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Mortal Kombat X Patch Notes 6/23/15

actually there was a hidden Sub buff in this patch, there is slightly less damage scaling on SZ1's 1towards_2_2 kombo.
That's nice but I hate hidden buffs and nerfs. Why not just list it? The clone issue still needs to be addressed. GMs biggest tool is ice clone and it doesn't work properly on freezing. Just make it freeze opponents when they touch it like its intended, that would end the SZ communities complaints and obviously fix the back 12 ex clone glitch where the ex clone doesn't come out consistently. With those 2 fixes SZ players will have nothing to complain about.
 
You miss the point. When they buffed his totems (including his defense one---obsidian I think) they removed any incentive to actually play Unbreakable. Outside of a slide and a ice ball, Kotal now does everything Unbreakable does with better damage and more tools. Do you see my point yet? They didn't even think it through, and now when they had a chance to balance all the characters they chose to ignore Subby. This is the issue.
You say "outside of slide and ice ball" like those two things aren't a big deal.
 

SEV

Apprentice
Anyone else still having issues being able to get the patch? Booted the game up more than a few times since it was announced and my xbone won't start the download for it. Tried hard reseting a few times too and still got nothing.
 

Samsara

Resident Cynic
You say "outside of slide and ice ball" like those two things aren't a big deal.
Lol ice ball is easily avoided, slide is full combo punishable. You really think a projectile that has to be used mid combo or exclusively in the corner and a move that only grants him linear mobility means that Blood God didn't essentially made Unbreakable worthless?

Unbreakable: defense buff, parry that won't stop jumpins, no decent anti air, ice ball and slide

Blood God: sun ray, sun disk, parry, 3 anti airs, defense buff, gimmick buff, damage buff, and another damage buff.

Get real.
 

juicepouch

blink-182 enthusiast
Lol ice ball is easily avoided, slide is full combo punishable. You really think a projectile that has to be used mid combo or exclusively in the corner and a move that only grants him linear mobility means that Blood God didn't essentially made Unbreakable worthless?

Unbreakable: defense buff, parry that won't stop jumpins, no decent anti air, ice ball and slide

Blood God: sun ray, sun disk, parry, 3 anti airs, defense buff, gimmick buff, damage buff, and another damage buff.

Get real.
Hold on sun disk is indisputably worse than ice ball. If only @RYX were here to see the insufferable sun disk upplay
 

Braindead

I want Kronika to step on my face
Lol ice ball is easily avoided, slide is full combo punishable. You really think a projectile that has to be used mid combo or exclusively in the corner and a move that only grants him linear mobility means that Blood God didn't essentially made Unbreakable worthless?

Unbreakable: defense buff, parry that won't stop jumpins, no decent anti air, ice ball and slide

Blood God: sun ray, sun disk, parry, 3 anti airs, defense buff, gimmick buff, damage buff, and another damage buff.

Get real.
Your Unbreakable downplaying posts are quite sickening.

I tried to ignore the hundreds of comments you already posted but you just don't stop.

STOP
 

ragnar0kz28

Warrior
how good will kitana be now after this patch? I think she will be better than before, only time will tell, D1 into parry is cool for all those counter pokers :D
 

aj1701

Champion
Doesn't really matter about your own personal opinion, it's objectively shit.
Its probably your internet connection that's objectively shit. I rarely have lag spikes or notice any button delay in the overwhelming majority of my matches. But then I have a great ISP with 1GBS up / down and my PS4 is hardwired using gigabit router / hubs.
 

Samsara

Resident Cynic
Your Unbreakable downplaying posts are quite sickening.

I tried to ignore the hundreds of comments you already posted but you just don't stop.

STOP
Tell me why Unbreakable is a solid variation worth using over Cryo or GM in any of Subby's matchups. Tell me why his defense variation doesn't need an anti air. Tell me why doesn't need an armored move to help with getting out of pressure and offer up some convertable damage. If you can do all of these things than maybe I'll cut it some slack.

As if I care whether or not you want see what I have to say.
 
Subzero GM doesn't need buffs but he needs his clone properties to work correctly and he needs his b12 to be able to ex clone cancel without glitching. Anything outside of that I don't care about.
 

ColdSpine

"I wore those colors before you"
Tell me why Unbreakable is a solid variation worth using over Cryo or GM in any of Subby's matchups. Tell me why his defense variation doesn't need an anti air. Tell me why doesn't need an armored move to help with getting out of pressure and offer up some convertable damage. If you can do all of these things than maybe I'll cut it some slack.

As if I care whether or not you want see what I have to say.
you see , your approaching ubreakable with thr mindset of GM and Cryo which is totally wrong imho.

Its not a matter of choosing a variation over the other two and downplaying the other two.

Unbreakable has the parry which is good at stopping rush down and button mashing people, not everything requires armor to get out of pressure.

Second, the aura makes u totally immune to chip hence immune to zoning.

