Ok no arguing anymore. I am against the OS anyway so I am not independent.No the OS is still very good. But since you aren’t meaty’ing they can easily neutral jump or jump out. This is why you gotta mix up the OS with meaty’s. The OS is just one oki option, not the only oki option.
Does wake up D1/S1 also punish it? I do not know who meaty it is but if jump comes out I guess 7f too.