Recreating your situation, black adam constantly back dashing on record, and then trying to time the reset worked a few times.
Mid-screen? Yes, if you hit them on the right "spot" it is absolutely inescapable. You can test this by putting the AI on duck and if it hits, it means you performed the grab in that 1-3 frame window that makes it inescapable. I've attempted it a few times against opponents who knew I was going for it and they simply ducked and punished my grab attempt...but then later on down the road I would go for it again and it would connect and they would inform me that were ducking.
Damn it, there is always a pot of shit at the end of the rainbow ... I guess setting the AI on constant backdash is not working correctly. You are right, when I recorded a perfect mb freeze into mb freeze, I couldn't duck or jump, but backdashing worked. Sad day.
Girl...you have mentioned over 5 times that you are in Jamaica. Now you are drunk posting on TYM WHILE on vacation...welcome to my world!!
And yes, I co-sign your sentiment.
You have been so instrumental and hard at work finding us the best tech...don't be gloom. I commend your efforts.
Heh, thanks. I'm not gloom, more like mad. NRS were like " Guys, let's give KF a 1 frame link reset, but make it full combo punishable if they mess it up. But wait, they might be able to do it every now and then, let's allow the backdash to escape it, that will be fair."You have been so instrumental and hard at work finding us the best tech...don't be gloom. I commend your efforts.
Back dash? I thought mid screen you could not escape it if you landed the grab in the appropriate frames?
I thought so. I was certain I got it to work a few times as well midscreen. Its great if you have trait charged up and they've already used their clash.
lol. I was wondering when he was gonna venture out from under his bridge. Didn't know he was banned!
I can't get it to work. Recording with KF doing perfect links that you can't duck or jump, I can still backdash ...
In regards to the thread I'm thinking about making, is this something you'd like to see? In this thread I would list all the max damage combos for the first combo (from each relative starter) and then provide the max damage combo after the MB Freeze reset. I would also show, in video format, where exactly you need to kick the opponent to land this. Yay? Nay?
Hmmm...I thought it was confirmed that if you hit the 1-3 frame spot, the grab would work against back dashes.
Yes to this. Especially the part about showing where on each character. I can get it on some (MMH is the easiest for me) but others are difficult. And then they go and change their skin and sometimes the spots i use to aim my attacks are moved or not there anymore. The max damage output would be icing on the cake!
By whom? And is there any video?
Its just delaying the grab. Instead of canceling from j1 you hit then grab. But this opens you up for when they duck. Its just a mix up if you think thell back dash just slide
Yeah delaying the grab beats backdash. It sounded like there was a frame that beats all options. I guess we can't get anything but mix ups, but this is a hard link and is punishable, would have been nice if there was such a frame, oh well.
So....is it even worth it to go for this tactic then?
Actually, against some characters at least, we recover from our command throw before they recover from their backdash. I haven't tested to see if we get a character specific punish in the corner, but I know in a mirror match and versus green lantern we're at least at positive frames for a d1 check if they back dash the command throw.
Holy shit, confirmed punish on lex luthor backdashing to escape the j1~flash freeze reset in the corner. It's a trap!
It sounds like a real "waste" of time learning the point of each character when j1 hits, and even then it's not easy to do so every time. It's good for mixing up ppl, and many won't expect it. I will probably learn it, I prefer to have many techs up my sleeve than to be a linear player.
Hmm, I gotta test this. I'll be right back.
I recorded Frost performing the j1~freeze reset on lex and I just mashed 1. Then I played back the recording, backdashed the set-up, but Lex's backdash didn't recover quickly enough so I was bopped by 111. So it seems like the j1~freeze reset is a character specific trap in the corner. Now to compile a list of victims. The best part is he's better off eating the command throw. He takes less damage and I spend a meter, but if Lex backdashes he eats 40%+ meterless.
lol that is the true scumbag in me. Can't wait to meet you at UFGT.Girl...you have mentioned over 5 times that you are in Jamaica. Now you are drunk posting on TYM WHILE on vacation...welcome to my world!!