Kitana General Discussion

[anheirtothethrone11]

Bring back her fan combos !!! It is not Kitana anymore, and it ain't fun at all .... it's pointless to have all those safe strings without being able to connect them into something bigger, since her fan lift is downgraded ...

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

Bring back her fan combos !!! It is not Kitana anymore, and it ain't fun at all .... it's pointless to have all those safe strings without being able to connect them into something bigger, since her fan lift is downgraded ...

Huh?

 

[gibster13]

I’ve played kitana for expletive years, her fans are her coreeeee
Playing her without fan combos feels so strange to me and less fun.

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It’s probs because I was wanting mkx style fam combos, which were soooo fun to pull off and convert with fans.
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Love her look and style but I need fan combos. Even if they just dmg nerf her (not her fans tho) just to keep the fan combo and fluidity.
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She feels alien to me right now and I’m not liking it.

 

[Tanaboon]

If fan lift was tournament legal with the sai, id be a happy man.

I think she'd be in a better spot if they made more variations tourney legal. Her combos are too short and it's definitely foreign not being able to throw the fans in.

 

[chrisisnice]

Guys this may sound weird, but I think her sai variation may be her best option right now. I used it a lot today and the results are pretty good.

This may be true from a game play perspective, but for a Kitana purist like me, this variation is a disappointment and a waste of space like Mournful. Why give Kitana Mileena's moves??? There is nothing in the storyline to say why (quite the opposite).

I think they should have just made this a custom variation move. I think that would be fan service rather than one half of Kitana's variations being a half arsed Mileena.

Anyhoo ... rant over

 

[exflyingbooty]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1121026851714084865

 

[chrisisnice]

OK so I am hoping that custom variations will become legal.

Just been playing around with low fan, ground square wave and Fan Nado (kinda like the Royal Storm one) and she is really fun and feels way more complete!

Love love!

 

[Fractured_Shadow]

Huh?

He is referring to her fan being -1 on hit now

Guys this may sound weird, but I think her sai variation may be her best option right now. I used it a lot today and the results are pretty good.

Sai cancels are legit. None are plus but a majority of them are safe. 12 sai cancel is nasty. It costs a bar but you gain it back quick. Mixing it up with throws or gutted is a nasty mind game.

Sai throw is better than you think, especially when you mix it up with fans. Very good on oki as well. The best setup I have so far is after a fan toss in combos. Her knockdowns don’t provide enough advantage to set up a sai throw safely up close.

Her Edenian razors are annoying to deal with. Safe at -6 but I found a way to make it even more safe..all the way up to +10. We all know you can hold it but if you hold it long enough during strings or oki, and let it go just as it’s about to hit, you would’ve already recovered just as they block it and the most I’ve gotten up to is +10, which jails into S1. Trying to figure out a way to utilize this more because +10 is a VERY big deal.

The damage is obviously weaker but it more than makes up for it with her staggers, cancels and pressure.

I noticed the +frames on razor delay yesterday but Im just having a hard time with the sai tracking... It kinda blows... Plus I REALLY like the projectile absorb and fan buff from her first variation.

I just wish I could substitute something for her ground fan

 

[MkPeezy]

What are yall using for AA? Her d2 seems janky

 

[Samsara]

What are yall using for AA? Her d2 seems janky

Her uppercut is sluggish imo. Maybe I'm just used to characters with decent ones.

 

[Joy Boy]

What are yall using for AA? Her d2 seems janky

I haven’t labbed AA but in a few matches online I was using b2. Swipes them right out but the only follow up is fan lift.

 

[gam224]

I did some work in the lab with anti airs. D1 works from a distance and as an anti cross up. Immediately cancel it into lift and you can get a single jp into a string.

 

[7L]

I did some work in the lab with anti airs. D1 works from a distance and as an anti cross up. Immediately cancel it into lift and you can get a single jp into a string.

You're gonna eat Jump in kicks all day if you try to d1 as an anti air

 

[gam224]

You're gonna eat Jump in kicks all day if you try to d1 as an anti air

You have to use it at max distance. D2 is her best anti air Rn which is pretty sad.

 

[anheirtothethrone11]

Let's see .... she lost combo potential, she's easily outzoned by pretty much half of the cast , cause of her shitty fan toss recovery ( Skarlet, Baraka, Sonya , Liu Kang ... ) .. What is that she gained ? Maybe those buffs look nice on paper , but those are useless without her being able to confirm via fan toss, lift ... from a character that was '' combo queen '' given , she lost lot of her charm , and it's not her anymore. Hopefully , they'll fix that up in some of the next patches .

Patience is a virtue, we' ll see ....

 

[Fractured_Shadow]

Let's see .... she lost combo potential, she's easily outzoned by pretty much half of the cast , cause of her shitty fan toss recovery ( Skarlet, Baraka, Sonya , Liu Kang ... ) .. What is that she gained ? Maybe those buffs look nice on paper , but those are useless without her being able to confirm via fan toss, lift ... from a character that was '' combo queen '' given , she lost lot of her charm , and it's not her anymore. Hopefully , they'll fix that up in some of the next patches .

Patience is a virtue, we' ll see ....

Her projectile absorb helps a lot with those matchups

 

[anheirtothethrone11]

Her projectile absorb helps a lot with those matchups

Thnx for an advise ... it's not just about effectiveness, I mean she's viable and all ...it's about visual appeal and fluidity of her strings , which is endangered with this patch ... I love to enjoy my gameplay . She's stuck with repetitive short strings, etc ... I'll try to be more positive , suppose it's too early to judge . A lot of stuff could change

 

[wndrboy2k3]

Did anyone else notice they changed Amplify fan toss to both highs? Like how much nerfing did she really need?

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

Did anyone else notice they changed Amplify fan toss to both highs? Like how much nerfing did she really need?

I’m ok with losing that and a bit of damage while gaining safety, honestly I think they handled her very well.

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

As for anti airs I think her d2 is actually amazing, the hitbox on it is extremely high

 

[Edmund]

Maybe it’s just me, but I’d prefer her having MKX combos with Mk11 damage . I just want the swag and conversions

 

[Rozalin1780]

My 2 cents:

Kitana has traditionally been a character you just don’t go into the air against. “She rules the air” has been the rule of thumb. I feel like this isn’t the case anymore. Without the threat of air fan conversions, people just aren’t as threatened as they used to be when jumping in on her. Eat a fan? No big deal. Add to that the loss of rising fans and she lost a reliable anti-air that also lead to conversions. Imo, she shouldn’t have a good anti-air normal — because the opponent shouldn’t be in the air in the first place.

 

[gibster13]

fucckkkk I just don't like how she plays and it hurts me, I want them to change it

Also, why is exfan (second fan) a mid ?????

Edit

Why isn’t it a mid*

 

[DaFroski88]

Found a crazy corner combo with Kitana with b+1 4 fan lift ji2 2 1 df2 it also does krushing blow for a good amount of damage.

 

[xKhaoTik]

fucckkkk I just don't like how she plays and it hurts me, I want them to change it

Also, why is exfan (second fan) a mid ?????

It’s not a mid. It got changed to a high