Post-Tremor Patch - Wishful Thinking

[JLsmooth]

Hehehe.
In all seriousness, I think he needs a 6 or 7 frame poke and MAYBE make his (armored) Fist Flurry recover faster on whiff. We'd see much more of this awesome character if that was the case.

For sure bro!

 

[just_2swift]

Give gunslinger sand toss fake coin toss and give him the option to shoot the coin

 

[Prinz]

Fix Commando's throws and upball though.

I m surprised no one has brought up "Shinnok nerfs" into the discussion, lets keep it this way guys...

No more nerfs. Just bring the bottom to the top. Give at least one of their variation viable tools and I don't think anyone will mind.

 

[MK Led]

Seems like there is nothing they can do about how broken online is.

Maybe if they collect all 7 Dragonballs that might help.

Can't resurrect something that was never alive :/

 

[Sage-Of-Light]

Kung Lao 112124 fixed

MB teleport when delayed tracks

B1 2 no longer whiff on crouching opponents

MB hat spin +15 up from +12

New string 2 3, 2+4 his command grab string from mk9.

no no and no kung lao is calm

 

[EmoScoobyDoo]

Less recovery on forceballs for Reptile,
Maybe not have stopping them cost a bar. And try to make his variations matter more, though I have no clue how they could do this.

Something for Unbreakable Sub Zero.

Something for the Hat trick, Master of storms and Dualist variations. That could be tricky to get a good balance though.

Jacqui could use something as well adas Goro and maybe Ferra Torr.

Other than that I think Bone shaper and Tempest could use some slight changes to make them less overwhelming but nothing huge.

 

[Geoffmeister]

Summoner seems to be too polarizing as it is, you can either get your things going with his vortexes, or you can be completely shut down due his poor defense, i would say it's fair, but not good from a design standpoint, i think it's a variation that if you take anything away from it's offense, you should give something in return to it's defense.

Hmm.. I really have to disagree with it being "fair".. hit-confirmable low starter, tons of meter gain (and synergy) due to being able to continue pressure... he just needs to block correctly once for him to put you in THE WORST situation any character can put you in, his 5 frame NJP is insanely good (especially if you buffer it after a block or whatever).. a d3 with only -1 on block isn't exactly bad either.

 

[Sage-Of-Light]

Fix Scorpion....

lol you joker

 

[Jdizzle31]

Buffs to takeda and ancestral kung jin.

 

[Wetdoba]

Please make FT's B121 actually hit fucking mid it is their main pressure string and it whiffs high on half the cast or more. Also if they want to go ahead and make the third hit 0 on block again since they nerfed it to -3 because it apparently caused so many problems to other characters that would be great. Also remove grab immunity from the game unless people are airborne.

Also Erron Black is absolutely retarded and it baffles me that some people think he is not even top 10, best run speed in the game, halfscreen overhead to low, 21122 best string in the game as its a 5 hit mid block string to give him meter and advances him forward so you can't backdash it or his overhead to low, anti airs, three middle hits are all tick throws, command grab gives him the most tick throw options of any grappler alongside all his mix ups with lows and overheads, EX sandball gets you jumping out of tick throws or makes him plus on block, command grab can be meter burned after confirming it on hit he doesn't have to commit to an EX grab for extra damage like the other grapplers, and he has caltrops for damage over time that also stop people from running in on him and can actually kill you.

Oh and that's not including anything he gets in his variations. This character needs to be looked at, he has way too many options that are better than the options other people have that are their main tools.

 

[WidowPuppy]

Decrease the range of Jacqui's D3 [Low Heel]. Make it combo into itself and add it to the movelist under Kombos naming it "Kombo Got' em" or "Neto"

Decrease the range of Jacqui's S1, think of the rainforests... Enough said.

Increase the start up of Jacqui's D4 [Deep Sweep]. 13 is an unlucky number, make it 14.

Increase the recovery frames of Bionic Dash on hit, so that it is not possible to Dust DB2 after a Kara cancel B4 into Bionic Dash or B33 into Bionic Dash.

So tired of seeing everyone's pocket SG Jacqui in tournament. Really this character get's enough stream time on Netotigr's stream, no need to keep seeing her in offline majors.

