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Literally, who's dumb idea was Towers Of Time?

Benlo

Benlo

PrayforSareena
Towers of time and krypt are thought like an infinite round : you do some towers to go in the krypt, and you need to go in the krypt to get some items to help you to beat the towers of time. And you are supposed to do that again and again.
 
Inspector Q

Inspector Q

Noob
Yeah, it's not bad enough that you have these ridiculous modifiers flying around the screen taking 30% of your health bar every few seconds, but then they make some of the enemies have so much damn health that it feels like you are fighting a brick wall.

On a separate note, why aren't there little story/lore bits in the towers to explain the context of the fights? I know most people probably won't care about that, but I can appreciate when I see some little dialogue boxes explaining the theme of the current tower.
 
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xSkeletonSmasherx69

NOBODY CAN TRULY DEFEAT ME
Test your luck was fun whereas the towers are pretty bullshit. They should balance it by giving you buffs that aren’t consumables. Like the enemies have increased health and damage. Use Johnny’s sunglasses projectile we have given them 4x damage.

Or at least make the stuff hit the enemies too. I feel like such a victim when I get grabbed and then hit by a rocket lol.

I played the multiverse in Injustice 2 and it wasn’t even this bad. It was much more fair maybe it was the gear that made it easier.
 
Ermaculate_Slim

Ermaculate_Slim

We are Many but we didnt make MK11 not one
-Slim finally unlocks stage 2 of Jacqui Briggs Character tower-Slim is excited to finally unlock more Jacqui Gear-Slim cant wait he goes to the towers and studies the awesome prizes in store-slim looks at the requirements to unlock the last 2 towers-

Must do 75 Brutalities and 75 Fatalities

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GLoRToR

GLoRToR

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SUPAHJD said:
If I sound harsh, actually. I'm just taking it back now. I don't care. I no longer can care lol. I get why this game is getting shit on with the Krypt. I didn't touch Towers Of Time because I wasn't a big Multiverse person either but whatever, I saw a few skins I wanted and decided to check it out. It couldn't be that bad.

What in the dumb ass: stupid hard/damn near cheap ass AI is this?

What in the random difficulty curve is this?

What in the dumb ass unlockable, spammy hazards is this?

So, I get done it all. Whatever. I understood that it needs difficulty but I was under the assumption once I finished it, it'd be fine. I'd still get that skin I saw in the preview selection that I wanted. It's all good.

Oh, nope. Sorry. I have to do the three other character towers first. Three more doses of this trash. I might complete this and never touch it again. If you enjoy it, that's cool.
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What you need to understand is that they were bound by contract to complete and release the game by end of April.
They had to fit in some manageable levels of balance both in pve and pvp as well as a fully playable storymode and as few bugs as they could manage.
This is not a finished product.

Good GameAI takes a LOT of work.

The towers will be adjusted and there is a massive compensation patch coming.
 
John Grizzly

John Grizzly

The axe that clears the forest
You don't find it fun to fight an opponent with double your health, missiles flying everywhere, while the screen goes black constantly?

Seriously....I despise this mode. It's not fun. Do people really want to sit down and play a mode that feels like a chore? It would be really nice to be able to get loot drops and HAVE FUN doing so. What a concept, eh?

I finished the Shao Kahn group of towers yesterday. One tower had a requirement of connecting 50 uppercuts before I could start it. The other's requirement was 50 throws. Very fun stuff....

The worst part is, this nonsense mode doesn't help you get better at the game.

Here's a novel idea - HOW ABOUT COMBO CHALLENGE TOWERS?!?!?! SOMETHING ACTUALLY RELATED TO THE GAME THAT IS FUN, SATISFYING AND REWARDING! Not this bullshit that just makes you want to F4 your TV.
 
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xSkeletonSmasherx69

NOBODY CAN TRULY DEFEAT ME
Ermaculate_Slim said:
-Slim finally unlocks stage 2 of Jacqui Briggs Character tower-Slim is excited to finally unlock more Jacqui Gear-Slim cant wait he goes to the towers and studies the awesome prizes in store-slim looks at the requirements to unlock the last 2 towers-

Must do 75 Brutalities and 75 Fatalities

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I thought 50 throws and 50 uppercuts sucked.
 
Vslayer

Vslayer

Juiced Moose On The Loose
Lead Moderator
John Grizzly said:
You don't find it fun to fight an opponent with double your health, missiles flying everywhere, while the screen goes black constantly?

Seriously....I despise this mode. It's not fun. Do people really want to sit down and play a mode that feels like a chore? It would be really nice to be able to get loot drops and HAVE FUN doing so. What a concept, eh?

I finished the Shao Kahn group of towers yesterday. One tower had a requirement of connecting 50 uppercuts before I could start it. The other's requirement was 50 throws. Very fun stuff....

The worst part is, this nonsense mode doesn't help you get better at the game.