It might seem lacking at the damage department but this variation depends heavily on good reads and fundmentals.

Its a completely different style of subzero and i do agree it needs some looking into but by no means its useless especially when u know the gaps in strings that u could parry them, once ur opponent starts respecting that, unbreakable will start to shine.

Thats just my opinion :)
 

PANDEMlC

El Psy Congroo
Its probably your internet connection that's objectively shit. I rarely have lag spikes or notice any button delay in the overwhelming majority of my matches. But then I have a great ISP with 1GBS up / down and my PS4 is hardwired using gigabit router / hubs.
lol you got me, who knew all this time it was me that was the problem and not the horrendous netcode itself, I was blind for so long. Playing every other fighter with good netcode effortlessly, never having lag problems in any other game, wow, guess I need to upgrade. Just kidding, you're just being a butt hurt fanboy dick riding this garbage ass excuse of a netcode. Aren't you region locked to or is that Xbox? On PC we have 1/10 the playerbase and a million other glitches that can cause performance issues. Unfortunately it's still objectively shit, I play with a guy one state away who has a high end pc and an amazing conection and the shit still isn't as smooth as it should be, it's solid but of course why the fuck wouldn't it be? Now move those people a few states further, add some worse internet, wireless connections, weaker pcs, whatever and boom all the games will have mediocre connections. You can jerk off to your own connection all you want but this games netcode is TRASH. You can point fingers at people's internet but in reality every other fighting game can do it infinitely better with the exact same connections. SFxT and Persona, could play people from Cali like they were in the east coast with me.
 

Samsara

Resident Cynic
Zoning has never been a large contender in this game. While the parry has great start up but the recovery is dangerous and it still doesn't protect the obnoxious jump ins in this game. I agree that a successful read is quite rewarding, but when they're only getting hit for 26% at a time its a bit of a hill to climb.

Right now if you want to play defensively but also have good tools you have to play GM. You also forget to factor in that while you don't take chip they can still build meter.

Regardless, you'd be hard pressed to convince me this variation doesn't need some attention. His defensive options should be rounded out, because right now he's hardly on anyones trouble list let alone demanding any kind of respect.
 
Lol ice ball is easily avoided, slide is full combo punishable. You really think a projectile that has to be used mid combo or exclusively in the corner and a move that only grants him linear mobility means that Blood God didn't essentially made Unbreakable worthless?
You've pretty much lost all credibility when speaking of Sub Zero now. I will actually re-quote this post any time in the future when you try to say something regarding the character as unilateral way to show you don't know what you're talking about.
 

aj1701

Champion
lol you got me, who knew all this time it was me that was the problem and not the horrendous netcode itself, I was blind for so long. Playing every other fighter with good netcode effortlessly, never having lag problems in any other game, wow, guess I need to upgrade. Just kidding, you're just being a butt hurt fanboy dick riding this garbage ass excuse of a netcode. Aren't you region locked to or is that Xbox? On PC we have 1/10 the playerbase and a million other glitches that can cause performance issues. Unfortunately it's still objectively shit, I play with a guy one state away who has a high end pc and an amazing conection and the shit still isn't as smooth as it should be, it's solid but of course why the fuck wouldn't it be? Now move those people a few states further, add some worse internet, wireless connections, weaker pcs, whatever and boom all the games will have mediocre connections. You can jerk off to your own connection all you want but this games netcode is TRASH. You can point fingers at people's internet but in reality every other fighting game can do it infinitely better with the exact same connections. SFxT and Persona, could play people from Cali like they were in the east coast with me.
You're playing on the trash PC port? And then against people across the globe? Ya, you're right, its totally the games fault.

High end PC has nothing to do with the connection between you two, NOTHING. AT. ALL. Even a shitty computer from 10 years ago can fully utilize a 1gbs connection.

I played someone 600 miles away (that's across four states) and it played very well. So yes, its either your connection, your opponents, or both.

So please explain why I can play the same game and not have the same issues?
 

Samsara

Resident Cynic
You've pretty much lost all credibility when speaking of Sub Zero now. I will actually re-quote this post any time in the future when you try to say something regarding the character as unilateral way to show you don't know what you're talking about.
Allow me to spell it out:

Slide: combo punishable. Universally understood by anyone who knows the matchup.

Ice ball: slow. No chip. Gauranteed off. A b12 and a b33 on females as well. Easiest to convert in the corner.

How did I lose credibility? Nothing I said was false. If you think ice ball is hard to deal with that's on you, but don't try and call me an idiot for walking you through this stuff.

You take these two tools along side a flawed parry and a single defense buff and try to argue that a buffed blood god didn't render this variation obsolete your misguided
 

Vilén

too smart to play MKX
I'm glad I forced myself to stick with this until at least the Kombat Pack finished out.

NRS actually seems willing to turn this shitshow around. I've gone from hating every character to not having the time to play with all the ones that are actually becoming interesting.