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Diego de Souza Costa

***The Soul Consuming Darkness***
playing Urien since s1 (was in Gold with Necalli), i don't think low fwd/st. fierce will get you any higher than Super Gold, same thing with Necalli st. Roundhouse, is good on the lower ranks, once i got there, people started to punish my dumb shit... kek
 
They better do something. With all the other fighting games coming out this year, SFV is looking kind of meh. The S2 patch was supposed to get rid of the top tier's BS but instead we just got a new set of top tiers with new BS.
Should have left top tiers as they were and buff low mid tiers like Capcom said they would. Also fix loading screens that still take ages.
Also for any Akuma players, f.HP is safe on block and also plus right? As in you can combo if it hits?
 
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FL Rushdown

Champion
Should have left top tiers as they were and buff low mid tiers like Capcom said they would. Also fix loading screens that still take ages.
Also for any Akuma players, f.HP is safe on block and also plus right? As in you can combo if it hits?
It's plus 1 on block so you can jab check every time. On regular hit you can combo into jab/lk xx tatsu combos. On counter hit you can combo into back heavy punch or st mk combos.
 

CrazyFingers

The Power of Lame Compels You
I think imma get back into this game with Vega. He's cool and better than Alex (I'll still definitely play Alex a bit but figured id try for Vega)
 
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FL Rushdown

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I meant fight monies :p
Yeah but seeing as all the other options for your fight money spending sprees are useless(they're not akuma, and are therefore incapable of using the raging demon while shouting isshun sengeki) you should buy him.

Trust me. If you parry a poke and punish someone with a demon you'll feel so godlike you won't even miss the money(just make sure you ignore the 3 rounds you lost fishing for that demon).
 

CrazyFingers

The Power of Lame Compels You
Yeah but seeing as all the other options for your fight money spending sprees are useless(they're not akuma, and are therefore incapable of using the raging demon while shouting isshun sengeki) you should buy him.

Trust me. If you parry a poke and punish someone with a demon you'll feel so godlike you won't even miss the money(just make sure you ignore the 3 rounds you lost fishing for that demon).
You make a good point xD
 

buyacushun

Normalize grab immunity.
They better do something. With all the other fighting games coming out this year, SFV is looking kind of meh. The S2 patch was supposed to get rid of the top tier's BS but instead we just got a new set of top tiers with new BS.
I don't think that's the right mentality. I definitely think Characters still NEED tuning on both ends of the tiers. But it isn't right to look at it like "new set of BS". Since there's always going to be a "top set of BS". Imo, if you can't say that about the game it probably isn't fun. I don't know of a fighter that isn't played and enjoyed that doesn't have some BS everyone always mentions (SF4 vortex, tekken mishima, Marvel everything, NRS something). I think capcom just needs to add more crazy.

@FL Rushdown you still trying to play? Was in survival.
 

FL Rushdown

Champion
I don't think that's the right mentality. I definitely think Characters still NEED tuning on both ends of the tiers. But it isn't right to look at it like "new set of BS". Since there's always going to be a "top set of BS". Imo, if you can't say that about the game it probably isn't fun. I don't know of a fighter that isn't played and enjoyed that doesn't have some BS everyone always mentions (SF4 vortex, tekken mishima, Marvel everything, NRS something). I think capcom just needs to add more crazy.

@FL Rushdown you still trying to play? Was in survival.
Only if you promise not to make any comebacks while I'm fishing for demons.
 

FL Rushdown

Champion
So yeah I was goofing off with demon setups in the lab today and I found out you can still Kara cancel to get the range boost as long as you use his v skill + kick to cancel, it's slight but very relevant. You can do an unjumpable demon from a range you normally can't hit from. So you can do things like jab jab into demon and hit them on block(you have to leave a gap after the second jab though it's an unreactable amount of frames). You can do it fast enough that the kick won't hit people stand blocking.

Fastest input I got for it is mk + 3p x 2 then the f, lk, hp. Could make a vid if anyone cares but that's unlikely since it's tech.
 

Rip Torn

ALL I HAVE IS THE GREEN.
I don't think that's the right mentality. I definitely think Characters still NEED tuning on both ends of the tiers. But it isn't right to look at it like "new set of BS". Since there's always going to be a "top set of BS". Imo, if you can't say that about the game it probably isn't fun. I don't know of a fighter that isn't played and enjoyed that doesn't have some BS everyone always mentions (SF4 vortex, tekken mishima, Marvel everything, NRS something). I think capcom just needs to add more crazy.

@FL Rushdown you still trying to play? Was in survival.
It's not really a mentality, it's just the truth. They took away a bunch of dumb stuff but then just gave other characters dumb stuff. It was a poor balance patch in that regard. Everybody just wants to play a more balanced neutral-heavy game.

I do enjoy the game to some extent, but I disagree with their balancing method at this time.
 

Johnny Based Cage

The Shangest of Tsungs
So yeah I was goofing off with demon setups in the lab today and I found out you can still Kara cancel to get the range boost as long as you use his v skill + kick to cancel, it's slight but very relevant. You can do an unjumpable demon from a range you normally can't hit from. So you can do things like jab jab into demon and hit them on block(you have to leave a gap after the second jab though it's an unreactable amount of frames). You can do it fast enough that the kick won't hit people stand blocking.

Fastest input I got for it is mk + 3p x 2 then the f, lk, hp. Could make a vid if anyone cares but that's unlikely since it's tech.

I appreciate the tech vids. I appreciate the input breakdowns too bc I never know when or how tf the demons are being input in the midst of all the shit being cancelled into them and whatnot. Even as a non Akuma player I think all the demon shit is dope though.
 

CrazyFingers

The Power of Lame Compels You
It's not really a mentality, it's just the truth. They took away a bunch of dumb stuff but then just gave other characters dumb stuff. It was a poor balance patch in that regard. Everybody just wants to play a more balanced neutral-heavy game.

I do enjoy the game to some extent, but I disagree with their balancing method at this time.
My disagreement with their balancing basically can summed up with two characters. Laura and Alex. One is an example of a character that didn't need a ton to be better, but got way too much (Urien can also get thrown into this category) and Alex arguably didn't need ANY nerfs and got hit harder than a good chunk of the cast. It feels like they don't have a good understanding of the power level of the non extremities. They handled most if not every top tier fine and handled a ton of the bottom tier in a good way. However the gray areas seemed to be where they struggled to balance. Just my two cents.
 

Johnny Based Cage

The Shangest of Tsungs
My disagreement with their balancing basically can summed up with two characters. Laura and Alex. One is an example of a character that didn't need a ton to be better, but got way too much (Urien can also get thrown into this category) and Alex arguably didn't need ANY nerfs and got hit harder than a good chunk of the cast. It feels like they don't have a good understanding of the power level of the non extremities. They handled most if not every top tier fine and handled a ton of the bottom tier in a good way. However the gray areas seemed to be where they struggled to balance. Just my two cents.
Alex is so buns right now I can't even. Totally unnecessary. He wasn't doing shit season 1 to begin with.