Dead Kings Rise
LBSH, if the argument is "it should be banned because its broken", then the whole damn game should be banned.
Because I agree with his post, hence why I liked it. I don't argue with people who I agree with.
Thanks for discussing your opinion in a very depth manner and showing others why it needs to be banned and is too powerful in competitive play.
AmenYou're welcome.Actually, I was at work and didn't have time to specify specifics on why I don't like the idea of allowing a character to have such a glitch, but my answer should have sufficed enough. I'm simply in disagreement with you despite your key points, which you obviously took time to develop (and that's fine), but I'm someone who doesn't care for exploiting tactics that are not defined by the game's rules (No where is it stated that Smoke should be allowed permanent invisibility and the player be paralyzed if X=X, anywhere, period), especially if it's in the MLG Circuit.Now, I would say that this glitch should have more of a SOFT ban type deal. It really doesn't add to Smoke's gameplay because the odds of pulling it off are so slim anyways. You want to try this glitch? Go for it. In a tournament though, I'd prefer that the match gets reset if the glitch does occur and causes compromisable damage to the other player's chances of winning. It's just broken. You literally force the player to stand their with their thumbs up their ass, which is not what the developers intended when they gave ENH-Shake the properties it has.There's my piece on it. It caused a lot of controversy then, for some apparent reason. It'd be all the better to just keep this glitch as off the books and unallowed while MK is in the MLG Circuit.Afterwards? Use it all you want. I could care less at that point. I'm not going to argue though. Ban or no ban, my opinion on any glitch like that is not going to move.
that.Shang Tsung's EX Soul Steal Glitch is pretty practical, but it's not banned.
Are you seriously 15? I thought you were older than me when I met you and you're infinitely more articulate than 95% of the adults that post here.If i may...
The glitch is highly impractical and you'll never hit on purpose, with exception of a jump-in punch / kick. (Lots of frames before the attack comes out, so if you read it you have plenty of time to react) So that leaves one practical way to hit this glitch, and even then, the opponent could simply empty jump into a poke.
Arguing that input bug plays a legitimate role in this glitch being "broken" because it makes you unable to counter it is laughable >.> Seriously, you can D3, D4, any low, and half of the specials break it; input bug is easy to avoid if you understand it. The glitch is easily couterable, any person who tries to do this intentionally vs. high level players will simply burn their bar, leaving them with no meter to break or use resets, which is not something Smoke wants to do.
That being said, i don't think the glitch should be unbanned simply because of the random invisibility it grants. Having full-game invis negates footsies to purely reads and removes any and all reactional counters that the opponent might have normally. This is a truley severe disadvantage for the opponent. Unlike the reset where you use meter to give you a better shot at winning one round this glitch has the potential to effect all 3 rounds
If this glitch only allowed for the free combo, and did not grant invisibility, then it's just a cheap version of CSZ's parry that has a 28f startup and is inconsistent and it probably could remain. The glitch will still happen accidentally in tournament play because you're trying to whiff punish your opponents poke when they are attempting to beat your ex shake. This glitch was discovered accidentally, happened in my very first tournament, it will happen again.
If this does remain banned it should not result in a DQ of the game, instead the match should resume from where it left off. Since the opponent takes no damage Smoke can simply back off, and let the opponent fall to the floor, therefore not affecting the game at all. (Except Smoke loses a bar)
Because if it happens accidentally, which it does, you could be DQ'd which is totally unnacceptable. The glitch could remain banned, however Smoke would just have to let the opponent fall. Since this does no damage it doesn't heavily affect the match, with the exception of 14 seconds off of the clock, and a bar wasted for Smoke.If it's a huge waste of time then why unban it?
Completely dumb thread, wanting to unban something you think isn't worth using.
That's like buying ice cream for a diabetic waste of time.
xSMoKEx I wasn't using the input bug as an excuse to why you CAN'T counter it I'm just saying....it happens like we've all seen lolBecause if it happens accidentally, which it does, you could be DQ'd which is totally unnacceptable. The glitch could remain banned, however Smoke would just have to let the opponent fall. Since this does no damage it doesn't heavily affect the match, with the exception of 14 seconds off of the clock, and a bar wasted for Smoke.
It's not a "this is really apart of his game it shouldn't be banned" type of thing, but more of a "how can you ban something random, and give out a DQ" for me.
There is no way to make this "practical" it has a 28f minimum start up, you're never going to hit it between pressure strings, if it has a 28f gap why not just 21~sb and save a bar? lmao. That further extends your lifelead and builds you more meter rather than taking it away. It doesn't parry lows so you can't even catch those check-up D4's. The only thing you're going to ever hit on purpose is a jumping attack, because that is the only attack in the game that has that many frames and you can somewhat easily react to. Why you would want to do this glitch is mystery, considering you could just 2 AA again and save a bar.
The only real advantage here is the full game invis, like i said sure they can ban that. But banning something random is unfair tbqh.
You really think this game gets shit on by other FGCs? What about SFxT? What about MAHVEL BAYBEE? What about Skullgirls? What about P4A? Everyone hates the shit out of those games way more than MK9. People just don't give a fuck about MK rather than hating it...As retarded as damage resets are, you still have at least some control of your character, even if it's only a breaker.
Something that causes you to completely lose control of your character like this, regardless of how impractical it is to pull off, shouldn't be allowed in my opinion.
Game balance issues aside, this game gets shit on enough by the mainstream FGC for being broken. Something like this would be much worse in that regard.
I wouldn't lose any sleep over it being allowed, but that doesn't change my opinion about it.