Point blank yeah but mid to fullscreen u have (had) to be waiting and waiting and instant ice clone nerf WAS needed just like quan instant batman summoning.The problem with nerfing sub zero is pretty much that it wasn't needed because every character could already punish him for clone cancels besides F4 clone.
DF4 and BF2 are still unchanged, which sucks because I'd say flick needs changed more than the unblockable needs to be controllable.Thanks. So I'm guessing the summoning fiend hand thing is still as bad as it is? What about the flick?
That's 18f, -11 and not special cancellable lol. It's a startB3 is an overhead launcher. Congrats!
So unless you can punish everything at all times always on reaction it needs to be nerfed?Point blank yeah but mid to fullscreen u have (had) to be waiting and waiting and instant ice clone nerf WAS needed just like quan instant batman summoning.
If its easily abusable then yes. Are u really saying Subzero's : Ice clone -> hide behind clone > ice ball > ice ball -> throw clone or if the clone fades aways INSTANTLY set a new clone tactic is a fair strategy?So unless you can punish everything at all times always on reaction it needs to be nerfed?
Yes.If its easily abusable then yes. Are u really saying Subzero's : Ice clone -> hide behind clone > ice ball > ice ball -> throw clone or if the clone fades aways INSTANTLY set a new clone tactic is a fair strategy?
Kung Jins "nerfs" dont need a write up. Those nerfs were the biproduct of a universal bug fix. He was only safe from his overhead string because of a bug. They already explained that.I would like for NRS to do a small write up on why did they made those changes (heartstone style).
I want to know if they believe Sub Zero Klone was OP, Quan,.. Jin etc,...or if this was a fix to something that was intended on the first place.
I don't get why so many likes, because this post is bullshit. Why do you think that needing a bar to get around a non-bar move is fair? Why do you think that Sub-Zero is entitled to be safe from jump-ins when the opponent is literally stuck in place in the corner? The opponent is now allowed to have a combo opportunity or breaker when playing against Grandmaster Sub-Zero?! Blasphemy! #sarcasmClone going away on block means that some characters get a blocked jump in punch into pressure or a 50/50 after certain clone cancels. Normally the jump in would be blocked and the clone freezes them, not anymore. It's a BIG nerf because some characters will get free 50/50 attempts and will never need to use bar. This also allows them to save meter for combos, to get up, or breaker.
Sub gets a BIG nerf and Quan Chi gets a ONE second cool down on bat so he is literally the same.
In this community crying gets better results then learning.
He could already be hit out of the recovery of clone cancel by everyone from anything cancelled into it besides F4. He didn't need a nerf, but the change also doesn't make him bad.I don't get why so many likes, because this post is bullshit. Why do you think that needing a bar to get around a non-bar move is fair? Why do you think that Sub-Zero is entitled to be safe from jump-ins when the opponent is literally stuck in place in the corner? The opponent is now allowed to have a combo opportunity or breaker when playing against Grandmaster Sub-Zero?! Blasphemy! #sarcasm
Brady, actually you shut up and #gitgud. Grandmaster needs one more adjustment - his own iceball to destroy the clone.
Also Quan's safest option up close is his bat, he needs his bat.
Soo, bait and punish...If you think SZ's clone going away on block isn't bad, imagine the scenario of someone JKing you and then not falling on the clone.
People with far reaching JIP/JIK can literally jump at you all the time without fear of the clone catching them upon landing.
I can armor through the clone throw on reaction and full combo punish it (some charachters like jax) but trying to armor through the clone will result in a getting ur ass frozen, unless the clone is point blank cuz the armor is only on the first few frames and if subzero Baits it ill eat a full combo.Yes.
Look at your scenario anyway. What about the changes makes it so he can't still do that? if he throws the clone at you and just doesn't let it fade away he'll be employing the exact same strategy.
lol what a scrub you are. What will you cry about next? Hard knockdowns? You also need a bar to beat a NORMAL after a hard knockdown. How is that any different than beating the Klone. What will you cry for now? Wake up invincebility for Quan you scrub?!I don't get why so many likes, because this post is bullshit. Why do you think that needing a bar to get around a non-bar move is fair? Why do you think that Sub-Zero is entitled to be safe from jump-ins when the opponent is literally stuck in place in the corner? The opponent is now allowed to have a combo opportunity or breaker when playing against Grandmaster Sub-Zero?! Blasphemy! #sarcasm
Brady, actually you shut up and #gitgud. Grandmaster needs one more adjustment - his own iceball to destroy the clone.
Also Quan's safest option up close is his bat, he needs his bat.
Who the fuck are you?lol what a scrub you are. What will you cry about next? Hard knockdowns? You also need a bar to beat a NORMAL after a hard knockdown. How is that any different than beating the Klone. What will you cry for now? Wake up invincebility for Quan you scrub?!
Learn to WALK forward. Ice ball does no chip and can be ducked and clone toss can also be ducked/low profiled at the right distance. But God forbid NRS players to use fundamentals when they can jump.If its easily abusable then yes. Are u really saying Subzero's : Ice clone -> hide behind clone > ice ball > ice ball -> throw clone or if the clone fades aways INSTANTLY set a new clone tactic is a fair strategy?
I am the guy who will be at CEO wearing a shirt saying PRINZ IS FREE.Who the fuck are you?
Can't SZ slide to punish that?
Please do that. It'll actually be coolI am the guy who will be at CEO wearing a shirt saying PRINZ IS FREE.
MKX Kano is the best he's ever been in design, looks, gameplay and personality. The salt is strong with you.Some ideas for the next patch
- Kano- Removed from the game.
- Kung Lao– Removed from the game.
- Kung Jin – Removed from the game.
Oh acting mature now? You don't get to do that when it was your tweets that started this. There was actually no reason to nerf sub zero. Zero zilch nada, he wasn't dominating anything except people's inexperience and unwillingness to learn the matchup.Dont tag me in a post as irrelevant as this again of you will be my first blocked tym member.