Discussion MKXL Buffs And Nerfs That We Need

[EdenianWarrior]

Calm down you maniac just because he thinks what you're suggesting is a little crazy doesn't mean you get to be an asshole. With the buffs you suggested she would be crazy and she has decent staggers and her throws like that would make it damn near impossible to do much against her in theory. Because any second you are trying to inch forward she can run up throw with her usain bolt level run and send you full-screen

Exactly I don't understand why he doesn't get that.

 

[RoboCop]

Jacqui

Make her f3/f4 strings easier to cancel into specials. As it stands, f3b4 is very finnicky, and trying to cancel it into a special is even worse. For a character who already suffers in the neutral, this is a small fix that would enhance her playability without actually making her more powerful.

I'd also take armor on her MB air drop, though that would just be a bonus, and not something necessary to make her viable.

 

[coconutshrimp]

Jacqui

Make her f3/f4 strings easier to cancel into specials. As it stands, f3b4 is very finnicky, and trying to cancel it into a special is even worse. For a character who already suffers in the neutral, this is a small fix that would enhance her playability without actually making her more powerful.

I'd also take armor on her MB air drop, though that would just be a bonus, and not something necessary to make her viable.

Nope

 

[Addhad]

Kitana DEMANDS
General:
-0 recovery frames on landing after iaf.
-Can now ex fan toss in the air.
-Throat Slice now leaves the opponent standing on hit.
-Iaf hits mid if thrown during the first 13 frames of a neutral jump only.
-Overhead float now +6 on block
-F1 is now 11f start up, down from 14f, and now uses both fans for 2 hitting hurt boxes.
-F22 is now +2 on block, up from -6.
-b2 is now 23f start up and now has a taller vertical hurtbox and now also a hurt box behind Kitana.
-b14 is now -3 on block, up from -4

Assasin:
-Assasin strike/ impale now hits overhead

Royal storm:
-Fan Nado is now multi hitting and has significant increase in pushback on block.
-Reflect is now 13f start up, down from 15f and some projectiles that couldn't be reflected can now be reflected.

Mournful:
- Ex glaIves now has no gap

Are you on FICKING drugs?

 

[RoboCop]

Nope

Yup

 

[Addhad]

......nerf ex shadow kick......


It's......a....freakin'.......HIGH !!!!! FFS!

OI m8 u suck u get f3ed u stay blocking u get f3ed into pressure or..... GET........FREAKIN SHADOWKICKED THEN U BLOCK IT THEN.......U GET FREAKIN D4ED M8

 

[Addhad]

Your A-List nerfs touch universal tools and do collateral damage (again) to fisticuffs...noooopeee!

At this point, mainly inly nerfs to specific variation tools should be done, or we will send many variations to the trash bin.

Tag me next time m8 <3 and I agree dude but fisticuffs needs other buffs

 

[coconutshrimp]

Yup

Jacqui is fine as is rn. Kinda stupid tbh at times with Shotgun. She does not need anything

 

[coconutshrimp]

Are you on FICKING drugs?

OI m8 u suck u get f3ed u stay blocking u get f3ed into pressure or..... GET........FREAKIN SHADOWKICKED THEN U BLOCK IT THEN.......U GET FREAKIN D4ED M8

 

[Xsalaiz17]

Tremor:
Give him a good poke and a faster start up on his b1.

 

[Addhad]

OI m8 u duck on wakeup u get but punched u walk back to whiff punish u get shadow kiked

 

[RoboCop]

Jacqui is fine as is rn. Kinda stupid tbh at times with Shotgun. She does not need anything

Like I said, the armor on MB air drop isn't necessary, it would just be nice as a Jacqui player, but I agree, it could put her over the top.

The changes to her f3/f4 are just quality-of-life improvements, though. They wouldn't actually make her any better than she is now, they would just allow her to be played as she's meant to be played.

 

[Baconlord]

Someone needs to stop you from posting.

he's right tho

 

[Addhad]

S

Tremor:
Give him a good poke and a faster start up on his b1.

Stop

 

[Addhad]

OI m8 I just saw a fight happen on the bus some old white dude got attacked by this stupid drunk Filipino

 

[Addhad]

OI m8 I just saw a fight happen on the bus some old white dude got attacked by this stupid drunk Filipino

Cops chasin his ass fukin track star

 

[Xsalaiz17]

S

Stop

You stop lol he needs it. He literally can't get anything going without someone poking him .

 

[Addhad]

You stop lol he needs it. He literally can't get anything going without someone poking him .

I'm coming home soon -.-

 

[HellRider]

wait, what about Cage rc f3 on whiff? and the Sub Zero changes would only make Grandmaster stronger, with still no reason to use the other two. The Kenshi changes also wouldn't take him out of the trashcan.

 

[Nu-Skoool]

Piercing Mileena really needs only a slight damage and meter building reduction along with either a cool down window after telekick or completely disallow sais to come out on block.

B12 doesn't need to be touched. It's integral to her style of pressure, perhaps extend her leg hitbox forward or simply decrease its forward movement. All in all its a pretty honest tool, compared to most of the dirt in this game.

Id like to a slight damage buff on her metered move set. One of the reasons she has so many opportunities to use breaker is because she doesn't have much incentive to use it in the first place. This could serve to help fix the skew with her meter management.

 

[Hara-Killer]

Tell me, @Hara-Killer , what is wrong with strong zoning? Who do you main? Cutthroat kano? I bet you like safe 50/50's into more 50/50's and safe armor and 3/4 screen normals/ advancing armor. You can't handle strong zoning? With a run mechanic? With all of the above? I'd that too hard for you? I suggest you git gud

r u angry or something ? my mains ? well i use , commando , cybernetic , Konjurer, Nimble , Sketor , Smoke , Pretty lady , Unstoppable , Relentless , Ronin , Flame Fist .... want some commando buffs and KP3 reveal is that too much ?

 

[MadeOfMetal]

LOL TYM, literally nothing has been accomplished. another thread down the drain.

 

[LaidbackOne]

Piercing Mileena really needs only a slight damage and meter building reduction along with either a cool down window after telekick or completely disallow sais to come out on block.

B12 doesn't need to be touched. It's integral to her style of pressure, perhaps extend her leg hitbox forward or simply decrease its forward movement. All in all its a pretty honest tool, compared to most of the dirt in this game.

Id like to a slight damage buff on her metered move set. One of the reasons she has so many opportunities to use breaker is because she doesn't have much incentive to use it in the first place. This could serve to help fix the skew with her meter management.

Yeah, no recovery on b12 is integral to her playstyle. Fucking lol.

 

[LaidbackOne]

Kitana DEMANDS
General:
-0 recovery frames on landing after iaf.
-Can now ex fan toss in the air.
-Throat Slice now leaves the opponent standing on hit.
-Iaf hits mid if thrown during the first 13 frames of a neutral jump only.
-Overhead float now +6 on block
-F1 is now 11f start up, down from 14f, and now uses both fans for 2 hitting hurt boxes.
-F22 is now +2 on block, up from -6.
-b2 is now 23f start up and now has a taller vertical hurtbox and now also a hurt box behind Kitana.
-b14 is now -3 on block, up from -4

Assasin:
-Assasin strike/ impale now hits overhead

Royal storm:
-Fan Nado is now multi hitting and has significant increase in pushback on block.
-Reflect is now 13f start up, down from 15f and some projectiles that couldn't be reflected can now be reflected.

Mournful:
- Ex glaIves now has no gap

You forgot to add bro.

 

[AcMilan91]

Buff jax command grab or at least change his ragdoll brutality needs for Christ sake