The very first thing you did on coming into this thread was imply that anyone defending NRS's business practices is a blind fanboy. When I responded to you with three counter-arguments, your response didn't address any of them and simply dismissed me as a fanboy.TL;DR- fanboy gonna fanboy.
If you write something respectful to me I’d reply in kind, but as all the other fanbois here, you’ve got your jimmies rustled because I criticised a company! Seriously- get a life and stop White Knighting.
You’re wrong about MK12 too, by the way.
I'm not going to pretend like you don't make some good points, and belive me: I'm probably the guy that wanted Shang main roster the most in this forum, or close. And I'm not a fan of Shao Khan being pre-order bonus when he's clearly part of the story.TL;DR- fanboy gonna fanboy.
If you write something respectful to me I’d reply in kind, but as all the other fanbois here, you’ve got your jimmies rustled because I criticised a company! Seriously- get a life and stop White Knighting.
You’re wrong about MK12 too, by the way.
Did you just call me toxic? Come on man, I thought we were pals.Thanks Burn, now most of the toxic members are after you. And I can breath for a while lol
There's no need to be this aggressive. He's right on the fact that we could have been more chill with our replies.@Burn2019 I think it's time to leave this thread. You sound dumb, you got served and you're still coming back responding with nonsense that you're gonna be served about again. Just leave with whatever dignity you have left lol
And many of your posts show you to be an ignorant dickhead who is VERY quick to have a go at others with different opinions. Wheras I’ll criticise a company or a general body of clueless people, but not individuals until I’m directly bitched at.The very first thing you did on coming into this thread was imply that anyone defending NRS's business practices is a blind fanboy. When I responded to you with three counter-arguments, your response didn't address any of them and simply dismissed me as a fanboy.
And you're complaining about not being treated with respect?
Are you for fucking real?
Funny how the biggest assholes, who are so fond of telling everyone else to man up, also tend to be the biggest snowflakes when their own wittle feewings get huwt. I wonder if it has anything to do with how little thought actually goes into the shit you say. And every time that fact is about to be exposed, you develop a severe case of butthurt to hide behind.
I think you may be overly generous towards NRS, but the truth is we won’t ever know exactly who is responsible for this level of, in my mind, rampant profiteering. When Battlefield V and Battlefront II released with their various “issues”, people were very fast to go “Evil EA! Another game destroyed!” However, it soon became apparent just how complicit / encouraging DICE were in the decisions that caused these games to fail.I'm not going to pretend like you don't make some good points, and belive me: I'm probably the guy that wanted Shang main roster the most in this forum, or close. And I'm not a fan of Shao Khan being pre-order bonus when he's clearly part of the story.
NRS did also say that there won't be any microtransactions whatsoever though, and that's huge for a AAA title in today's market. Besides remember that Noob was by far the most requested character for the game, and he's not behind a paywall.
Give some, take some. I'm sure NRS had to bargain hard with the WB overlords for what we have, let's not shit on it.
Did you just call me toxic? Come on man, I thought we were pals.
If it's that big of a deal to you x cancel your mk11 preorder. Why support a practice you despise?TL;DR- fanboy gonna fanboy.
If you write something respectful to me I’d reply in kind, but as all the other fanbois here, you’ve got your jimmies rustled because I criticised a company! Seriously- get a life and stop White Knighting.
You’re wrong about MK12 too, by the way.
And I think you are being quite biased against game companies, which honestly I can understand. EA does have a couple of my favorite franchises after all.I think you may be overly generous towards NRS, but the truth is we won’t ever know exactly who is responsible for this level of, in my mind, rampant profiteering. When Battlefield V and Battlefront II released with their various “issues”, people were very fast to go “Evil EA! Another game destroyed!” However, it soon became apparent just how complicit / encouraging DICE were in the decisions that caused these games to fail.
Lol, it was more like a joke, and no I didn't mean YOU with toxic, how could I ;-)Did you just call me toxic? Come on man, I thought we were pals.
Now that's better.Lol, it was more like a joke, and no I didn't mean YOU with toxic, how could I ;-)
MK11 so far seems that way.And I think you are being quite biased against game companies, which honestly I can understand. EA does have a couple of my favorite franchises after all.
Here's the thing though: MK11 isn't even remotely close to examples you made. Battlefront II was a pay to win with as much anti consumer practices as they could come up with, and Battlefield V was a political stunt with marketing all about insulting fans and lack on content. MK11 does have a couple of annoyances, but they are not even close to the EA's trainwrecks!