Delete Jacqui's VO's from the game.

Also, non gameplay related but... Hoping to See characters that already have over 5 skins get some more. Hope Scorpion will get some new gear as well, he only has over 10 skins atm.

Would like to see all the character with one or two skins get a Scorpion skin.

A new stage added to the game that is actually a giant Scorpion skin.

Rename Online mode "Test Your Luck", while literally making every opponent have green bars. {Oops} skip the second part, forgot that was done already. Maybe add a Shao Kahn or Ed Boon laugh when starting up this mode.

Add an even 10+ frames of input lag while playing "Test Your Luck / Online" Never mind, forgot that was added on day one.

And finally... Nerf Jacqui FFS!

 

[Desperdicio]

I hope they nerf Erron Black's run speed. A character with that kind mixup game and pressure shouldn't just be able to get in your face as easily as he does.

You people really want to nerf Erron Black until you win free. Nice try.

No more nerfs. Just bring the bottom to the top. Give at least one of their variation viable tools and I don't think anyone will mind.

There will always be top tier characters. The game looks as balanced now as it will ever be. You'd only succeed in making the top characters (half of the roster, approximately) switch places with the ones that are not as good (but can still win every match up). I say they only fix what needs to be fixed. Sub-Zero's ice clone, as much as people make fun of Tom Brady, is something that needs adressing. Strings not hitting consistently are something that needs adressing. If they could do something about the online experience, that'd be good. My connection sucks, but a little help from the game itself is always welcome. The buff and nerf requests are just a bunch of salty nonsense.

 

[Matador Fiend]

Kitana, kenshi and shinnok were all toilet tier and have been pulled out. Can goro get the same treatment? All he really needs is some kind of decent aa i guess but come on, everyone agrees he is the worst character in the game except metzos

 

[Kinetic Balding1]

Buff the Netcode!
Takeda Fix predictions:
Fix the glitch in which Takeda's f12 2+4 is interuptable and make it uninteruptable
Shirai ryu bf2 should have the same startup as lasher's bf2
Increase the cancel advantage on block with b21, b2, and f12 2+4 (canceled after the 2) on the Shirai Ryu teleport cancels so that Takeda is a proper mindgame/conditioner character. The new cancels should not be plus but should be no more unsafe than -5.
F12 2+4 and f1 2+4 should hit opponents from behind like how it looks like when you try to hit from behind.
Decrease the startup on bf4 slightly and increase the cancel advantage on hit slightly on many strings so that you can do a string into bf4 and it will combo.
Increase the hitbox slightly on his standing teleport in shirai ryu.
Improve the anti air properties on b21 slightly so it won't whiff on the first couple frames of jumping.
Increase the hitbox on b11 and improve the anti air properties of the string.
212 should be safer. Atleast -9
Diagonal f1 in lasher should be easier to execute and not result in a df1 instead.
Df1 should be an overhead in lasher.
Increase the hit advantage on df1 so that it is not full combo punishable on hit. (Lasher)
Increase the hit advantage on Exdb2(Lasher) and air Exdb1(Shirai Ryu) for more combo potential.
F214 should be 2in1 cancellable
Improve the armor consistency of Exbf2(shirai ryu) so that it has armor everytime and not 70% of the time.

 

[Gobei Go]

Being a Commando Kano main, I can't help but feel obligated to ask for some more reliable tools as well. The parry system is incredibly inconsistent and is only worth doing while interrupting block strings. The hard read on wake up does beat out some armored moves (Not Kung EX Spin...) but then you possibly lose a lot of momentum and followup. The amount of bugs and wonky priority in Kano should be addressed. Better followup after df1 and all parries is really necessary to make this character become a feared grappler. There are really great videos detailing how Kano has many issues in the related Kano forums. I suggest people who are unaware of his trials and tribulations go and check it out and help us lobby for fixes to help him function where he was intended.

 

[Wam-Zlay]

Except, they are not.

i guess that´s the reason you play tanya

we can go and everyone get´s infinite combos with projectile cancels. That´s a good idea imo

 

[DoctorSexual]

I just wish they would relax the requirements for some brutalities. There are some right now which are downright impossible in the course of a normal match,

 

[ghostwriteous]

I dont think there will be a patch with Tremor. If there is, it will probably just have fixes from him and Predator.

