PND Ketchup's thoughts after 4 days of Deadshot Gameplay

[SM StarGazer]

"The meter build was nerfed since the raw gameplay we saw against black canary ages ago, so he doesn't build bar with it anymore."

Literally the only thing I came in here to see.

 

[PND_Ketchup]

so kind of like Cassie's flipkick then

Very similar actually.

 

[thlityoursloat]

Disappointed in his comboability but his zoning should more than make up for it. Going to main him day 1.
WIll also be disappointed if players don't yell "HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" while doing his MB rifle shot in tournaments.

 

[M.D.]

or pre-patch MKX because scrubs couldn't deal with GM lol.

There's a difference, GM killed the entire game not just the online.

 

[Shaka]

There's a difference, GM killed the entire game not just the online.

what a scrubby statement.

 

[M.D.]

what a scrubby statement.

True nontheless

 

[thlityoursloat]

There's a difference, GM killed the entire game not just the online.

Another difference is that SZ had insane corner rape and semi-safe launching corner carry 50/50s midscreen to open up corner rape possibilities.

 

[M.D.]

It's ok, only GM mains or BrokenTier mains that 10-0ed GM say that he was fine.

 

[PND_Ketchup]

This is a Deadshot thread guys, not a Sub Zero thread

 

[ismael4790]

@PND_Ketchup From what you saw, is it safe to say that a whiffed bf1 will not get punished by teleport characters?

#NotTeleflurryAgain

 

[LaidbackOne]

This is a Deadshot thread guys, not a Sub Zero thread

On paper MB Rifle seems kinda sick (mid, 10% chip and pushback). What do you guys think about this move in general since you've seen it in practice ?

 

[Belial]

Podcast is up for anyone that wants to hear it!

Aaand it has no answers

 

[PND_Ketchup]

Aaand it has no answers

Your question was "How are the beta characters" and our answer in this video was that none of them felt different in any way.

That was your answer.

 

[DubiousShenron]

Can we please not compare Deadshot to GM Sub. Please?

 

[M.D.]

Hey I didn't start the GM thing, I said there will be a shitstorm just like the one with Deathstroke in inj1.

 

[DownfouralitY]

Great cast @PND_Ketchup, unfortunately this makes the wait even harder. Swamp Thing sounds great, though hopefully there's a silver lining with his trait.

 

[Wetdoba]

2 questions from the podcast:

Did Swampthing have a cancellable HKD string or normal you could cancel into trait activation? If you cancel the first hit of sweep into trait is it still a HKD?

Can you cancel out of either of the hits of Swampthing S3?

 

[GrimJack]

2 questions from the podcast:

Did Swampthing have a cancellable HKD string or normal you could cancel into trait activation? If you cancel the first hit of sweep into trait is it still a HKD?

Can you cancel out of either of the hits of Swampthing S3?

Since they said his d3 works like Ninjutsu b4 then I assume it would not knock down if you cancel it

 

[PND OmegaK]

2 questions from the podcast:

Did Swampthing have a cancellable HKD string or normal you could cancel into trait activation? If you cancel the first hit of sweep into trait is it still a HKD?

Can you cancel out of either of the hits of Swampthing S3?

Can't answer the first 2 questions definitely, but I think the answer is no to both. S3 wasn't cancellable on either hit in this build for sure though.

 

[PND OmegaK]

Since they said his d3 works like Ninjutsu b4 then I assume it would not knock down if you cancel it

He means mid juggle

 

[GrimJack]

@PND OmegaK can you explain why you guy said that ST standing 3 is good? Quite curious about that

 

[KeyserSoze]

Wow, great breakdown. MB rifle shot sounds serious.

 

[PND OmegaK]

@PND OmegaK can you explain why you guy said that ST standing 3 is good? Quite curious about that

It's got great range and a fair bit of pushback, really abusable when you've got someone in the corner who doesn't have much range themselves.

 

[KeyserSoze]

I better not hear one tear about mb rifle. It is as strong (apparently) as a standing reset or rush down fool loving tool.

If u guys get your crazy offense then we get something crazy for zoning.

And before we get into the "but death stroke made the game unplayable for casuals and needs nerfs". ... ask yourself something. Were the same casuals that were losing to death stroke pre patch still losing the exact same way post patch? The answer is yes. Yes they were.

Totally agree.

I'm a self-described rush down fool, but the reality is that, to have a perfect fighting game, you need every play-style to be well-represented. The fact is, those of us who want to play characters like Jason, Bane, Grodd, etc. NEED zoners who are just as overwhelming from a distance as we are up close. We NEED this, because without it, we really aren't growing as players and we really aren't accomplishing anything.

Plus, zoning can be extremely beautiful to watch at the very highest levels of competitive play.

 

[KeyserSoze]

His trait sounds interesting because you have some classic buff choices built into a zoning play-style. NRS is so creative. IMO, their pure creativity is their biggest strength as game developers.