Here's a novel idea - HOW ABOUT FUCKING COMBO CHALLENGE TOWERS?!?!?! SOMETHING ACTUALLY RELATED TO THE GAME THAT IS FUN, SATISFYING AND REWARDING! Not this bullshit that just makes you want to F4 your TV.
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Agreed! Test your might, test your sight and combo challenge towers would be amazing.

And OP, AI. I mean these towers are just for skins and gear and it's not like playing them will make you better because you always have to resort to dirty tactics to trick the input reading AI. Use a 30 rushdown and 30 combo AI character and let them deal with the bs.
 
Hacenit

Hacenit

Hi.
Vslayer said:
Agreed! Test your might, test your sight and combo challenge towers would be amazing.

And OP, AI. I mean these towers are just for skins and gear and it's not like playing them will make you better because you always have to resort to dirty tactics to trick the input reading AI. Use a 30 rushdown and 30 combo AI character and let them deal with the bs.
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There are towers where it's impossible to use AI. I think brutal difficulty doesn't have extra skins, but I can't be sure. The tag fights also don't have it, but they usually don't have the modifiers.
 
John Grizzly

John Grizzly

The axe that clears the forest
SxS626 said:
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Let's stop putting all the blame on Derek here, ok?

As if he wasn't directly told to make these horseshit towers as difficult as possible. This is nothing new. STAR Labs in INJ was trash, MKX modifier towers were not fun and INJ2 Multiverses were a slog, as well. We are only noticing this now because there is gear/skins that we want that can only be obtained in the towers.

I really wish you could just play the god damn game and earn things passively.

Like....every skin and piece of gear has a separate progression meter. Connect 150 uppercuts with Shao Kahn and earn this skin. Perform 50 Fatalities for this helmet.

I just want to play the game as intended. I don't want to deal with the Towers. The store is a joke, too. It's bad enough each skin is $5, but you can't even preview the thing before spending your Time Crystals.
 
Vslayer

Vslayer

Juiced Moose On The Loose
Lead Moderator
Hacenit said:
There are towers where it's impossible to use AI. I think brutal difficulty doesn't have extra skins, but I can't be sure. The tag fights also don't have it, but they usually don't have the modifiers.
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Yeah, I noticed the really hard towers like Jacqui and friends seems impossible for the AI even if you give them good consumables. But if you stick to character towers then they'll blast through them really quickly.
 
pure.Wasted

pure.Wasted

'ello baby, did you miss me?
John Grizzly said:
Let's stop putting all the blame on Derek here, ok?

As if he wasn't directly told to make these horseshit towers as difficult as possible. This is nothing new. STAR Labs in INJ was trash, MKX modifier towers were not fun and INJ2 Multiverses were a slog, as well. We are only noticing this now because there is gear/skins that we want that can only be obtained in the towers.

I really wish you could just play the god damn game and earn things passively.

Like....every skin and piece of gear has a separate progression meter. Connect 150 uppercuts with Shao Kahn and earn this skin. Perform 50 Fatalities for this helmet.

I just want to play the game as intended. I don't want to deal with the Towers. The store is a joke, too. It's bad enough each skin is $5, but you can't even preview the thing before spending your Time Crystals.
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You can preview items by going into the character's tab and looking up the skin by name.
 
Pizza

Pizza

Thrill Kill
Vslayer said:
I like to do it this way, except instead of watching I clean my appartment, take a shower, play with my cats and farm all the hearts. I got like 500 this weekend doing that.
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lol same

I have the game with high volume, so when I hear the "Fatality. X wins", I press the continue button and go back to whatever I'm doing
 
Vslayer

Vslayer

Juiced Moose On The Loose
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Wrenchfarm

Wrenchfarm

Lexcorp Proprietary Technologies
You have to play so differently against the AI to get past some of these towers it's not even a joke.

Oh, did the CPU just whiff a Noob teleport, time for your biggest punish, right? NOPE. Uppercut and then duck to block whatever free-combo projectile is incoming.

Have a mix-heavy rushdown main? Oops, better pick someone else for this fight because you'll freeze if you spend more than 1.5 seconds next to the opponent on this one.

I think ToT has a lot of potential. Things like the uber hard Jade fight was fun because there was some tag-team strats to employ (I only beat it after watching K&M's stream and seeing their hazard avoiding tag tech). I wouldn't even mind some of the crazier modifiers if they didn't hurt so much (I was fighting a tower the other day that had electric floor and it took about maybe 35% health at a time. It was like eating a fatal blow every 8 seconds). Gonna have to wait on that balance patch and hope things get better.

Also, I wouldn't blame Derek for this. He's just the front man. ToT had to have been designed like the rest of the game from the top down, that means meetings, discussions, playtests, and multiple teams coordinating on things. If you think Derek was literally the only guy providing quality testing on that part of the game you are absolutely out of your mind. The state ToT launched in is a fuck up, no question. But it's not fair to hang it all on one guy.
 
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