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You can just stand back and punish him on recovery, also to my understanding Invincible moves lose to throw
You can just stand back and punish him on recovery, also to my understanding Invincible moves lose to throw
Only agree with Pyro as I feel they ruined kobu because everyone hated it, and doubt they will fix that. I don't really care about f3 it was unusable anyway the run cancel on it was always dumb and it's a small launcher. I like the ex shroud stunning should be able to stun in air aswell unlike ex tonfa only stunning in ground. Though you'll see ex shroud being used on ground way more but still let us have the option to use in air. And ofc I liked the more strings and no gap in b312. But if I were to make an adjustmentioned to kobu I'd bring back armour on ex tonfa. Characters lock her in because she don't have her old armour to tonfa out. Well, in my experience I really relied on tonfas armour.
Anyone who's not a complete idiot can just hit any standing normal when he's going through the motion and not quite set on the out of his phase on the other side and blow it up. I've had it happen multiple times...
Not true. He can be grabbed out on a read / reaction, and for an even greater punish, walk back a bit and punish full combo on his recovery.
As someone who both hates and enjoys the robots, I find if I have smoke in the corner knowing he will possibly phase out, I stop all pressure and throw him back in the corner on a read and continue my game, or as I mentioned above, walk back a bit and punish him on recovery.
If you sit there, Smoke can just fight his way out if the Smoke player reads that. If he reads you won't pressure, or even delay your pressure slightly, he can wait as well, then EX phase when you scoot forward. It isn't much different than any other wakeup attack, honestly...you sit there, that will beat the wakeup. You don't, then he's out.
Just grab y grab him out of everything
Ahhhh Dragons Breath. Yeah, that shit will be taken out. Lol.
Bare minimum he needs a lot of whiffing fixed
Like what?
It's really good damage especially with these proposed buffs. But you don't need to run cancel with it in combos use f2 (spinning slaps). They probably won't do that with Kobu, but idc that's what would be good. No only extra damage and less frames they should make F3 usable and fix the run cancel.
It's more of a reaction based on whether he wakes up or not. I think it's harder for him on wakeup more than any other character who has wakeups.
I agree, but I think it should just bounce automatically. She has no over heads in pyro accept jump ins but how good are they in any fighting game. As soon as you charge everybody knows what your doing or your get blasted real quick with a 35%+ combo.
I don't see how. In fact, in certain ways, it's easier. Smoke is one of, what, 2 variations that are capable of using a wakeup no matter what their life is. Also, having a standard wakeup attack wouldn't really solve the problem of being able to get out of the corner. Giving him armor on EX teleport would do nothing for him that EX phase already does better. If they wait on your teleport, they'll punish you anyway. And in the process, you can get your armor broken, get blocked, etc. It honestly wouldn't solve the issue Smoke players seem to have with waking up, which is basically getting read on their wakeups. Which would happen with any other character. >_>
Yeah, I agree.
There even was a Tier list going around here weeks before the game came out.xD
He can, the problem is that typically in NRS games to be a viable zoner you still need good utility in close quarters to back yourself up, and well, his normals pre-patch were whack. That's not the case so much anymore. I'd say the buffs to his normals are still more beneficial to Kenjutsu/Possessed overall but it still may be all that's needed as far as making Balanced serviceable for the matchups it should be used in.
There's a little thing in this game called "variations", one of which literally eliminates this from happening if you're that concerned about it.
I'm not suggesting giving Ex phase armour or giving him a standard armoured attack (like on Tele). I'm just saying that on wakeup make the distance travelled increased because currently characters can stand in a position where if he wakes up then they can punish but if he doesn't they get pressure - the risk/reward when you think about it isn't exactly in his favour since the opposer can cover two options at once.
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Discussion is healthy earlier on. It lets us explore ideas together earlier on so we can all reach the best conclusion in the end. The opinions will probably adapt over time with the gameplay
