Sektors lack of fuel

[ryublaze]

whenever i fight jax i never want to give him the opportunity to do an ex dash punch, if you do a flamethrower don't be too aggressive after it because theyre just waiting for an opportunity to go through a projectile you throw.

If it's distance and spacing you want cant you end a combo with B1 instead to knock them full screen? a dash punch will miss you from that range.

Thank you. I've been trying to say this for a while now to some guy named SirAltairTheGr8, who kept blabbering and criticizing my videos because I ended a few combos with B1. Ending with B1 sets up for zoning. It may not be the best combo ender in some situations, but it is there as an option for those Sektor players who want to zone.

 

[SektorCyrax]

Thank you. I've been trying to say this for a while now to some guy named SirAltairTheGr8, who kept blabbering and criticizing my videos because I ended a few combos with B1. Ending with B1 sets up for zoning. It may not be the best combo ender in some situations, but it is there as an option for those Sektor players who want to zone.

yeah i mention the 11b1 or b1 ender in my stickied combo thread. accordingly you can also choose which side you want to be on mid combo by adding in a TU or if you dont want to change sides just end with b21, f4~upmissle, 21~flame or b1 for more zoning. Sektor has great combo finishers. Its not all about damage or ending in flamethrower as some will preach. I personally like ending with upmissle and/or getting a knockdown or pushing them back with the b1.

 

[PND_Ketchup]

this is probably my favorite thread ever. I love you guys!

 

[Altaire]

Thank you. I've been trying to say this for a while now to some guy named SirAltairTheGr8, who kept blabbering and criticizing my videos because I ended a few combos with B1. Ending with B1 sets up for zoning. It may not be the best combo ender in some situations, but it is there as an option for those Sektor players who want to zone.

Wow, are you really still butthurt about this? Months later? I stumble into a random topic, and sure enough, you're bitching about this.

Fun fact: Ending telepunches with 2 1 flamethrower leaves your opponent standing much further away than if you'd ended it with B2 flamethrower, for a difference of one or two percent. 1 2 flamethrower gives you the exact same result, though I find 2 1 flamethrower easier to time. There is no reason not to use this over B1 every time, especially since B1 is disadvantage on hit when used as an anti-air. I'm about 90% sure Smoke's wakeup telepunch could punish this every single time, just to name one example. Pretty much any teleport wakeup that comes out while you're still in recovery frames should be able to stop this. Of course, I haven't tested it thoroughly because there's never any point to using B1 as a combo ender, so feel free to test this one out for yourself.

Also, there's absolutely no defending two EX telepunches in one combo. Just sayin'.

 

[PND_Ketchup]

Wow, are you really still butthurt about this? Months later? I stumble into a random topic, and sure enough, you're bitching about this.

Fun fact: Ending telepunches with 2 1 flamethrower leaves your opponent standing much further away than if you'd ended it with B2 flamethrower, for a difference of one or two percent. 1 2 flamethrower gives you the exact same result, though I find 2 1 flamethrower easier to time. There is no reason not to use this over B1 every time, especially since B1 is disadvantage on hit when used as an anti-air. I'm about 90% sure Smoke's wakeup telepunch could punish this every single time, just to name one example. Pretty much any teleport wakeup that comes out while you're still in recovery frames should be able to stop this. Of course, I haven't tested it thoroughly because there's never any point to using B1 as a combo ender, so feel free to test this one out for yourself.

Also, there's absolutely no defending two EX telepunches in one combo. Just sayin'.

B1 works just fine in all situations unless jumped over at the exact time as the startup and is then punished with a crossover punch.

This is a constructive thread for sektor users to discuss tactics and tech. I'm aware the cyber sub zero thread is always littered in bickering but this is not the place for that and nobody is interested.

Thank you.

EDIT: and im sure nobody would defend using two ex teleport punches as it's obviously a stupid idea, i only ever do it by accident which is rare.

 

[SektorCyrax]

Wow, are you really still butthurt about this? Months later? I stumble into a random topic, and sure enough, you're bitching about this.

Fun fact: Ending telepunches with 2 1 flamethrower leaves your opponent standing much further away than if you'd ended it with B2 flamethrower, for a difference of one or two percent. 1 2 flamethrower gives you the exact same result, though I find 2 1 flamethrower easier to time. There is no reason not to use this over B1 every time, especially since B1 is disadvantage on hit when used as an anti-air. I'm about 90% sure Smoke's wakeup telepunch could punish this every single time, just to name one example. Pretty much any teleport wakeup that comes out while you're still in recovery frames should be able to stop this. Of course, I haven't tested it thoroughly because there's never any point to using B1 as a combo ender, so feel free to test this one out for yourself.

