Tech - Cyrax Isn't this broken?

[C88 Zombieekiler]

just put pre patch tanya in the game

tarkatan

 

[Gafar_NN]

And if you attack cyrex, it's game over for him. So he have only one way to win, with this shit. Cyrex low tair char. Without armour reversals, characters in mkx, so much usless

 

[Wigy]

its actually around +3 not much but yea

Considering everything but f4 gets lowprofiled this is near useless

 

[xxFalcon Loverxx]

And if you attack cyrex, it's game over for him. So he have only one way to win, with this shit. Cyrex low tair char. Without armour reversals, characters in mkx, so much usless

Ummm......





No.
Reasons: You hit cyrax once, he still has armor on wakeup, cyrax still has the mindgame on wakeup that he has armor, and if he hits the armor, you're dead, you're just dead.I don't even need to explain why the opponent is dead once cyrax touches him

 

[Gafar_NN]

Ummm......





No.
Reasons: You hit cyrax once, he still has armor on wakeup, cyrax still has the mindgame on wakeup that he has armor, and if he hits the armor, you're dead, you're just dead.I don't even need to explain why the opponent is dead once cyrax touches him

Armor bait easy, and you can back dash from this hard blockble, or if you smoke, like me, just smoke forward. Cyrex player skill, mast be mach higher to win some one. Or you can show me some video were cyrex completely dominating, I will glad for it

 

[xxFalcon Loverxx]

Armor bait easy, and you can back dash from this hard blockble, or if you smoke, like me, just smoke forward. Cyrex player skill, mast be mach higher to win some one. Or you can show me some video were cyrex completely dominating, I will glad for it

Yes, but he has much more that that, he has guaranteed mixups that lead to a full 40% shich have htbs insife them.



I don't have ps plus, if i can get a game against a friend, i'll pick cyrax and try to dominate him and post it here.

Also the low bomb b2 thing, if the opponent is caught in the net high enough, he cannot backdash or armor.

 

[QUAN-FUSION]

Ummm......





No.
Reasons: You hit cyrax once, he still has armor on wakeup, cyrax still has the mindgame on wakeup that he has armor, and if he hits the armor, you're dead, you're just dead.I don't even need to explain why the opponent is dead once cyrax touches him

Ummm...
Cyrax doesn't have an armoured wake up.

 

[Asodimazze]

Ummm...
Cyrax doesn't have an armoured wake up.

His ex teleport has armor on wake up...

 

[The_Tile]

Yeah, hes a contender for worst in the game without his setups. Literally only good asset is great meterless damage. He gets 0 on block 50/50s for a bar which is good but half the cast have only moderately negative 50/50s meterless. Dropped him for this reason, in mk9 without his resets his footsies were still godlike.

He can use ExFarGroundBomb to make his 50/50s launching and plus 7 iirc and the in game frame data is correct, there is a gap between though.

Considering everything but f4 gets lowprofiled this is near useless

You enforce your plus frames with a poke then when you've got them blocking you go for another 50/50, not useless at all.

 

[xxFalcon Loverxx]

Ummm...
Cyrax doesn't have an armoured wake up.

Ex teleport

 

[Eldriken]

I find it amusing that the folks here on TYM are apparently to blame for all the nerfs/buffs. How do we know that Paulo wasn't gonna change the shit regardless of what we said?

Things have been taken AND added that NO ONE asked for. That ought to be a clue that our voice(s) doesn't necessarily dictate what does/doesn't get changed.

Some of you guys need to seriously lighten the fuck up.

 

[I GOT HANDS]

I find it amusing that the folks here on TYM are apparently to blame for all the nerfs/buffs. How do we know that Paulo wasn't gonna change the shit regardless of what we said?

Things have been taken AND added that NO ONE asked for. That ought to be a clue that our voice(s) doesn't necessarily dictate what does/doesn't get changed.

