Smoke can still be beaten if he's permanently invisible. Kabal is more of a threat than Smoke is, even with permanent invisibility. All I got from your post is "i can't see smoke it's not fair all his mix-ups are hard to block now".
Also consitency doesn't determine what a glitch is. It doesn't matter if you're able to do Kabal's invincibility once during a blue moon or every time you touch your opponent. It was not intended to function that way to begin with, same with Kung Lao's enhanced teleport armor glitch.
I apologize if my last post was a little unorganized, I had a thought that I need to share and I failed at that. I'm gonna try again, and if this doesn't make sense, then I quit.
In regards to the other character glitches, I would love to go through the list and figure out which ones are actual glitches and proceed to ban them, I am not against banning the things that legitimately break the intended coding in such a way that the move presents uncontrollable, and unexpected results. We have not done this because there is no true governing body in the MK community. The closest we have is Storms accepted tournament list. But much like me, you are getting off topic. The question that you stated was about Smoke's glitch, and that should be the important thing for this thread.
Shake is supposed to parry projectiles and ex-shake is supposed to parry all mid's and highs. That is the function of the move. That is what it does 99.9% of the time. The fact that if you cancel it at the instant that your opponent hits you is a glitch in coding. Shake was never supposed to make you invisible. Shake was never supposed to lock your opponent in the air. That is what I was trying to say. No matter how hard you try you can not debate that those two statements are facts, and that it is an error that those consequences sometimes occur, and as such we should not change our stance on the legality of these programming errors.
All of your points from the original post fall under the same category in terms of why it should be un-banned. And that title is "it's hard to do in tournament". Now while I agree that it is a hard to do glitch, I will refer you to the history of mk9.
- The cyrax players once said that the resets were hard to do, and yet they are the bnb of cyrax today.
- The kabal players said he required a huge learning curve, and yet multiple top and middle players now have a pocket kabal that is dangerous.
- You yourself stated that 2-ndc was a just frame link and thus borderline impossible to execute in tournament play, and yet your midscreen bnb has 2-ndc in it and you have published videos of you 2-ndc'ing characters to death.
- xSmokex has claimed that this could happen accidentally, I however must disagree. I believe that the time he did it, it was an accident, but only for his mind. After finding, and abusing the glitch online, the motion for it was ingrained into his head. And whether he legitimately wanted it to come out or not, his hands took over and delivered the glitch in tournament play. That is proof that the glitch can be done in a high stakes tournament setting. Whether or not it's easy, it would if unbanned, become a very commonly reproduced event in smoke's game.
We need to remain consistent with our handling of the actual game glitches, because it really is a "slippery slope" in regards to which ones slide and which ones don't. As soon as we unban this glitch, there will be many more players requesting that their character's glitches be unbanned, which is what I feel has been your intent the entire time. You don't care about the smoke glitch, you care about the kabal glitch, which is why it sometimes feels that you aren't being open minded in this discussion, because you have already made up your mind that you will use all your influence to unban these glitches. I implore you, as someone who once (I have no clue if you still do) loved this game, do not continue to attempt to unban these glitches. I don't really think you understand all the potential ramifications.
As an aside:
I understand that this forum is for intelligent discussion, but that means you have to listen to reason. If you aren't going to be open minded, then just close this sub-forum down, because it'll become just another place where people can rile up those that actually care about the mechanics, and the future of this game.
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