Did it? Or is that sarcasm? I cant really tell, and I cant tell if that change for BlAdam was that big of a deal.Woah woah woah, Black Adam's trait is now +3 on hit instead of +6. That took him from Top 5 to Top 20 at least
Yeah, I was joking. I honestly don't know why they even bothered with that change it seemed so insignificantDid it? Or is that sarcasm? I cant really tell, and I cant tell if that change for BlAdam was that big of a deal.
Please stop the Red Hood cryingGet over it.
At least you have some idea how your mu chart has changed. My character literally lost his entire meta.
That's the "ruined" option.The poll is kinda bullshit because the only options are “ruined” and “top tier”. What if I think she’s neither?
Same as when Catwoman got her walk speed nerf dude. Instant Bottom 1 character.Woah woah woah, Black Adam's trait is now +3 on hit instead of +6. That took him from Top 5 to Top 20 at least
You can mash after f12trait now when the grab would beat it before and more trait cancels are negative.Yeah, I was joking. I honestly don't know why they even bothered with that change it seemed so insignificant
Yea for example 113 trait is now like +19 instead of +22, what a huge nerfYou can mash after f12trait now when the grab would beat it before and more trait cancels are negative.
I think F12 trait is was something like +16 so you're right.Yea for example 113 trait is now like +19 instead of +22, what a huge nerf
(i don't know actual frame data, i'm just making bad jokes)
I think she does fine against batman, she’s better at AA’ing him then most, she builds more meter full screen, cat evading every batarang, her footsies are stronger. Arrow is one of the few MU’s I think she loses if it’s played correctly on his part. WoWo does well, but they both hold their own against each other. Cold can be waited out now imo, the first bar of meter is just crucial against cold, I feel like it’s 6-4 to whoever gets the first touch lol as for manta, I think she could go 5-5, his neutral is great but hers is also, it really comes down to reads I feel like against him also.I think shes still very good, she isnt top 5 anymore but shes still top 10, probably like 8-10. But she has strugglesome mu's now. WoWo and Manta being the obvious losing mu's now and Cold, Arrow, And Batman giving her some trouble as well. But other then that she is still a good character, she just lost her dumb stuff, she's is fine now.
I'm sorry, I don't recall implying that CW was bottom tier now. This is absolutely fucking hilarious how many self-righteous upplayers lose their shit at the idea that this character may have been nerfed disproportionately hard. Calm your shit guys, now you won't have nightmares about getting outfootsied by a CW main because you couldn't hold a little mix. You're fucking deluded if you think CW was a character that anyone could play and beat other more experienced players free. Chill tf outCause this whole thread is bullshit.
No one is implying it was free, but she was top 3 pretty free. No. 1 for a lot of people.I'm sorry, I don't recall implying that CW was bottom tier now. This is absolutely fucking hilarious how many self-righteous upplayers lose their shit at the idea that this character may have been nerfed disproportionately hard. Calm your shit guys, now you won't have nightmares about getting outfootsied by a CW main because you couldn't hold a little mix. You're fucking deluded if you think CW was a character that anyone could play and beat other more experienced players free. Chill tf out
Remind me what the title of this thread is? You know, the one you're trying to rationally defend?I'm sorry, I don't recall implying that CW was bottom tier now. This is absolutely fucking hilarious how many self-righteous upplayers lose their shit at the idea that this character may have been nerfed disproportionately hard. Calm your shit guys, now you won't have nightmares about getting outfootsied by a CW main because you couldn't hold a little mix. You're fucking deluded if you think CW was a character that anyone could play and beat other more experienced players free. Chill tf out
33b2 is completely and utterly useless now. 1f2 is now -2. B3 is half as good as it was. Combos do significantly less damage. Is CW mid/low tier? Probably. you tell me
I like how you are just flat out lying and acting ignorant.I'm sorry, I don't recall implying that CW was bottom tier now. This is absolutely fucking hilarious how many self-righteous upplayers lose their shit at the idea that this character may have been nerfed disproportionately hard. Calm your shit guys, now you won't have nightmares about getting outfootsied by a CW main because you couldn't hold a little mix. You're fucking deluded if you think CW was a character that anyone could play and beat other more experienced players free. Chill tf out
Just stop crusty.Get over it.
At least you have some idea how your mu chart has changed. My character literally lost his entire meta.
First of all, no one "acts" ignorant, second of all, i'm not lying. I didn't have any legitimate evaluation of the character at the point that the patch had just been released, and I suspected that these nerfs made her Mid tier. For that matter, mid/low tier is not even CLOSE to the same thing as bottom tier. You're so caught up in your own inadequacy that you're taking your anger out against a character and against others who defend that character. Step back for a minute and realize that your anger isn't because these nerfs were legitimate and completely justified because CW was the most broke character you've ever seen, and that it's just because you're free.I like how you are just flat out lying and acting ignorant.
Worst thread of the year and dumbest rationale. Delete this it makes tym look bad. At least the voters are not if the same dna.33b2 is completely and utterly useless now. 1f2 is now -2. B3 is half as good as it was. Combos do significantly less damage. Is CW mid/low tier? Probably. you tell me
Wow P2W, "Worst thread of the year and dumbest rationale" sounds like a pretty fucking circular argument. Explain to me how the fact that her actual best tools got super nerfed is a "dumb rationale" for a character to move down several tiers. Also who the fuck gives a shit if TYM looks good or not, this community is toxic and looks like shit to anyone anywayWorst thread of the year and dumbest rationale. Delete this it makes tym look bad. At least the voters are not if the same dna.
I didn't realize J2 and her back dash got nerfedWow P2W, "Worst thread of the year and dumbest rationale" sounds like a pretty fucking circular argument. Explain to me how the fact that her actual best tools got super nerfed is a "dumb rationale" for a character to move down several tiers. Also who the fuck gives a shit if TYM looks good or not, this community is toxic and looks like shit to anyone anyway
You are making yourself look really foolish. And for a fact if Low tier doesn’t imply bottom tier and I don’t know what does. And pls admitting that u were quick to jump to conclusions in calling characters Low tier isn’t good on ur image either.First of all, no one "acts" ignorant, second of all, i'm not lying. I didn't have any legitimate evaluation of the character at the point that the patch had just been released, and I suspected that these nerfs made her Mid tier. For that matter, mid/low tier is not even CLOSE to the same thing as bottom tier. You're so caught up in your own inadequacy that you're taking your anger out against a character and against others who defend that character. Step back for a minute and realize that your anger isn't because these nerfs were legitimate and completely justified because CW was the most broke character you've ever seen, and that it's just because you're free.
Her j2 did get nerfed 2 patches ago boi, and yeah her backdash was untouched but the shit that did get touched this patch is more valuable IMO
I actually could give two shits about my image, I'm just trying to have a discussion with a bunch of people who are so caught up in their own stubborn dispositions that they wont be open to the idea that NRS fucked up. How the fuck can you be pretentious on an online community of FGC players anyway? jesusYou are making yourself look really foolish. And for a fact if Low tier doesn’t imply bottom tier and I don’t know what does. And pls admitting that u were quick to jump to conclusions in calling characters Low tier isn’t good on ur image either.
33 is -1, 2D2 is plus 1, this character's pressure did get nerfed, but it's still thereHer j2 did get nerfed 2 patches ago boi, and yeah her backdash was untouched but the shit that did get touched this patch is more valuable IMO