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Has NRS silenced the Mortal Kombat 1 critics?

Has NRS silenced the Mortal Kombat 1 critics?


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Vulgar

Kombatant
And by "most" you mean only the FGC, and even then it's not true. The Kameos have no issues at all, they are implemented exactly as they should be. As being an algamation of the Variation system and MK11 assist Konsumables, they are done exactly as they need to be. And if they do go in MK1 that's not because they are "bad" but because NRS/WB would try something new, and maybe they will comeback in MK13 but just in an expended form, just like MKX had the Variations and MK11 had the Kustom Variations



Nope, not at launch either. SF6 and Tekken 8 had multiple issues at their launch also, and MK1 has the most friendly monetization out of all the big 3. Not only MK1 has no battle pass like the other 2, but SF6 also charged skins for 15% and also COLORS (not full skin bundles) for 24$, and these were colors from a series of 3, meaning you had to pay 24$ each, essentially paying the cost of an entire other game, 72$, just to get all 3. And Tekken 8 also tries to implement loot boxes (real ones, not RNG boxes that cost in-game currency that you can earn by just playing, but these that cost real money) progressively.

Saying that MK1 monetization is "aggressive" when SF6 and Tekken 8 doing this shit is beyond crazy.

And of course, no rooms because no one used rooms in MK11 after year 2, and no one other than the super hardcore FGC will ever use practice matchmaking, even SF players don't always use it, so why NRS/WB should do it? Waste of time and money.
No I think the vast majority of monetization in video games is pretty fucking dumb. You're arguing with the wrong guy on that one. Lol
 
No I think the vast majority of monetization in video games is pretty fucking dumb. You're arguing with the wrong guy on that one. Lol
That's your own fault then, not the fault of the game. You need to take any case as it's own, not just go "oh there is monetization and I need to pay for things a price higher than 2 bucks so it's bad", this is just dumb.

Who else would I be referring to? lol

And you’re free to believe the Kameo system is perfect if you want, I couldn’t care less ¯\(ツ)
Which is why it's not "most people", the majority of players for MK1 are single player guys, sporadic casuals and standalone online warriors outside of the FGC. Even in the FGC there are lot's of players that love the Kameos.

All I did was correcting you.
 

LEGEND

YES!
I tend to agree with most of this, but we can also admit that the things the Heat system allows you to do plus wall/floor breaks can lead to some very....uh, we'll say "snowballing" matches, no?
Yeah for sure. There's definitely room for improvement and many nerfs are needed.
 

Vulgar

Kombatant
That's your own fault then, not the fault of the game. You need to take any case as it's own, not just go "oh there is monetization and I need to pay for things a price higher than 2 bucks so it's bad", this is just dumb.



Which is why it's not "most people", the majority of players for MK1 are single player guys, sporadic casuals and standalone online warriors outside of the FGC. Even in the FGC there are lot's of players that love the Kameos.

All I did was correcting you.
Good lord, we got a straw man here! Whoo!

Let me know when you're done shadow-boxing a version of me that only exists in your mind.
 

Juggs

Lose without excuses
Lead Moderator
Which is why it's not "most people", the majority of players for MK1 are single player guys, sporadic casuals and standalone online warriors outside of the FGC. Even in the FGC there are lot's of players that love the Kameos.

All I did was correcting you.
What is with the reading comprehension issues on this website? Obviously I’m not referring to those who think the game is perfect or don’t have issue with the game. You can’t possibly be as dense as you’re pretending to be here.
 

Eldriken

Life was wasted on you.
What is with the reading comprehension issues on this website? Obviously I’m not referring to those who think the game is perfect or don’t have issue with the game. You can’t possibly be as dense as you’re pretending to be here.
I'm really beginning to think it's just one huge act, which is just sad. Dude says he took writing classes and doesn't even know the difference between "it's and "its." Claiming you took writing classes and you can't even get basic grammar down pat just fuels the fire of people calling you a liar, which has already started in his case.

Tom needs to just hang it up.
 

Vulgar

Kombatant
I'm really beginning to think it's just one huge act, which is just sad. Dude says he took writing classes and doesn't even know the difference between "it's and "its." Claiming you took writing classes and you can't even get basic grammar down pat just fuels the fire of people calling you a liar, which has already started in his case.

Tom needs to just hang it up.
Honestly, Tom is the best thing that ever happened to me on this site.

I'm COMPLETELY off the hook!
 

LEGEND

YES!
I like Drive Rush in sf6 a lot @LEGEND lol
I'd go as far as saying that the drive mechanics are objectively bad and beyond fixing. There would have to be some very jank exceptions to their usability in place or something. No PP wakeup, No DI near the wall at some vague instance of resources or - frames, no DR cancel on certain buttons, or a more individual, tailored frame data adjustment on their use.

They are all fun to execute but heavily reduce the complexity of the game and lower the skill ceiling.

The negatives are innumerable and well discussed elsewhere.

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I'll go even further and say that universal mechanics outright, are objectively bad and only serve to homogenize and limit Fighting Games.
 
What is with the reading comprehension issues on this website? Obviously I’m not referring to those who think the game is perfect or don’t have issue with the game. You can’t possibly be as dense as you’re pretending to be here.
Hey, that's not my fault that you used the term "most people".

I'm really beginning to think it's just one huge act, which is just sad. Dude says he took writing classes and doesn't even know the difference between "it's and "its." Claiming you took writing classes and you can't even get basic grammar down pat just fuels the fire of people calling you a liar, which has already started in his case.

Tom needs to just hang it up.
I think it's you who needs to check his grammar, judging by this comment. Just saying.
 

