Hot Take: Third variations will have little to no effect on the meta

[Chernyy Volk]

An absolutely garbage disaster patch.

 

[Trustful_Whale]

Exactly. We are nerfing moves before they even have a chance to be a problem?

This has been happening since the reveal event.

 

[kcd117]

This has been happening since the reveal event.

Not really. Geras was bonkers in the reveal and he still managed to get the some huge buffs lol. In fact, Geras is probably the most buffed character in this game so far lol.

 

[Chernyy Volk]

This update might be the worst patch I've ever seen for a FG.

Tech and playstyle variety potential is at an all time low.

You still can't compete at the highest level if you aren't an auto-shimmy/oki-throw/9-11f mid character

Most of these new variations are certified garbage

Movement is still broken and completely destroys the neutral game

Jumping is still too good and completely destroys the neutral game

This game is literally auto-shimmy/oki throw/fast mid turn based Kombat. We're playing toned down MKX. It's baffling to me that NRS are really into this game as it stands. It's legit the worst fighting game I've ever played and it drives me even more nuts people on this site and elsewhere are gobbling it up when it could be so much more. The game feels really minimum effort.

 

[Trustful_Whale]

Not really. Geras was bonkers in the reveal and he still managed to get the some huge buffs lol. In fact, Geras is probably the most buffed character in this game so far lol.

Raiden got everything cool about him nerfed before the game released.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

This update might be the worst patch I've ever seen for a FG.

Tech and playstyle variety potential is at an all time low.

You still can't compete at the highest level if you aren't an auto-shimmy/oki-throw/9-11f mid character

Most of these new variations are certified garbage

Movement is still broken and completely destroys the neutral game

Jumping is still too good and completely destroys the neutral game

This game is literally auto-shimmy/oki throw/fast mid turn based Kombat. We're playing toned down MKX. It's baffling to me that NRS are really into this game as it stands. It's legit the worst fighting game I've ever played and it drives me even more nuts people on this site and elsewhere are gobbling it up when it could be so much more. The game feels really minimum effort.

Worst patch ever for a fighting game?

We’ve had infinitely worse patches just in MKX and Injustice alone. Come on dude.

I get that you have some issues with the game, but this looks beyond desperate now.

 

[Gamer68]

It's legit the worst fighting game I've ever played and it drives me even more nuts people on this site and elsewhere are gobbling it up when it could be so much more.

Worse than all past MKs -- including MK4?

Worse than Injustice 1?

Worse than launch SFV?

Worse than MvCI?

Worse than Smash Brawl!?

Worse than the FGs so bad we can't even remember them?

I have my problems with the game, but I don't think it's THAT BAD.

 

[Dankster Morgan]

This patch is nowhere near the worst NRS patch. Takeda getting buffed about 30 times in the same patch to god tier, Deadshot going from top tier to shit in 3 changes, or I remember the shit storm in MKX back when Quan was still broke as shit and instead of getting nerfed he got a 6 f d1.

 

[Edmund]

I will never forget all the hell everyone went through with Tanya being released and all the emergency nerfs they did to her
Just to do it again with alien

 

[CrimsonShadow]

I will never forget all the hell everyone went through with Tanya being released and all the emergency nerfs they did to her
Just to do it again with alien

Yeah, people are really looking at MKX through rose-colored glasses.

 

[DeftMonk]

I was so hype for this patch until I saw in the patchnotes kung lao gets vortex vortex now replaces hat spin,

 

[Pterodactyl]

I feel like the Meta of a game changes over time naturally anyways. Adding some new variations could potentially give characters new answers to the current meta, which would then force a shift. So yeah, I think it'll change the meta. Probably not going to turn the game on it's head or anything, but it'll have an impact for sure.

This seems obvious and it’s jarring that he made the thread anyway.

 

[Derico]

Im worried this game will die premature...

Im having fun with friends, we are hardcore players, but i can feel why the pros are upset.

Almost forgot, want a fuc**** solid neutral game? Play Samsho! What a game!

Mk11 is what it is.

 

[Jynks]

this thread hasn't aged well.

 

[MagicMan357]

Cry babies looking real dumb now

 

[Dayvon]

I wasn't able to watch the stream. Were there a good amount of 3rd variations ?

 

[dribirut]

Hey George stole the show!

 

[sprintz98]

I wasn't able to watch the stream. Were there a good amount of 3rd variations ?

Yeah, I saw third variations for kung lao, frost, kabal, johnny cage, geras, liu kang, kano, and even shang tsung. Arctic anarchy Frost performed the best out of all the third variations I saw. Seems to be her strongest variation.

 

[LawAbidingCitizen]

Yes there where plenty of 3rd variations but my favorite was:
Frost AA Tweedy
Speed Demon Kabal
Jaded and Outtake Sonic
Outtake Kombat
3rd Baraka
And many more
Even though KP lost his Jaded was pretty hype

 

[LawAbidingCitizen]

Gonna go out on a limb here and say this Hot Take didn't age well.
I knew even without the patch the meta changes naturally over time but even adding variations of mediocre abilities would no doubt change the meta. But it turns out many of the 3rd variations are very good almost every single one is viable.
My favorite is Final Judgment Terminator

 

[MagicMan357]

@LawAbidingCitizen once again you have to understand most of these people are legit idiots. How can the meta not change when you added something to it? Its self explanatory.

 

[kcd117]

I’m surprised I didn’t see Buluc Kotal. I think that variation is OD and was expecting it to be used a lot in this tournament.

 

[LawAbidingCitizen]

I’m surprised I didn’t see Buluc Kotal. I think that variation is OD and was expecting it to be used a lot in this tournament.

It was

 

[kcd117]

It was

My bad then. I didn’t see it on stream a lot. That variation is nuts.

 

[LawAbidingCitizen]

My bad then. I didn’t see it on stream a lot. That variation is nuts.

I don't think many of them where on stream, so that makes sense. I only seen one on stream.

Ps do you have an XB1?