Some of you guys need to seriously lighten the fuck up.

im sure he doesnt just mindlessly do whatever he sees asked for the most on the forums, however you are crazy if you can't see the correlation between a lot of the stuff that was complained about heavily and the immediate follow up patches

 

[Reaper]

To anyone asking about the combos that i posted, look in the OP video and you will that all the options have been tested. The combos that i posted work for anything besides an actual throw because the throw whiffs, leaving cyrax standing, and I answered the question about if they actually take a throw. The 111 net was one sample starter you can do it off other combos that end in net

 

[Eldriken]

im sure he doesnt just mindlessly do whatever he sees asked for the most on the forums, however you are crazy if you can't see the correlation between a lot of the stuff that was complained about heavily and the immediate follow up patches

I'm sure some of what gets brought up here is taken into consideration. It would be foolish of me to think otherwise.

 

[QUAN-FUSION]

Ex teleport

Lol my bad.

 

[Wigy]

He can use ExFarGroundBomb to make his 50/50s launching and plus 7 iirc and the in game frame data is correct, there is a gap between though.



You enforce your plus frames with a poke then when you've got them blocking you go for another 50/50, not useless at all.

Cyraxs d1 gets low profiled by other d1's d3's and his

He can use ExFarGroundBomb to make his 50/50s launching and plus 7 iirc and the in game frame data is correct, there is a gap between though.



You enforce your plus frames with a poke then when you've got them blocking you go for another 50/50, not useless at all.

His d1 gets low profiled by other pokes. Not sure if his d3 reaches you could be right there

 

[STRYKIE]

Yeah, the inclusion of this in FR is bizarre. I don't buy at all that "oh, but the patched characters are basically whole new characters as well!"- argument that was made.

Adjustments made to characters that have been in the game for a long time, been strenuously play tested, had massive amounts of player feedback and observable tournament results.....

Those changes are in no way the equivalent to the addition of poorly tested DLC characters.

You sure about this? Cause I'm pretty sure if I gave you and everyone else who is tooting this tune a questionnaire on Spectral Ermac (a variation who has been in the game since day 1 and has not received any metagame altering changes in over 6 months), not many people would even get 50% of the answers right.

 

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

I'm patiently waiting for NRS to patch in a command grab for Cyrax.

Spoiler

He needs it.

I would 100% gleefully give up all of this broken crap to have B121 back .

Make the bombs hit Mid, NRS.
Half of his most insane swaggish combo setups come from the floating bombs anyway.
Give EX Teleport (it has armor already?) and EX Air Throw armor so he has ways off the ground after a knockdown to compensate.

 

[John Grizzly]

They just need to make falling out of a net a knock down.

Gets rids of a lot of his broken shit

This is the best, most reasonable suggestion I've seen for fixing this issue.

 

[I GOT HANDS]

I'm pretty sure that's what the in-house QA testers are for. The guys that test the game every day. Have you looked at some of Paulo's replies? He doesn't care about what 99% of TYM has to say.

in which case my comment still stands, I didn't say anything about Paulo just that balance patches seem to be directly parellel with TYM's campaigning far too often for it to be coincidental. Whether it's Paulo or QA guys or whoever.

 

[Asodimazze]

he has armor on wake up, it just blows!

It might get stuffed....so what? It's still a more than decent armored launcher on wake up. Some people act like he really lacks armor and that is just false

Also, his armor isn't even too bad.. far from being predator or Quan Chi level.

 

[Map the Soul]

Think I'm taking a little time off of TYM

 

[Krabman]

compare it to good armor moves not shitty ones..lol. how bout compared to Lao, Reptile, Sub Zero, CSZ, Mileena, Jax and the list goes on.

and why does almost every character in this game have Standing armor. and when he loses resets and such, he doesn't? fuck that

Well his armor launches which is nice... I wouldn't mind givng him a faster/better reversal if it doesnt launch. (Assuming he's already fixed)

 

[Reaper]

Proof that the setup i was doing does work:

Also the only way to escape:

 

[Asodimazze]

Proof that the setup i was doing does work:

Also the only way to escape:

And after hitting he can easily reset the combo again using the bomb into throw...good lol

Nice videos