Don't get me wrong: while I disagree with you, I think your feedback is welcome since it keeps NRS and WB to follow EA's example too hard like Blizzard did. But you also need to give me that MK11 is far from EA levels of anti consumerism.
MK11 doesn't have that stuff yet though. I want to think they learned from their mistakes and those of other companies, and won't be pushing too hard.MK11 so far seems that way.
But after “easy fatality tokens” in MKX, deliberately holding back a genuine fan favourite (Shang) in place of a character not many cared much about (Jacqui), introducing a roundly criticised gear & lootbox system (IJ2).... I think you may be in for an unpleasant shock regarding NRS.
My counter points areIf it's that big of a deal to you x cancel your mk11 preorder. Why support a practice you despise?
I'm all for voting with your wallet, and I have criticized NRS for plenty of things. Every game they make I critique. If you would, complain about something worth complaining about. Time and time again the company you loathe has slam packed their games with content, yet you complain like they're putting less and less in them. Sfv basically did a full retail early access launch with a fraction of the content this game is gonna launch with.
Here's your respectful response.
What is your counter point?
The reveal of paid DLC before the full roster, plus the choice of DLC compared to the base roster is a very clear signal to me. At this point you and I will simply have to agree to disagree.MK11 doesn't have that stuff yet though. I want to think they learned from their mistakes and those of other companies, and won't be pushing too hard.
So far they have given us reasons to be cautious, but not negative. Let's be that way.
NRS announced 4 paid DLC characters for MKX before the base roster reveal. And highly requested Tremor and Tanya ended up DLC, while Jacqui and Ferra/Torr were added to the main roster (no offence to their fans).The reveal of paid DLC before the full roster, plus the choice of DLC compared to the base roster is a very clear signal to me. At this point you and I will simply have to agree to disagree.
You're an idiot. How about you spent years creating something of value, and I'll demand that you sell it for only $1.MK11 basic edition now sells for $200: “I know right, evil greedy company wants to make money and pay their employees.”
MK11 now consists of 7 fighters with another 20 as DLC: “I know right, evil greedy company wants to make money and pay their employees.”
MK11 has a 1/2 hr story mode with the other 7 1/2 hours as DLC: “I know right, evil greedy company wants to make money and pay their employees.”
Your corporate White Knighting is embarrassing and anti-consumer, but easily debunked.
That way of talking will only make people want to disagree with you. He's been nothing but polite with anyone who didn't act rude towards him first, why do you have to call him an idiot?You're an idiot. How about you spent years creating something of value, and I'll demand that you sell it for only $1.
Here's what you're missing; they'd be 100% fine doing that, because no one is force you to buy it. If you don't think its worth $200 for a 0.5 hour story mode game, then don't buy dimwit.
Because he is an idiot and frankly there's no hope of a rational discussion with him on this. Hundreds of people, who have their own lives and families and wants and needs, spent years putting this product together, and he cries because they are announcing DLC before we know what's in the base game? DLC which is also being sold right now, and until this announcement, no one had any idea AT ALL what was included beyond the base game.That way of talking will only make people want to disagree with you. He's been nothing but polite with anyone who didn't act rude towards him first, why do you have to call him an idiot?
My discussion with him wasn't that bad. We didn't reach to an agreement, but you can't win them all.Because he is an idiot and frankly there's no hope of a rational discussion with him on this. Hundreds of people, who have their own lives and families and wants and needs, spent years putting this product together, and he cries because they are announcing DLC before we know what's in the base game? DLC which is also being sold right now, and until this announcement, no one had any idea AT ALL what was included beyond the base game.
As someone who works for a living, also creating something protected by copyright, to feed my family, provide housing, to make my life more enjoyable, and pays (a lot of) taxes supporting society, I find his attitude highly offensive, no matter how "politely" you think he may have expressed it.
You mean the publisher that is absorbing 100% of the financial risk, by paying for the development of MK11 up front for years? Everyone that actually worked on MK11 already has their paycheck, so if the game bombs, they still have the money from all the time they spent working on it. Its the publishers money that paid their payrolls.Don't blame NRS, blame the publisher who's soul goal is to please the shareholders.
Never gets old.My hype is at about 13 out of 10 right now lol