Also, there's absolutely no defending two EX telepunches in one combo. Just sayin'.

b1 as an anti-air isn't punishable by any attack. Whats the point of ending b1 as a combo ender? to get a far knockdown baiting a wake up. Preferably a teleport. In smokes case the b1 is useful if the smoke player thinks he can punish b1 on hit with the teleport then sektor blocks the telepunch and gets a combo. If they dont decide to wake up you can counterzone their projectile/teleport with an iTU or start your missle barrage if they are going to turtle.

 

[PPJ]

sorry to get off topic but two things:

does anyone know the the frames on a blocked 2,1,4? It actually seems to be PLUS on block.. maybe like +1

likewise, a blocked f+4,3 leaves you at about 0 so since sektor has a 6 frame jab you can either d+1 for a frame trap, b+3,4 or 1,2,b+1 for the full juggle. There's many more options you can do but these are just some to consider. However if your opponent has a fast punish like kung spin, its just best to block in this case.
HOWEVER, if someone crouch blocks the f+4, the 3 will make sektor go to the other side.. but it seems like both you and your opponent recover at about the same time so you're safe.

EDIT: another thing.. imo Sektor's X-ray is pretty underrated, it has some neat uses for different matchups which I'll explain later

 

[ryublaze]

Wow, are you really still butthurt about this? Months later? I stumble into a random topic, and sure enough, you're bitching about this.

Fun fact: Ending telepunches with 2 1 flamethrower leaves your opponent standing much further away than if you'd ended it with B2 flamethrower, for a difference of one or two percent. 1 2 flamethrower gives you the exact same result, though I find 2 1 flamethrower easier to time. There is no reason not to use this over B1 every time, especially since B1 is disadvantage on hit when used as an anti-air. I'm about 90% sure Smoke's wakeup telepunch could punish this every single time, just to name one example. Pretty much any teleport wakeup that comes out while you're still in recovery frames should be able to stop this. Of course, I haven't tested it thoroughly because there's never any point to using B1 as a combo ender, so feel free to test this one out for yourself.

Also, there's absolutely no defending two EX telepunches in one combo. Just sayin'.

1. I wasn't "bitching" at all. I thanked Ketchup for what he said, and brought your name up to show why.

2. Ketchup and SektorCyrax said it right. I said it works in some situations. I haven't tested it with Smoke's wake-up, but against those that don't have teleports B1 is there as an option. In fact, I think it might be better to resort to zoning against non-teleporters.

3. Of course you shouldn't end with a 2nd TU. I said a thousand times already that the video was meant to show almost all combo possibilities Sektor can do.

Please stop before the mods have to come here again. :/

 

[FatalTragedy]

My favorite pastime as of late is instant telecutting into a smoke bomb. I like to think I'm taking the scenic route.

 

[Altaire]

1. I wasn't "bitching" at all. I thanked Ketchup for what he said, and brought your name up to show why.

2. Ketchup and SektorCyrax said it right. I said it works in some situations. I haven't tested it with Smoke's wake-up, but against those that don't have teleports B1 is there as an option. In fact, I think it might be better to resort to zoning against non-teleporters.

3. Of course you shouldn't end with a 2nd TU. I said a thousand times already that the video was meant to show almost all combo possibilities Sektor can do.

Please stop before the mods have to come here again. :/

Yeah, you'd just hate for that to happen, wouldn't you? Considering how often you paraded around and gloated about it the last time you got a mod to lecture me (oooh, this is an accomplishment), I'll bet you've PMed every mod on the site by now, twice.

Also, I find it funny how you're just now saying you threw in the two EX telepunches in one combo for shits and giggles, because last time I addressed it, you justified by saying it "sets up for zoning". You also told me that none of your tech could've been ripped from TYM because you "didn't go to TYM", when I later found out you'd been here for months. I guess integrity just isn't your strongpoint.

I'm not going to argue about this, because I agree with Ketchup's point; this is the last I'm going to speak of this, and likely the last that I'll even post in this thread. I have no intention of carrying this on, I just wanted to demonstrate what a petty human being you really are. I've quite honestly lost count of the amount of times I've walked into a thread and found you bitching about me (that's exactly what it is; don't even try to pass it off as anything else), 100% completely unprovoked, and I'm more than a little tired of it. I don't like you, and you don't like me. We've established this. It goes without saying. You don't see me whining about you every time I post, yet here you are, doing it for the hundredth time. I got moderated for quoting someone's censor bypass on another site (I honestly hadn't even noticed that there was a censor bypass in his message; it was just an oversight on my part), and you said something to the effect of "LOL I'M NOT SURPRISED", and started parading around about that, too. Just when I think you've hit rock bottom, you make it painfully evident that your childishness knows no bounds.

Grow the hell up. There's no need for this petty bullshit from you.

