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so the normal ones have 0 invincibility now?

what else change? any character specific stuff? did cammy get hit at all?
Normal DP's still have invincibility but not on the first 2 frames I believe, mostly nerfed in wake ups, and even then some DP's will beat out anything I've found. But as for anti airing DP's are still invincible and should be 100% reliable.
 

FL Rushdown

Champion
v-reversal is when you hit all 3 attack buttons (kick or punch) while blocking and do a sort of block breaker right? (told you i havent played it much) and Hers was punishable? o.0


anyway, those buffs sound great :D
Yeah hers switches sides and has to be blocked as a cross up. It was very good and the only one that was punishable on block. No longer.
 

NaCl man

Welcome to Akihabara
does anyone get combos off them or nah?

TBH i love the fact that AA's are strong in this game, better than MKX where certain characters get to jump in for free.
Ive got no issue with good aas. But just mashing jab to aa is lame with characters like ryu and cammy. They dont need it.
 
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NaCl man

Welcome to Akihabara
Just so we are clear i wouldn't care about aa jabs if there was no cross under crap that followed. To use a dp as an aa takes spacing and timing and there is no mix up its a knock down. If they made aa jabs have more push back or knock down i would be fine with them
 

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
To spend bar on a move that can easily be anti aired it should have stayed plus.
I can see that. If its mindless to AA it should have been plus. If its extremely difficult to AA then it should be zero at worst IMO. It being plus and impossible to AA is a little much and I can see it being adjusted, I just think they over did it.

Yeah, I dont mind AA jabs, I mind the setup crap they lead to.
 

Rip Torn

ALL I HAVE IS THE GREEN.
Wait, so after vtrigger>blocked sweep, if he cancels into raging demon the opponent can't stop it? Jab? Jump?
I think they could jump but they are probably going to push a button since that's the natural reaction to blocking a sweep. You can also kara cancel his overhead into raging demon, btw.

I don't think jab or any button is going to work and it seems to eat super inputs.
 

FL Rushdown

Champion
I think they could jump but they are probably going to push a button since that's the natural reaction to blocking a sweep. You can also kara cancel his overhead into raging demon, btw.

I don't think jab or any button is going to work and it seems to eat super inputs.
The overhead pseudo Kara cancel is infinitely better though since ya know, it works lol. Kinda annoyed they removed the input shortcuts but hey.
 

FL Rushdown

Champion
i find the aa jab into setup and side switch awesome :p


anyways what are kara's again?
A kara(empty) cancel is canceling a move during its animation but before its active frames. Usually because you'd get the moves forward movement instantly. Usually used to make demons closer, change dp ranges, or make your throws have more range. In 5 you can kara cancel but don't get any of the movement benefits so it's kinda whatever. Still useful for demons so that you don't hit someone during the input though.
 

Rip Torn

ALL I HAVE IS THE GREEN.
The overhead pseudo Kara cancel is infinitely better though since ya know, it works lol. Kinda annoyed they removed the input shortcuts but hey.
This is a gimmick as I said. But it's a strong gimmick in the sense that there is almost no way to resist the temptation of punishing a sweep. The overhead kara cancel isn't even the same type of mix up. This is more of a bait.
 

FL Rushdown

Champion
This is a gimmick as I said. But it's a strong gimmick in the sense that there is almost no way to resist the temptation of punishing a sweep. The overhead kara cancel isn't even the same type of mix up. This is more of a bait.
Yeah but if it hits don't you blow a whole bar lol? i don't think you can reverse hit confirm a demon.
 

Rip Torn

ALL I HAVE IS THE GREEN.
Yeah but if it hits don't you blow a whole bar lol? i don't think you can reverse hit confirm a demon.
Well, there is a pretty good chance they will be in block mode after Sweep~VTrigger activation. This is also a legit block string sweep~vtrigger > sweep has no gap so they're kind of stuck in block stun.

As for weather or not this is confirmable on block? I think it is. You don't cancel the active frames, you cancel the recovery. It depends on how fast you are with raging demon inputs. You can probably buffer the raging demon and just not do the last input if the sweep hits.
 

FL Rushdown

Champion
I need frame data what's the cancel windo
Well, there is a pretty good chance they will be in block mode after Sweep~VTrigger activation. This is also a legit block string sweep~vtrigger > sweep has no gap so they're kind of stuck in block stun.

As for weather or not this is confirmable on block? I think it is. You don't cancel the active frames, you cancel the recovery. It depends on how fast you are with raging demon inputs. You can probably buffer the raging demon and just not do the last input if the sweep hits.
i thought the sweep into trigger activation wasn't part of the setup. That makes it worse. Why would you possibly waste a situation where you're plus and can pull off 400 dmg counter hit combos on this. Sry but I'm calling super Mario on this tech. Also only works vs ppl that mash buttons. I'm pretty sure anyone timing the punish would have their input eaten.
 

Rip Torn

ALL I HAVE IS THE GREEN.
I need frame data what's the cancel windo

i thought the sweep into trigger activation wasn't part of the setup. That makes it worse. Why would you possibly waste a situation where you're plus and can pull off 400 dmg counter hit combos on this. Sry but I'm calling super Mario on this tech. Also only works vs ppl that mash buttons. I'm pretty sure anyone timing the punish would have their input eaten.
Well, you have to be in v-trigger so I figured I would include it as part of the setup. You could also do st.HP into v-trigger into sweep. Doing raw sweep would be much harder to confirm, imo. I don't have any frame data for akuma so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

super mario

Mortal
what about using cr hk like walking back and forth moving out and in of range of your opponents best poke then using it i been getting alot of mileage out of this.
 
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FL Rushdown

Champion
what about using cr hk like walking back and forth moving out and in of range of your opponents best poke then using it i been getting alot of mileage out of this.
Dude seriously. Just straight up. I will help you if the answer is no, but are you just the biggest troll ever? Or extremely foreign? I feel like it's gotta be one of those 2 things. You write posts like key and peele write middle eastern stereotypes.