Sirius Jones
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Im not saying he not top tier he is.IMO 5th but what im saying is people are saying nerf him for what?Kung Lao is in fact top tier folks. Problobly the most balanced top tier but still top.
Im not saying he not top tier he is.IMO 5th but what im saying is people are saying nerf him for what?Kung Lao is in fact top tier folks. Problobly the most balanced top tier but still top.
I'm not asking for a specific nerf or buff, but I know plenty about te game to talk about it.For the love of god. crusty I love you but please stop posting about balancing when you don't own the game.
I think he's perfectly fine. You can tell. EVERYONE had a tempest Lao. Now like 4 people use him. 2 people don't even use him as their main. His ji2 is a little absurd but that's it. Nerf anything else and he'll be bottom tierpeople still think tempest lao is top?
This might fuck with the other variations' utility from that string though, the reason why he recovers so quickly after certain blockstrings into hat spin that don't jail is because of how fast he recovers after deploying the hat on first impact. Let him keep the same advantage on block but increase the time before he can actually start moving again.Reduce jump 2 hitbox and decrease cancel advantage on b321 so every character can punish him for doing ex orbiting hat.
how can you make b321xxreghat armorable by moves slower than 16f?This might fuck with the other variations' utility from that string though, the reason why he recovers so quickly after certain blockstrings into hat spin that don't jail is because of how fast he recovers after deploying the hat on first impact. Let him keep the same advantage on block but increase the time before he can actually start moving again.
Its -19 not 28 , regular is -25 , ex should be without pushback so you can punish it easier, i think lao is fine otherthan his dumb ji2.dude, -28 isnt enough? lol...
ex hat is fine at +12 you only have d4 as a frame trap, other things are armourable / pokable
Tempest is ridiculous, not just for the fact that he's better than most everyone else, but the fact that his gameplay is nothing but a giant guessing game. There needs to be a guaranteed way out of his stagger pressure for a reasonable price because you can't make his staggers reactable, so they should make block breakers 1 bar, and since this would technically buff him as well, he would need to take a hefty damage nerf to balance him. That on top of the fact that grabs are going to be reactable soon should make him really balanced and less guess reliant.I wouldn't nerf tempest since I think he is totally fine as is, any more nerfs and he will be completely destroyed
You're suggesting a nerf that could completely ruin the character his damage is fine , it got reduced 3 times , he really doesn't need any nerfs other than ji2.Tempest is ridiculous, not just for the fact that he's better than most everyone else, but the fact that his gameplay is nothing but a giant guessing game. There needs to be a guaranteed way out of his stagger pressure for a reasonable price because you can't make his staggers reactable, so they should make block breakers 1 bar, and since this would technically buff him as well, he would need to take a hefty damage nerf to balance him. That on top of the fact that grabs are going to be reactable soon should make him really balanced and less guess reliant.
Because to be fair quan has alot more dirt ie : + 50/50s that jail. 50%+ meterless and 61% for just a bar a vortex that can go into like 6 fucking diffirent ways , the best zoning in the game etc etc it just seems that summoner is way more dirty on paper.I don't understand some people. Tempest is known by all to be the strongest variation in the game yet a lot of people are saying it's fine the way it is. Then you have characters like summoner, which is also a great variation but not as good as tempest, and everyone says it needs to be nerfed....
How would it ruin the character if he's arguably the best in the game? 1 bar block breakers wouldn't nerf him because he gets them too, so he would have to take a damage nerf. He still has very good damage on top of his ridiculous pressure and armor breaking. J2 is fine. You can armor through it and anti air it without meter. If that gets nerfed it'll just be icing on the cakeYou're suggesting a nerf that could completely ruin the character his damage is fine , it got reduced 3 times , he really doesn't need any nerfs other than ji2.
yeah that's buzzsaw / hat trick spin, Tempest ex spin is -28 and regular is -25Its -19 not 28 , regular is -25 , ex should be without pushback so you can punish it easier, i think lao is fine otherthan his dumb ji2.
You can only armor if you do a slow move , ie b3 or b2 and you're completely missing the point , jump back 2 shuts down any forward advancing normal its anti footsie tool also in this game everyone gets a bar really easily , just leave him be without the unneeded nerfs you asked for.How would it ruin the character if he's arguably the best in the game? 1 bar block breakers wouldn't nerf him because he gets them too, so he would have to take a damage nerf. He still has very good damage on top of his ridiculous pressure and armor breaking. J2 is fine. You can armor through it and anti air it without meter. If that gets nerfed it'll just be icing on the cake
My bad , i only looked at buzzsaws spin frames , still though it has pushback when it shouldn't.yeah that's buzzsaw / hat trick spin, Tempest ex spin is -28 and regular is -25
Don't know what you mean, how can you not armor j2 with a fast armored move? J2 is not what makes Kung Lao ridiculous. His completely guess based oki game no one can get out of without getting a very lucky guess is what makes him ridiculous. If every character was buffed to his level the game would be much worse because of how guess heavy he is for huge reward. A 4-6% damage nerf would put him in A+ tier, no lower, as long as there's a reasonable way to get out of his block pressure with 1 bar block breakers. If his J2 gets nerfed on top of that he'll still be A+. It makes no sense why a character this ridiculous shouldn't get nerfed.You can only armor if you do a slow move , ie b3 or b2 and you're completely missing the point , jump back 2 shuts down any forward advancing normal its anti footsie tool also in this game everyone gets a bar really easily , just leave him be without the unneeded nerfs you asked for.