 

[PND_Ketchup]

Yeah, you'd just hate for that to happen, wouldn't you? Considering how often you paraded around and gloated about it the last time you got a mod to lecture me (oooh, this is an accomplishment), I'll bet you've PMed every mod on the site by now, twice.

Also, I find it funny how you're just now saying you threw in the two EX telepunches in one combo for shits and giggles, because last time I addressed it, you justified by saying it "sets up for zoning". You also told me that none of your tech could've been ripped from TYM because you "didn't go to TYM", when I later found out you'd been here for months. I guess integrity just isn't your strongpoint.

I'm not going to argue about this, because I agree with Ketchup's point; this is the last I'm going to speak of this, and likely the last that I'll even post in this thread. I have no intention of carrying this on, I just wanted to demonstrate what a petty human being you really are. I've quite honestly lost count of the amount of times I've walked into a thread and found you bitching about me (that's exactly what it is; don't even try to pass it off as anything else), 100% completely unprovoked, and I'm more than a little tired of it. I don't like you, and you don't like me. We've established this. It goes without saying. You don't see me whining about you every time I post, yet here you are, doing it for the hundredth time. I got moderated for quoting someone's censor bypass on another site (I honestly hadn't even noticed that there was a censor bypass in his message; it was just an oversight on my part), and you said something to the effect of "LOL I'M NOT SURPRISED", and started parading around about that, too. Just when I think you've hit rock bottom, you make it painfully evident that your childishness knows no bounds.

Grow the hell up. There's no need for this petty bullshit from you.

If you haven't got anything productive to say than don't say anything. Redraptor seems fine to me and if you're looking for an argument take it to the pm's.

As stated before this is NOT the place to talk down to other users, cut it out.

 

[ryublaze]

Yeah, you'd just hate for that to happen, wouldn't you? Considering how often you paraded around and gloated about it the last time you got a mod to lecture me (oooh, this is an accomplishment), I'll bet you've PMed every mod on the site by now, twice.

Also, I find it funny how you're just now saying you threw in the two EX telepunches in one combo for shits and giggles, because last time I addressed it, you justified by saying it "sets up for zoning". You also told me that none of your tech could've been ripped from TYM because you "didn't go to TYM", when I later found out you'd been here for months. I guess integrity just isn't your strongpoint.

I'm not going to argue about this, because I agree with Ketchup's point; this is the last I'm going to speak of this, and likely the last that I'll even post in this thread. I have no intention of carrying this on, I just wanted to demonstrate what a petty human being you really are. I've quite honestly lost count of the amount of times I've walked into a thread and found you bitching about me (that's exactly what it is; don't even try to pass it off as anything else), 100% completely unprovoked, and I'm more than a little tired of it. I don't like you, and you don't like me. We've established this. It goes without saying. You don't see me whining about you every time I post, yet here you are, doing it for the hundredth time. I got moderated for quoting someone's censor bypass on another site (I honestly hadn't even noticed that there was a censor bypass in his message; it was just an oversight on my part), and you said something to the effect of "LOL I'M NOT SURPRISED", and started parading around about that, too. Just when I think you've hit rock bottom, you make it painfully evident that your childishness knows no bounds.

Grow the hell up. There's no need for this petty bullshit from you.

and yet again, you're wrong.

- I never said it was an accomplishment. You brought it upon yourself.
- I didn't PM any mod. In fact, I got a PM from another user who feels the same way I feel about you.
- Two EX TUs does set up for zoning, and you can't deny that. I've told you countless times that it's just a possibility for a combo.
- I joined TYM after I said that. How about you read timestamps next time?
- Like I said, I thanked Ketchup. I didn't "whine". You get salty at the tiniest things.
- If you got moderated, then it's your fault.
- I find it funny that the one telling me to grow up is someone who constantly bashes my videos and starts an argument with anyone he doesn't like.

That being said, I'm just defending myself and my work. I hope I don't see you around here again, Saltair.

EDIT: I want to get back to Sektor discussion too. I just got the patch and Sektor's better than ever.

 

[PPJ]

ex flamethrower is kinda useless imo... It should either have armor on startup frames, be safer on block, or slightly increased range

 

[PND_Ketchup]

ex flamethrower is kinda useless imo... It should either have armor on startup frames, be safer on block, or slightly increased range

it has upper body invincibility on wakeup, but thats it lol

 

[Playpal]

Not sure if anyone's mentioned this, but post patch sektor's xray can (still?) be snuffed out at full screen projectile trade.

 

[SektorCyrax]

im pretty sure exflamethrower is more unsafe on block and whiff then the regular flamethrower. I find that it can be one of the most useless ex moves in the game.

