FL Rushdown
Champion
No. ex kept invincibility.Even on EX?
But you can't reliably dp a lot of the stuff you used to.
No. ex kept invincibility.Even on EX?
EX is invincible on frame 1Even on EX?
So how does this effect gief specifically on a EX spd knockdown to dash SPD wake up non ex dp? Will it beat all non ex dp or whiff due to air born state?EX is invincible on frame 1
Depends on the dp. Some have throw immunity some don't.So how does this effect gief specifically on a EX spd knockdown to dash SPD wake up non ex dp? Will it beat all non ex dp or whiff due to air born state?
sorry for the questions I just moved and have not had time to get on to practice at all in weeks.
Unless i am mistaken, some dps are throw invincible. You should be able to beat the ones that arent.So how does this effect gief specifically on a EX spd knockdown to dash SPD wake up non ex dp? Will it beat all non ex dp or whiff due to air born state?
sorry for the questions I just moved and have not had time to get on to practice at all in weeks.
GGs.GG's @FL Rushdown; sorry for cutting that so short but the longer I played the worse my hangover (and I) got lol.
still playing?GGs.
Thing is...the strongest characters in season 1 DIDN'T have a reversal that's the funny part. Nash,Chun-Li,Mika are arguably widely considered top 3 and none had a reversal like the shoto's. But like you said everyone has their opinion so it's cool.It's about more than raw damage numbers though. There are entire lists of setups and setplay stuff that auto loses to DP, it changes the way pressure works significantly.. watch an Alex s1 vs someone with a dp and someone without. They can usually combo in to CA as well, so they can lead to massive damage..
Again, it's not they are op in a vacuum, it's that the difference in the haves and have nots was pretty drastic, especially considering characters like Ibuki, who already had problems, had to burn a bar for the same thing a few characters got for free.. characters who were already very very strong. Maybe I'm missing someone but wasn't every DP character in the game considered to be extremely good? Ken, Ryu, Cammy, who am I missing?
I would have preferred everyone having an invincible reversal, and then leaving it the same (make the characters who were gifted on have to burn a bar) but people talk like they are gone completely, when they arent.. you can still use.thrm and they matter, you just have to spend a bar for huge advantages they give you.
I'm not.gonna keep ping ponging this back and forth, we all have our opinions, I just wanted to clarify mine some.
By making people think about their offense?It's about more than raw damage numbers though. There are entire lists of setups and setplay stuff that auto loses to DP, it changes the way pressure works significantly..
Thing is...the strongest characters in season 1 DIDN'T have a reversal that's the funny part. Nash,Chun-Li,Mika are arguably widely considered top 3 and none had a reversal like the shoto's. But like you said everyone has their opinion so it's cool.
The main issue I had with meterless DPs was that I didn't have one
By making people think about their offense?
There are also entire lists of setups and set play designed entirely to bait dps and punish them. There are also safe jump setups that cover all options so that if they do you block and if they don't you meaty.It's about more than raw damage numbers though. There are entire lists of setups and setplay stuff that auto loses to DP, it changes the way pressure works significantly.. watch an Alex s1 vs someone with a dp and someone without. They can usually combo in to CA as well, so they can lead to massive damage..
Again, it's not they are op in a vacuum, it's that the difference in the haves and have nots was pretty drastic, especially considering characters like Ibuki, who already had problems, had to burn a bar for the same thing a few characters got for free.. characters who were already very very strong. Maybe I'm missing someone but wasn't every DP character in the game considered to be extremely good? Ken, Ryu, Cammy, who am I missing?
I would have preferred everyone having an invincible reversal, and then leaving it the same (make the characters who were gifted on have to burn a bar) but people talk like they are gone completely, when they arent.. you can still use.thrm and they matter, you just have to spend a bar for huge advantages they give you.
I'm not.gonna keep ping ponging this back and forth, we all have our opinions, I just wanted to clarify mine some.