%)

corner:

punishes

meterless: b121,pngc,112+4,d3,d1d1d1d1d1,4 dbf1 (36% or 38% with s4)
1 bar: b121,pngc,112+4,d3,4 ex low toss,f2,d2,d1,4 dbf1 (46% or 50% with s4)

I usually don't use f2 in the corner except for this:

f2 ex oh toss,njp,f3,d1d1d1d1d1,4 dbf1 (34%)

B2

meterless: b232+4, njp,f3,d1d1d1, 4 dbf1 (31%)
1 bar: b232+4,njp,f3,4 ex low toss, f2,d2,4 dbf1 (40%)

njp

meterless. njp,f3,d1 x6,4 dbf1 (30%)
1 bar: njp,f3,4 ex low toss,f2,d2,4 dbf1 (41%)

aa's if they try to jump out

meterless: d3,f2,f3,d1d1d1,4 dbf1 (32%)
I never use meter in this case


these are my go to combos which I usually use and have great success with them. though there are lot of different ways to combo. you can tell that I love the d1 combos while a lot of people don't like doing them.

Thank you so much. I will go practice now. I will make the Ferra/Torr race proud.

 

[joeldm]

Two combos using Ex Torryuken

 

[Blewdew]

Two combos using Ex Torryuken

How consistent is the second one?

 

[joeldm]

The final part is difficult (d2 f3xxbb) .
You can change s4 to get easier

 

[dennycascade]

Hello. This is my first post on TYM. I've been a Quan Chi and Ermac main for many months now and for the past month I've been struggling to find another character that I would like to play. Before I started playing with F/T I didn't give the character any credit but myou views towards the character has changed tremendously once I tried them out.

Right now im trying to find the highest damaging combos that are reliable.

Can someone lead me to or tell me his best
Meterless and 1 bar midscreen
B121 punish
F2 combo
B2 combof
NJP combo
D1 or d3 Anti-air combo

Meterless and 1 bar corner
Punish
F2 combo
B2 combo
NJP combo
Crossover d1 or d3 Anti-air combo

Ruthless
Meterless midscreen
B121 PnG, f2, NJP, f3, 11, b121 command grab
F2 PnG, f2, NJP, f3, 11, b121 command grab
B232+4, run f3, f2, d2, f3 command grab
NJP, f3, f2, d2, f3 command grab
D1/d3, f2, d2, f3 command grab

1 bar midscreen
B121 PnG, f2, NJP, f3, s4 EX bf2, d3, b121 command grab
F2 PnG, f2, NJP, f3, s4 EX bf2, d3, b121 command grab
B232+4, run f2, s4 EX bf2, d2, f3 command grab
NJP, f2, s4 EX bf2, d2, f3 command grab

Meterless corner
B121 PnG, d2, d3, d3, d1 x5, s4 command grab
F2 PnG, d2, d3, d3, d1 x5, s4 command grab
B232+4 NJP, f3, d1 x3, s4 command grab
NJP, f3, d1 x7, s4 command grab

1 bar corner
B121 PnG, 112+4, d3, s4 EX bf2, run f2, d2, d1, s4 command grab
F2 PnG, 112+4, d3, s4 EX bf2, run f2, d2, d1, s4 command grab
B232+4, NJP, f3, s4 EX bf2, run f2, d2, s4 command grab
NJP, f3, s4 EX bf2, run f2, d2, s4 command grab

Lackey
Meterless midscreen
B121 bf3
2f4 roll, d3, f2, d2, f3 command grab
F2, f3, 2f4 roll, 2f4 command grab
B232+4, 2f4 roll, f2, d2, f3 command grab
NJP, f3, f2, 2f4 roll, d1 command grab

1 bar midscreen
B121 EX db2, walk back s4 roll, f2, d2, f3 command grab
F2, s4 EX db2, run 2f4 roll, d1 command grab
(Don't spend meter with other starters)

Meterless corner
B121 db2 or bf3 and corpse hop
2f4 roll, d3, f2, NJP, s4 command grab
112+4, d3, 2f4 command grab
42+4, d3, 2f4 roll, 2f4 roll
B232+4, 2f4 roll, f2, njp, s4 command grab
NJP, s4 roll, d3, f2, jump back 1, s4 command grab

1 bar corner
B121 EX db2, s4 roll, d3, f2, NJP, s4 command grab
F2 EX db2, s4 roll, d3, f2, NJP, s4 command grab (this combo is for breaking wakeups)

Some of these combos aren't max damage but they're the most consistent in my experience. Some of these are also HARD (especially lackey combos) but I assure you with practice you'll be able to get them down and that extra damage really pays off

 

[Kamikaze_Highlander]

How consistent is the second one?

I was trying these out and b12xxroll is quite a bit more consistent for me than (delay) 4xxroll. Both db2 and bf2 enders are only 1% less @joeldm

 

[Kamikaze_Highlander]

45% meterless boiz

 

[joeldm]

I suspected f3 d2 could work with Ruthless too. Very good!

 

[Blewdew]

45% meterless boiz

When I tried it the command grab whiffed for some reason after d1. Trying to get it to work somehow

 

[Blewdew]

so I just found something really cool and useful. after certain moves you can actually pngc into jip2 and link it into a combo. it works with s4,b12 and f2 but the link for b12 and f2 is kinda tight. HOWEVER s4pngc xx jip2 is super easy and consistent and it allows you to do BIG damage for a punisher. you can probably squeeze more damage out of it but that's what I found the last 20 minutes.

corner meterless 47%

corner 1 bar 52%

piss easy 45% midscreen

midscreen 1 bar 55% (does 81% with 3 stacks)

unfortunately ferra doesn't come back in time to do a second pngc it's really close though but then we'd have an infinite lol.

@Doombawkz
@Kamikaze_Highlander
@joeldm
@ChoseDeath
@Shade667
@cR Biohazard

 

[ChoseDeath]

so I just found something really cool and useful. after certain moves you can actually pngc into jip2 and link it into a combo. it works with s4,b12 and f2 but the link for b12 and f2 is kinda tight. HOWEVER s4pngc xx jip2 is super easy and consistent and it allows you to do BIG damage for a punisher. you can probably squeeze more damage out of it but that's what I found the last 20 minutes.

corner meterless 47%

corner 1 bar 52%

piss easy 45% midscreen

midscreen 1 bar 55% (does 81% with 3 stacks)

unfortunately ferra doesn't come back in time to do a second pngc it's really close though but then we'd have an infinite lol.

@Doombawkz
@Kamikaze_Highlander
@joeldm
@ChoseDeath
@Shade667
@cR Biohazard

I bow to your greatness sir.

 

[Kamikaze_Highlander]

When I tried it the command grab whiffed for some reason after d1. Trying to get it to work somehow

Yea it's a little tricky with the spacing, works best when the f2 connects at max range I think.

Holy shit dude that's amazing, can you do the jump in deep and force them to block and continue raking pressure?

 

[Blewdew]

Yea it's a little tricky with the spacing, works best when the f2 connects at max range I think.

Holy shit dude that's amazing, can you do the jump in deep and force them to block and continue raking pressure?

Do you mean to connect the jip 2 and wait and then block pressure or doing the jip2 late enough that it won't connect but they're forced to block? It definitely works with the first way your jip2 has a hitadvantage of 49 which is enough for ferra to come back and do b121 without leaving a gap