Strategy "Shazam!" -- Captain Marvel General Discussion Thread

[HushoftheWind]

How bad is it that i pretty main Shazam but hardly ever visit the forums? I still do consistently good with him though; i love making people guess themselves on what to do on wake up.

 

[Cage Redfield]

posted a random setup involving resets after Back 3 in your BnBs. Pause and read the annotations so I don't look like an idiot. Hope this is useful for you guys.

 

[JoeX0rX]

after playing a solid Killer frost tonight i figure the MU numbers are 7-3/8-2 in favor of frost, and thats being generous...stupid game.

 

[Uber]

after playing a solid Killer frost tonight i figure the MU numbers are 7-3/8-2 in favor of frost, and thats being generous...stupid game.

How so? She doesnt zone that well. On wakeup, she only has one scary wakeup, which is punished by jump back j2.

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[Uber]

I absolutely love his d2 now. Its by far his best footsie tool now. Fast, safe, long range, good damage afterwards, tick throws on block. Who even needs his 22 now?

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[SaJa]

Was it known that Shazam can actually jump from a command grab MB ? Probably a glitch.

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

Was it known that Shazam can actually jump from a command grab MB ? Probably a glitch.

yeah it says it in the move list

 

[SaJa]

yeah it says it in the move list

So this is not a glitch ? Oo;

 

[Shawi]

So this is not a glitch ? Oo;

nope, look it up on the movelist. it clearly says you can cancel into a jump.

 

[SaJa]

Is it usefull then ?

 

[Cage Redfield]

Is it usefull then ?

if you have trait on, you can get like 52% with a jump cancel from HM MB with a really brain-dead easy combo, but otherwise, it's wise to stick to Back 3 after HM MB

 

[pogse]

posted a random setup involving resets after Back 3 in your BnBs. Pause and read the annotations so I don't look like an idiot. Hope this is useful for you guys.

I tested this out in the lab and you can get a total of 66%-ish damage if you have two meters, using f223 - d2 - forward a bit - f223 - HMmb - b3 - Cage reset - HM mb - 37% bnb.

and wakeup timing is very strict, kinda like GL reset.
Props to Cage.

 

[poofynamanama2]

posted a random setup involving resets after Back 3 in your BnBs. Pause and read the annotations so I don't look like an idiot. Hope this is useful for you guys.

omg this is godlike

 

[pogse]

Alternative oki options from HM-mb, inspired by Cage Redfield.

 

[Pterodactyl]

Is it me or is Shazam's cancel window online fucked? I finally started to figure out the character but if I get a tiny bit of lag online I won't be able to cancel half of my moves to get any good damage.


This isn't a strictly Shazam thing either, but he seems to be hit by this the hardest.

I wonder what made NRS give these characters such retarded cancel windows in this game.

 

[SuppaSapien3]

I absolutely love his d2 now. Its by far his best footsie tool now. Fast, safe, long range, good damage afterwards, tick throws on block. Who even needs his 22 now?

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Hey does anyone think spamming his d2 with his trait on is a good idea? Its plus 4 on block and with trait on doesnt he take like 5 percent per hit?

 

[Uber]

Hey does anyone think spamming his d2 with his trait on is a good idea? Its plus 4 on block and with trait on doesnt he take like 5 percent per hit?

Its not +4, its -4. It is spammable, but not consecutively as a frame trap


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[SuppaSapien3]

Its not +4, its -4. It is spammable, but not consecutively as a frame trap


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Lame alright thanks. My tv is kind of fuzzy sometimes i cant tell the different between a normal number and a negative.

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

it says -4 but I really think that it's even.

It is 12 frames though I think.

 

[Uber]

it says -4 but I really think that it's even.

It is 12 frames though I think.

Is it really even? I gotta test when i get home. I know for a fact that is i9, not i12

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[killa_solid]

Is it really even? I gotta test when i get home. I know for a fact that is i9, not i12

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Superman's super punishes it, so it's most likely -4 like it says.

 

[SaJa]

Shazam can double dash freely after his torpedo MB for crossup. Is it viable against all wakeup ?

And is the f22, trait, Hm safe on hit ?

 

[pogse]

Shazam can double dash freely after his torpedo MB for crossup. Is it viable against all wakeup ?

And is the f22, trait, Hm safe on hit ?

-you won't dash over if you did not use teleport first.

-nope, they can duck punish - you still at plus frames after trait though.

 

[SaJa]

-you won't dash over if you did not use teleport first.

Yes I can double dash for crossup after torpedo while my opponent is still on the ground. Oo;

 

[pogse]

Yes I can double dash for crossup after torpedo while my opponent is still on the ground. Oo;

WOW, pretty sure this wasn't possible before. Nice
just tested it out;
-nullify wake up input
-safe
-whiff punish some wakeup attacks
-cannot jump in after 2nd dash on wake up
-catch a walk back character (d2/f12/f22)