General/Other - Mileena Mileena's True Tier Placement

[GAV]

Mileena is low tier still, She will always suck with her design. She can't counter zone or outzone no one lol it's all about adapting to the Mileena player playstyle, Mileena players quickly run out of options once you've adapted to their playstyle then had to rely on unsafe YOLO

I haven't played her enough to know, but low tiering her seems like downplaying. I would have to take her to the battlefield to know for sure, but I can pull off most of her good stuff - so I don't think it would take long.

 

[Skedar70]

Guyssssss!!! Stooop you are gonna get her nerfed again. She is fine not OP not number 1 just really good now.

 

[GAV]

But I thought Mileena was ruined due to her b1 being nerfed into a disastrous -1. She's no longer viable since she clearly didn't have any other good tools.

Where will the downplayers hide now that the upplayers have come out to play?

I'm not saying my list is set in stone. I'm just trying to figure out the truth.

 

[GAV]

Guyssssss!!! Stooop you are gonna get her nerfed again. She is fine not OP not number 1 just really good now.

My goal isn't to get anyone nerfed or buffed. I would just like to find out the truth.

Remember, they take 1/3 from online, 1/3 from tourneys, and 1/3 from input here. The only way to get on their radar for nerfs is to put up great numbers in the first two.

Like I said, not calling for nerfs. Just want an accurate tier list.

 

[Baconlord]

My goal isn't to get anyone nerfed or buffed. I would just like to find out the truth.

Remember, they take 1/3 from online, 1/3 from tourneys, and 1/3 from input here. The only way to get on their radar for nerfs is to put up great numbers in the first two.

Like I said, not calling for nerfs. Just want an accurate tier list.

I highly doubt that we have that much influence on game balance. I think Paulo just makes the game he wants

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

Not sure if people understand the character or not, still.

 

[The_Tile]

I like how this thread started. I would love to see an updated tier list. Here's the current S+ and S tier members, IMO...

S+ Tier - Cyber Sub, Tarkatan, Butcher, Impostor
S Tier - Sektor, Cyrax, Smoke, Piercing, Cutthroat

Am I way off on anyone in there? Did I miss anyone?

Cyrax is definitely S+, probably better than Cyber Sub imo. He gets the same thing CSZ gets only in the corner, from any touch, anywhere on screen, for no meter and he can loop it.

Sure CSZ has a stronger neutral but I see it like pre patch Tempest and Summoner. Both arguably best in the game, but the dirt Summoner/Cyrax had/has outweighs any advantage that Lao's/CSZ's tools ever gave him in the neutral.

 

[Yoaks]

But I thought Mileena was ruined due to her b12 being nerfed into a disastrous -1. She's no longer viable since she clearly didn't have any other good tools.

Where will the downplayers hide now that the upplayers have come out to play?

Who was downplaying?

 

[BillStickers]

I've been saying Mileena's OD since April 2015 and you SCRUBS are just now realizing it?? Smh never change, TYM.

 

[SaltFace NS]

So I've let this thread rock now for some time to see everyone's reaction to my statement on Mileena.

1. Be completely honest on this...tell me a tool this character doesn't have in her arsenal?

2. Name off the top of your head a match up that she DEFINTELY loses after all these changes? I'm not talking about in theory but an absolute proven bad match up.

3. Tell me how you do you really fight her if she don't give you the "YOLO" that you all wait for?

When you take this into account you realize she is now the perfect character without a single flaw in her design. Her only flaw is human element. For that reason to me she is the best.

 

[SaltFace NS]

If I lose with Mileena it's not her fault but it's mine. I have the tools to win but I have to apply them right. Which now I admit I must learn to do better.

 

[ArmedCalf]

So I've let this thread rock now for some time to see everyone's reaction to my statement on Mileena.

1. Be completely honest on this...tell me a tool this character doesn't have in her arsenal?

2. Name off the top of your head a match up that she DEFINTELY loses after all these changes? I'm not talking about in theory but an absolute proven bad match up.

3. Tell me how you do you really fight her if she don't give you the "YOLO" that you all wait for?

When you take this into account you realize she is now the perfect character without a single flaw in her design. Her only flaw is human element. For that reason to me she is the best.

