That's the problem you moron, he has no zoning and he needs it for the reasons I've given. Even Kung Lao has a zoning tool, but does he need it? Hell no. Cryo needs the meter gain and some other form of offense than punishable 50/50s.Your comparing cryo to zoners , cryo is not a zoner at all
He can be a punisher, but that's not enough to make him viable. HQT is a zoning character with pressure, Kung Lao is a pressure character with zoning and counter zoning, Kobu Tanya is a pressure character with zoning, etc. Cryo is not as weak as Unbreakable, but Unbreakable is the bottom of the barrel, so that's not saying anything. Cryo is not tournament viable in his current state, that is undisputable, and I'm telling you what he needs to change that.He's not rushdown or a pressure character , he's a punisher and that's it , if it wasn't for the damage he would be considered as weak as unbreakable
Your posts are unfathomably stupid and toxic. You have no idea what you're talking about. Giving him a projectile does not make him a zoner, it's giving him a zoning tool which is what he needs to be viable. You haven't given a single reason why he doesn't need it or what he should get instead to fix his problems of having no meter gain while being meter dependant for his damage and has no reliable way to open the opponent up. Ignored.But he's not a zoner kid , if you want to zone pick another character , if you don't like cryo don't use him , ur asking the completely change a character from the way he was designed , that sounds pretty moronic to me
He's A- at best, but closer to B+. The buffs I listed would at least get him to A tier I'm sure, which is somewhat tournament viable but not enough to win it all by himself. Unbreakable is Jason tier, absolutely worthless, but you can still win with him obviously. The point is that Cryo is not viable because of the problems I listed. No good way of safely opening you up, extremely meter dependent with no meter gain, and pokes are too slow and short range for his play style. He needs a poke that is both long range and fast.He's not useless he's quite a powerhouse
However he's largely outclassed by Reptile, Cassie and Jax
That's why MOS Ermac is great too, oh wait...He's already cheap enough with his easy af 40 + % combos and that fuckin b2 you almost can't react to, fuck him
That kinda happens quite often he has no meter building or projectile game at range, it definitely kinda feels like a big hole in the characters game, if he had something similar to Kanos knives but made of ice he'd be niceMy point is that's not the buff he needs , I can't remember the last time I was losing with cryo and thought " if only I had another projectile!"
Exactly. Finally someone with some common sense.That kinda happens quite often he has no meter building or projectile game at range, it definitely kinda feels like a big hole in the characters game, if he had something similar to Kanos knives but made of ice he'd be nice
Joker had the best player communityYes its not as good as grandmaster because grandmaster instant wins the neutral
What it does have over grand master though is consistent damage every where
Grand master lives for the corner
If he can't maintain the corner he struggles (not saying its hard to get and keep the corner)
I'm just saying cryo is more well rounded across the stage
And ex hammer is NOT a mix up tool
Its your combo extender and hard read for armour
You already have b2 and b3
Yes b2 is borderline reactable
But you have to be focused 100% on that which means you're doing absolutely nothing but watching for it
Play cryo as a defensive footsie character and he does super well
Run in yolo 5050s works at the lower levels, but any decent player will punish your run in
Can we take a moment to appreciate this salty post?He's already cheap enough with his easy af 40 + % combos and that fuckin b2 you almost can't react to, fuck him
Cuz nobody else has a fast overhead and easy damage.Can we take a moment to appreciate this salty post?