Mandolore1123
Man of Science Who Wields the Living Lightning
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Don't forget about F2. That's +18 (or +15) on hit, so a lot of things jail after, including 2, 4, 3. I love doing F2 ~ 1, 2, 1 for a KB.
I struggle incorporating F2 into my game. I'm just not good at spacing it yet, and it being 21F startup and it being high doesn't help. Any advice on what situations to use F2? I know F4 is only 2 frames faster, but I just feel more confident in F4 than F2 right now.
For F4 and F2 you just have to get a feel for your opponent first. Of course the main purpose is whiff punishing stuff. But you could catch someone preemptively as well. I've gotten hits because I felt my opponent would try moving (usually a jump) at this time maybe because they're getting antsy. Maybe you've played patiently and the opponent thinks they can start sticking buttons out in that range or throw a projectile. Then you just zip across. You can also confirm into fly or just cancel too. Or if you're thunder wave you could just throw it out and teleport away anyways.
You may as well just @ me. I got jade, erron, Kabal, geras, Jax I definitely prefer raijin. maybe kitana, Kung Lao. I like it against jacqui.
How does the Jacqui matchup look with Raijin? Being able to punish dash punch and forcing her to lower her pressure a bit due to Quick Charge sounds nice on paper, but what's the match actually like?
Like any other jacqui match. She's constantly pressing buttons for free. But at least I have a 4f reversal to buffer during her shenanigans. Can punish dash punch, B22, and B22 shrapnel blast. Also Raiden has actual mixups which I believe is the way to fighter her unless you can really keep her out.
Why Jade?
You can fly against glow and low wave on reaction. Air glaive you can too just be careful of flying into a glaive. Which means you easily punish her zoning into corner carry from a distance. Then all her normal pressure stuff she'd usually do is easily punished with raijin. You basically make the jade player use like 3 moves or start canceling into glow kick on block.
How does Frost beat Raiden? Please explain.
You can't reasonably react to frost D4. D4 reach is only matched by F1, F2, and F4. The first two are high and the mid is too slow. Further out B22 reaches you, and you can't counter poke properly spaced B2 and B22. Further out F2 is the only button she can press. Sure you can duck but now you're not moving and she's just gonna take space until she's in range again. Go full screen her projectiles are faster than yours + sheild. There's no point in the match where you actually have power in the match unless you're on top of pressuring her which isn't something Raiden really does. You're losing from the jump in neutral. So when are you going to gain an advantage?
Electric Fly into the corner and then start my mix-ups. Raiden is strong there. Your reasons are logical though. I don't know, i haven't faced many Frosts, but the ones I have do not give me any problems. The only characters that scare me (on casual level of skill opponents, mind you, not talking highest competitive level) are Scorpion, Geras, and Kung Lao.
Trust me a good frost isn't letting you get a fly off. You're going to have to earn that corner and idk how you do it
Does Frost have an answer to Raiden's superior mobility though? I was thinking about this today and it dawned me that I am scared of Scorpion and Kung Lao because they can quickly get close to Raiden, especially in the case of Scoprion, if he does his teleport when we do ours, he very often wins. Frost, on the other hand, has a hard time getting in on a good Raiden. She doesn't have anything like Jacqui's dash punch move so she has to rely on jumping and forward dashing.
She has a normal that's basically the same as dash punch. Fast mid screen high that's safe on block but with more pushback and range with no hurtbox. You're only scared of scorpion teleport because it'll instantly punish the slightest movement into a full combo and you can't ever just do anything. Kung Lao teleport is too slow, needs meter burn to not be easily stopped and also no combo. Raiden teleport is not a threat. It's strictly movement. It doesn't solve anything besides getting out of the corner or making a read against zoning. What is teleporting going to do against buttons you can't contest? Especially with far teleporting taking defensive bar. You're either right next to her or just away from her either way negative unless you caught frost shooting something.
Yeah footsies
Very rare ToT award. I’ve only seen it twice and never had enough time to beat it
Those fuckers hey, initially people told me it was in the krypt so I was digging everywhere in there. Thanks for the heads up!
You’re welcome. Check the requirements in the brutality thread when you get it. It’s not that hard.
