. guess i stick with his second variation.
Pop up on krushing blow, requirement is to catch them blocking high
I have found nothing with the ghost ball. The slide covers half screen and recovers at -19 on block. LOL. The first variation seems incomplete.anybody an idea when to use the ghostball in the first variation? seems useless to me. also don't like that slide isn't full screen
Correct. You can do 1,1,3 xx EX tele-slam f+2,2,1 after for 43% of damage. The problem is b+3,1+3 is -16 on block. I am also not sure why any opponent would be stand blocking against Noob at any range.
Yeah, it doesn't seem that you can condition in any way. The only thing I can think of you catch them off wave dashing, which I'm not sure yet how it will be properly utilizied in match. Thanks guys for answers.
Wait so the grab pop-up with the sickle isn't a tournament move, good lord these variations are such a failure atm.
I wouldn't cut like that off the bat, one of his tourney variation has shadow portals (teleslam launcher) which is nice, and aside the sickle snag he has very good anti-air tools already (f3 for instance, which can lead to s. portals). The only bad thing you can't do s.portals twice in one combo.
Sickle Snag and Teleslam are tournament variations js. Plus both in one variation.
Noob
Now I’m a bit confused here. Are tournament variations different from default variations then?
Yes they are which is all the more confusing
Exactly. For some reason, NRS made different sets of layouts for characters, one set for tournaments, second for other modes, including training mode.
Ghost Ball is the 40something Frames unblockable version. Spirit Ball is much faster but is a blockable/duckable high.I'm going around updating the more frame data sheet thanks to @ShepherdOfFire
Now Noob's has both his variations:
Spirit Ball seems really fast for what it is.
Is it still unblockable??
Ghost ball : Start up : 42 / Active : N/A / Recovery : N/A / Cancel adv : N/A / Hit adv. : -6 / Block adv. N/A / FB block adv. N/A
Well, Ghost Ball is about double the startup time than Shadow Tackle and Spirt Ball, so if you condition your opponent to jump over some things then you could nail them on their way down because of the unexpected delay.
The shadow tackle has a slow start up. The opponent can react and jump anywhere but mid screen, where the ghost ball and the shadow slide are too dangerous to be used. I will comment on Noob's zoning in a separate post, though.
How viable is b11+3 xx Spiritball as an ender for restand and pressure midscreen? I've had different people testing things here and there and haven't had them really explore this yet. I'm not too impressed so far with Noob with what I'm hearing and seeing but I'll hold off on judgement until I have the game tomorrow.
b+1,1+3 xx spirit ball is +7 on block, but there is significant amount of push back. Only b+2 reaches. Kabal and Skarlet have access to identical resets from far superior strings and combo starters. As a punish, 1,1,3 xx EX tele-slam, dash f+3, dash b+1,1+3 xx spirit ball connects for 35% of damage.
