General/Other - Jax Jax General Discussion

[God Confirm]

After the F21 before the 124 they can be at a certain height and if they are not at the right height the command grab will not work.

So i understand if they are too low, but does it also whiff if they are too high? Or will it always connect if I get it fast enough

 

[Manticore]

You could try this combo. starterxxbf2d ,11, d1, f212, 124 xx quad slam. Should be about 44%. If you feel the last 2 in f212 didn't hit them high enough you can always do d1d2xxquad slam as Ender.

 

[Indecisive]

So i understand if they are too low, but does it also whiff if they are too high? Or will it always connect if I get it fast enough

If they are too high the 124 could miss after the f212. Its weird.

 

[God Confirm]

If they are too high the 124 could miss after the f212. Its weird.

Yeah, this is what I was finding yesterday while practicing it, just wanted you to confirm that it wasn't my imagination because I wasn't sure. It was definitely feeling like it was easier to connect 124 after F212 if I didn't juggle them too high, but has to be high enough to connect it. Damn strange, I'll work on it, have you got it consistent?

And whats the highest damage alternative to that?

 

[Indecisive]

Yeah, this is what I was finding yesterday while practicing it, just wanted you to confirm that it wasn't my imagination because I wasn't sure. It was definitely feeling like it was easier to connect 124 after F212 if I didn't juggle them too high, but has to be high enough to connect it. Damn strange, I'll work on it, have you got it consistent?

And whats the highest damage alternative to that?

just end in Gotcha grab instead. Its better for characters with WU's that you can stuff. Since Gotcha is more plus on hit.

 

[God Confirm]

just end in Gotcha grab instead. Its better for characters with WU's that you can stuff. Since Gotcha is more plus on hit.

Luckily for me I end in Gotcha half the time by accident anyway, so no issues there!

 

[God Confirm]

If they are too high the 124 could miss after the f212. Its weird.

So I've wrapped my head around it, its all about making that F212 connect as low as possible for the last hit to go through. Really unituitive, but the trick I'm finding is after starter~DDP F21 juggle, you need to press the 11 to connect when they are about head height (maybe slightly later on faster monitors) and then pump out an F212 and you get a good juggle for 124 Quad Grap. I've got it semi-consistent now, getting it about half the time which is good enough for me at this stage (day 2 Jax) I'll get it more consistent with time. Good thing is you can end all midscreen combos with it too, its a nice 2-3% added so not turning that down!

Corner +52% or 51% on bar
B34xxbf2d,d1,11,b34xxEXgotcha,11,11xxquadslam.
Corner+40% no bar
b34xxbf2d,d1,11,b34xxquadslam.

Just pointing out, that first one is a lot easier if you just remove the D1 and it does the exact same damage.

Whats the best way to spend bar to increase the overhead? B2~DDP, F21, 11, B34~EX-Gotcha, 11, 11xxQuadGrap got me 52% but is really tight, any alternatives?

 

[God Confirm]

For people who have trouble with that 55% pumped up jax combo, you can do b2 overhead into s4 ex overhead instead to replace the b34 for easier execution. its 53 which is 2 percent less but it's better than dropping it period.

What's the 55% inputs?

 

[Osagri]

B2xxbf2d,b34xxEXbf2d,f212,124xxgotcha. U can do 63% or 64% if u replace 124 to gotcha with 111 EXgroundpound

 

[Etoroguy]

Jax received a huge damage nerf in the beta, just a heads up to all you Jax mains.

 

[God Confirm]

Jax received a huge damage nerf in the beta, just a heads up to all you Jax mains.

What are we looking at?

 

[IrishMantis]

Jax received a huge damage nerf in the beta, just a heads up to all you Jax mains.

Is it true Jax can now combo cmd grab off F3 on hit now?

 

[Indecisive]

Jax received a huge damage nerf in the beta, just a heads up to all you Jax mains.

Its like 3-4%
His d1d2 is also -5 now

 

[IrishMantis]

Its like 3-4%
His d1d2 is also -5 now

Nice

No more flip kick punishes
Is the F3 buff true?

 

[Indecisive]

Nice

No more flip kick punishes
Is the F3 buff true?

WHAT. I didn;t check

 

[Etoroguy]

Exbf2d, f21, 11, f21~dbf1 does 31%

I haven't checked to see if f3 into grab connects on hit but I'll test that tomorrow.

Wrestlers combos do 4-5% less which may not seem large but it sure adds up. Also I tried doing 123~law cancel, 123~bf2(ex)d then do f21 but everytime it drops. I don't know if it's just me but I hit that all the time before.

 

[IrishMantis]

WHAT. I didn;t check

Trepound said it in his stream that F3 combos into cmd grab on hit

 

[Etoroguy]

On a side note. In the ggpo netkode, Jax's BNBs are a lot easier. But no more 50% 1 bar combos. Did they touch any pumped up specific stuff.

 

[Indecisive]

Exbf2d, f21, 11, f21~dbf1 does 31%

I haven't checked to see if f3 into grab connects on hit but I'll test that tomorrow.

Wrestlers combos do 4-5% less which may not seem large but it sure adds up. Also I tried doing 123~law cancel, 123~bf2(ex)d then do f21 but everytime it drops. I don't know if it's just me but I hit that all the time before.

4%. That does hurt.
that law combo works/ I was doing it consistently.

 

[Etoroguy]

4%. That does hurt.
that law combo works/ I was doing it consistently.

Okay the timing must be different thanks

 

[Indecisive]

On a side note. In the ggpo netkode, Jax's BNBs are a lot easier. But no more 50% 1 bar combos. Did they touch any pumped up specific stuff.

I think the nerf is too OH dash punch damage scaling.

 

[SamZ]

Exbf2d, f21, 11, f21~dbf1 has always done 31 though, right?

 

[Indecisive]

Exbf2d, f21, 11, f21~dbf1 has always done 31 though, right?

It did like 35% IIRC

 

[Etoroguy]

Didn't it do 35% before or something like that?

 

[Etoroguy]

I think the nerf is too OH dash punch damage scaling.

Yeah and I think the command grab scales more in combos too because It felt like pumped up's combos only lost a couple percent. But I can't remember how much my combos did. So I could be wrong.