 

[CitizenSnips]

Just came in here to say that I've started using Sektor and am having a great time using him. Probably will replace Mileena/CSZ as my alt because Sektor just looks too bad-ass and is fun to play.

 

[SektorCyrax]

Just came in here to say that I've started using Sektor and am having a great time using him. Probably will replace Mileena/CSZ as my alt because Sektor just looks too bad-ass and is fun to play.

yeah theres always great sektor tech being found by our community. He is a very rewarding character with medium risk. A very good alternative to reptile. I sub reptile and have been having good success with playing both of them to contrast their playe styles. Similar pressure zoning with the exsfb/homing missles. A great medium range 'checking' tool (flamthrower/elbowdash). Sektor is faster then reptile when it comes to normal and can punish almost anything in the game with his 12b1 launcher. Pm me or any of these guys i mentioned in the first post (cratehn too, i didnt forget you buddy!) if you have any specific questions for sektor. Or you can always post here. Dont be afraid to ask dumb questions either, we dont judge.

 

[PND_Ketchup]

yeah sektors ex flame is more punishable than the regular one, easily never worth using :')

And to snips, welcome to the club shall help if you have any questions as sektorcyrax mentioned!

 

[CitizenSnips]

Well I haven't been using him for too long so right now it's just getting used to his style but I might as well ask some questions lol.

1. What strings should I pressure with besides his 12B1? When I'm upclose I realize that I don't really know what to do besides try to get that string in or throw them lol

2. Who are his worst matchups?

Thanks, will probably be frequenting this forum from now on

 

[ryublaze]

Well I haven't been using him for too long so right now it's just getting used to his style but I might as well ask some questions lol.

1. What strings should I pressure with besides his 12B1? When I'm upclose I realize that I don't really know what to do besides try to get that string in or throw them lol

2. Who are his worst matchups?

Thanks, will probably be frequenting this forum from now on

Hey Snips.

I usually pressure with 12 or 21. 12 can lead into 122 if opponent is ducking. 21 can lead into a Teleport Uppercut and to his highest damaging combos (2,1,tu,b2,1,b3,4,extu,b2,flame). You can also do 214. Since there is a pause before the 4, sometimes the opponent will let go of block but I don't really use 214 much. 124 is almost the same thing and it got fixed in the patch. You can also use 11 but you can't do teleport combos off of it.

There is a matchups thread stickied at the top.

 

[PND_Ketchup]

Hey Snips.

I usually pressure with 12 or 21. 12 can lead into 122 if opponent is ducking. 21 can lead into a Teleport Uppercut and to his highest damaging combos (2,1,tu,b2,1,b3,4,extu,b2,flame). You can also do 214. Since there is a pause before the 4, sometimes the opponent will let go of block but I don't really use 214 much. 124 is almost the same thing and it got fixed in the patch. You can also use 11 but you can't do teleport combos off of it.

There is a matchups thread stickied at the top.

about that 2,1,TU,B2,1,B3,4,EXTU thing. A b&b i've been using since release does exactly the same amount of damage and is easier to do.

1,2,B1,F4,4,TU,JK,EXTU,B2,1 is exactly the same amount of damage, i think going for the B2,1,B3,4 is only useful off no meter combos, the low starter OR the regular telepunch. but doing it offa snatdning combos is unnecessarily difficult

 

[ryublaze]

about that 2,1,TU,B2,1,B3,4,EXTU thing. A b&b i've been using since release does exactly the same amount of damage and is easier to do.

1,2,B1,F4,4,TU,JK,EXTU,B2,1 is exactly the same amount of damage, i think going for the B2,1,B3,4 is only useful off no meter combos, the low starter OR the regular telepunch. but doing it offa snatdning combos is unnecessarily difficult

Oh I didn't know it did the same damage. I always thought b2,1,b3,4 added more damage. Then I guess JK would be better after 2,1,tu.

 

[Robotic]

about that 2,1,TU,B2,1,B3,4,EXTU thing. A b&b i've been using since release does exactly the same amount of damage and is easier to do.

1,2,B1,F4,4,TU,JK,EXTU,B2,1 is exactly the same amount of damage, i think going for the B2,1,B3,4 is only useful off no meter combos, the low starter OR the regular telepunch. but doing it offa snatdning combos is unnecessarily difficult

About that 1,2,B1,F4,4,TU,JK,EXTU,B2,1 combo...

My go-to combo is 12b1, f44, TU, B34, EXTU, B2 and end with whatever is appropriate (1, torch, upmissile). I don't remember, but doesn't this combo do the same amount of damage as those 2?

 

[Bildslash]

How do you feel about block dashing guys? How does it affect the :en Up Missile setup for the 50/50 or throw?

I think now that everyone is forced to do it, Sektor lost part of his edge, because block dashing helps the whole roster move faster.