 

[just_2swift]

no no and no kung lao is calm

BRUH...

 

[Rude]

This thread fucking sucks.

 

[DOOMSDAY-15RUS-]

cassie, faster run speed
jax, better connect F2,1 on females
reptile, faster ball recovery, better walk speed, more damage, acid split more damage
Kano, commando faster grab start up and a little bit more damage and maybe an high anti air grab to mixup if it's wiffs like sheeva's one

 

[Phosferrax]

You people really want to nerf Erron Black until you win free. Nice try.

lol

 

[Desperdicio]

Also Erron Black is absolutely retarded and it baffles me that some people think he is not even top 10, best run speed in the game, halfscreen overhead to low, 21122 best string in the game as its a 5 hit mid block string to give him meter and advances him forward so you can't backdash it or his overhead to low, anti airs, three middle hits are all tick throws, command grab gives him the most tick throw options of any grappler alongside all his mix ups with lows and overheads, EX sandball gets you jumping out of tick throws or makes him plus on block, command grab can be meter burned after confirming it on hit he doesn't have to commit to an EX grab for extra damage like the other grapplers, and he has caltrops for damage over time that also stop people from running in on him and can actually kill you.

Oh and that's not including anything he gets in his variations. This character needs to be looked at, he has way too many options that are better than the options other people have that are their main tools.

Here we go again. You can armor through F13 into anything as long as you have a bar of meter, and Erron Black needs a bar of meter to make it safe; in fact, if he goes for the EX Sand Grenade and you use armor, he wastes a bar of meter and eats your armored move also, so I say it is fair enough. "Command grab can be meter burned after confirming on hit": yeah, for like 1% , so it can only be useful to end the match. Caltrops do damage as long as you stay in them. I don't see you complaining about Noxious, which is a walking Caltrops that won't allow you to make a comeback. Erron Black is one of the best characters in the game, but that has never been a good reason to change a character.

 

[GLoRToR]

Decrease the range of Jacqui's D3 [Low Heel]. Make it combo into itself and add it to the movelist under Kombos naming it "Kombo Got' em" or "Neto"

Decrease the range of Jacqui's S1, think of the rainforests... Enough said.

Increase the start up of Jacqui's D4 [Deep Sweep]. 13 is an unlucky number, make it 14.

Increase the recovery frames of Bionic Dash on hit, so that it is not possible to Dust DB2 after a Kara cancel B4 into Bionic Dash or B33 into Bionic Dash.

So tired of seeing everyone's pocket SG Jacqui in tournament. Really this character get's enough stream time on Netotigr's stream, no need to keep seeing her in offline majors.

Delete Jacqui's VO's from the game.

Also, non gameplay related but... Hoping to See characters that already have over 5 skins get some more. Hope Scorpion will get some new gear as well, he only has over 10 skins atm.

Would like to see all the character with one or two skins get a Scorpion skin.

A new stage added to the game that is actually a giant Scorpion skin.

Rename Online mode "Test Your Luck", while literally making every opponent have green bars. {Oops} skip the second part, forgot that was done already. Maybe add a Shao Kahn or Ed Boon laugh when starting up this mode.

Add an even 10+ frames of input lag while playing "Test Your Luck / Online" Never mind, forgot that was added on day one.

And finally... Nerf Jacqui FFS!

^ This woman knows what the fuck is up.
#KuffBungjin

 

[Samsara]

If the dlc are going to shit all over the unbreakable toolset you at least need to give him buffs. Predator has cloak+reduced chip universally, and now tremor has an anti-zoning/anti-air shield like move in addition to no chip+reduced hit stun.

Meanwhile unbreakable gets 25% of his ice shield wondering why he has to burn meter to punish string gaps but risk losing 40% just for attempting a read. More cancealable string opportunities from aura and in turn to continue your combos (like ff or the noxious buff) should help. Reduce recovery on ice parry as well. And it would be really nice if we weren't stuck at 30% midscreen. That shit stings more than you know.