In your opinion, what's the best way to handle Mileena? Is it to choose a character that has the ability to not let her play, or is there any character that can do something she can but better? Just interested to hear your stance on this.

 

[Alright RyRy]

This may sound weird, but Goro actually handles B12 pretty nicely. I like it.

 

[SaltFace NS]

In your opinion, what's the best way to handle Mileena? Is it to choose a character that has the ability to not let her play, or is there any character that can do something she can but better? Just interested to hear your stance on this.

Currently I'm stuck at work. Once I'm done I'll explain further for you.

 

[Damaja325]

If I lose with Mileena it's not her fault but it's mine. I have the tools to win but I have to apply them right. Which now I admit I must learn to do better.

i agree with that completely. not sure how i feel about her placement on a tier list, tho i know she's high up there now. she is damn good, and any time i lose i can come to grips with it being my failure as a player rather than an exploitation of mileena's weaknesses.

 

[Truesolo]

So mileenas #1? Where's Lao? Who are the top ten?

 

[GAV]

So I've let this thread rock now for some time to see everyone's reaction to my statement on Mileena.

1. Be completely honest on this...tell me a tool this character doesn't have in her arsenal?

2. Name off the top of your head a match up that she DEFINTELY loses after all these changes? I'm not talking about in theory but an absolute proven bad match up.

3. Tell me how you do you really fight her if she don't give you the "YOLO" that you all wait for?

When you take this into account you realize she is now the perfect character without a single flaw in her design. Her only flaw is human element. For that reason to me she is the best.

You're a pro who speaks the truth on your own character without downplaying. I can see why you have such a following. You have a new fan.

 

[GAV]

I highly doubt that we have that much influence on game balance. I think Paulo just makes the game he wants

Paulo has great impact on the game's direction, but the design team's dedication to balance is undeniable - and looking at the numbers by character online and at tournaments, plus by what the general consensus here is - and then looking at the changes - how they decide on change is pretty clear - and its what I said. It may not be completely scientific, but its a lot closer to science than the whimsical decisions of a madman that a lot of people think.

 

[GAV]

So mileenas #1? Where's Lao? Who are the top ten?

I don't think Lao is S tier anymore. I think he's still A, but not longer S.

 

[Jaiyson]

I've always believe that Mileena could hang with the rest of the cast and she has the ability to make any one on the roster play her game and thats just it...Mileena's game can incorporate rushdown and zoning very versatile character .. She is unsafe (yes) but dont have to be. Her conditioning effect is huge... Funny thing is that Players who know the Mileena match up get open up alot easier with her mixups and stagger strings. The block stun on her normals is so minimal that she can start another string and it SEEMS like it flows seamlessly. As for being the number 1 character? Ive never considered Mileena in that category but with all her recent fixes and all her other tools she can definitely contend for it. She has hard matchups yes that requires her to make hard reads and commit to it.. but its and option for her.. Her anti-air game is top tier no doubt about that.. roll, b1, d3, d1, D fucking 2, d4 , u3 etc.. Its up to the player to put all she has to the best use..

 

[mortderire]

what about her lack of a viable meterless OH? Unless I'm missing one that alone would have to keep her out of the top tier.

 

[SaltFace NS]

what about her lack of a viable meterless OH? Unless I'm missing one that alone would have to keep her out of the top tier.

That's the thing she doesn't need it. And if you really want that tool play Ravenous.

 

[Dankster Morgan]

what about her lack of a viable meterless OH? Unless I'm missing one that alone would have to keep her out of the top tier.

Come on dude characters are more than 50/50s. Tempest lao didn't have a low and he was one of the best characters in the game after his buffs up until the XL patch.

 

[Dankster Morgan]

That's the thing she doesn't need it. And if you really want that tool play Ravenous.

What are your opinions on Ravenous at this point?

 

[SaltFace NS]

What are your opinions on Ravenous at this point?

Really good to use vs People who know the Mileena match up. It twists everything they think they know about the character & uses their knowledge against them. But Piercing sadly is still better.