SaltShaker

In Zoning We Trust
No, because the game is still dogshit and there are no good reasons to play it over SF, Tekken, or GG or pretty much whatever other fighting game is out there. They're all still miles and miles better.
Ah, yes. Down kick, drive rush, strike/throw. Throw loops that see even the best players in the world getting thrown 5 times or more in the corner.

Truly the peak of fighting game design.

Let's not forget Wild Assault in GGS. Don't ask any top GG players how they felt about that. Or how Season 4 was received.

Poor Tekken. Half their community was arguing with the other half about going back to T7. And @SaltShaker can tell you all about how bananas the heat system can get.

Point is, every game's got something obnoxious about it, including MK.
This Kal person is smoking the good stuff. Say whatever about MK but the SF6 players and tourney scene are about to go full 1776 revolution RIGHT NOW about how much they hate the game and the drive system. It's probably the most complained about thing right now in the FGC.

I like Drive Rush in sf6 a lot @LEGEND lol
Keep playing. I have a strong feeling in a few months you'll feel very differently about that comment.
 

ImpostorOak

Goro is a Pokémon
This Kal person is smoking the good stuff. Say whatever about MK but the SF6 players and tourney scene are about to go full 1776 revolution RIGHT NOW about how much they hate the game and the drive system. It's probably the most complained about thing right now in the FGC.



Keep playing. I have a strong feeling in a few months you'll feel very differently about that comment.
I just hate Modern. I like gatekeeping children and brainlets.
 

Juggs

Lose without excuses
Lead Moderator
Hey, that's not my fault that you used the term "most people".
Yes, most people who are critical of the game tend to recognize what the real problem is. Idk what is hard to understand about that. I mean you can disagree that the Kameo system isn’t the problem, but that’s completely irrelevant lol
Honestly, Tom is the best thing that ever happened to me on this site.

I'm COMPLETELY off the hook!
Tom is Roy Akron btw, if people remember who that is. Just saying lol
 
Yes, most people who are critical of the game tend to recognize what the real problem is. Idk what is hard to understand about that. I mean you can disagree that the Kameo system isn’t the problem, but that’s completely irrelevant lol

Tom is Roy Akron btw, if people remember who that is. Just saying lol
Well then I appreciate the clarification. That being said, calling it "the real problem" is not true either. You are saying that as if it is a problem objectively, which is not. You could've just simply say that it's the problem for these people specifically.


That right there is all that needs to be said.
 

Kal

<3
This Kal person is smoking the good stuff. Say whatever about MK but the SF6 players and tourney scene are about to go full 1776 revolution RIGHT NOW about how much they hate the game and the drive system. It's probably the most complained about thing right now in the FGC.
Let me guess, you're looking at MenaRD's tweet bitching like he always does when he loses.

Even then, whatever issues people have with the drive rush system, SF6 is still miles better than MK1. It's not even fucking close. From gameplay, to animations, to content, to QoL, to connection, everything about SF6 is better than MK1.

But I don't expect MK only fanboys to understand or accept any of that, which is why we keep getting dogshit, stiff ass games like we've been.
 
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Felipe_Gewehr

Twinktile
You know, when I first joined this site I used to think Vulgar/Rude was in the wrong for being mostly... rude to many posts here. But Jesus Christ, this thread (among some others) makes me feel like some of you mfs don't get called out enough.

It costs zero cents to have an actual discussion explaining why you feel X or Y regarding a topic without being a dick about it. And yes, we are human, we get inflammed sometimes reading things we disagree with and sometimes we communicate it harshly without realizing it (or without caring about it) - that's ok. But we are (or SHOULD be) all adults that can back down a little, give someone the benefit of the doubt and steer the conversation back to a pleasant tone. And again, of course this is easier said than done, but this particular thread has endless pages of escalating bitterness that is honestly a little baffling.

A little less "mean girls" vibe would be great if we want to get our points across.
 

SaltShaker

In Zoning We Trust
Let me guess, you're looking at MenaRD's tweet bitching like he always does when he loses.

Even then, whatever issues people have with the drive rush system, SF6 is still miles better than MK1. It's not even fucking close. From gameplay, to animations, to content, to QoL, to connection, everything about SF6 is better than MK1.

But I don't expect MK only fanboys to understand or accept any of that, which is why we keep getting dogshit, stiff ass games like we've been.
My favorite part about your post is that I'm wrong because I'm an "MK only" fan. :DOGE
 

Juxtapose

Master
Modern is meh, it restricts you from too many paths and outright removes some moves. But it's decent on like Chun Li and Zangief though. For the most part Modern itself gatekeeps people lol.
I find it funny. I've been playing video games for over 40 years now, and every generation complains about "modernization" and how it "dumbs" things down. There is truth to it, mind you, I just find it amusing how the bar keeps dropping.
 

Vulgar

Kombatant
Let me guess, you're looking at MenaRD's tweet bitching like he always does when he loses.

Even then, whatever issues people have with the drive rush system, SF6 is still miles better than MK1. It's not even fucking close. From gameplay, to animations, to content, to QoL, to connection, everything about SF6 is better than MK1.

But I don't expect MK only fanboys to understand or accept any of that, which is why we keep getting dogshit, stiff ass games like we've been.
You can't just say "thing is better because thing is better."

That's not an argument. At all. Gameplay is pretty subjective, especially since a lot of well-known SF6 players seem to be turning on the game, specifically because of Drive Rush and the throw loop metagame.

Animations is - again - pretty subjective. I personally find the DI and DR animations to be suuuuper garish, but that's just me.

Whereas I find MK1's animations to be much easier on the eyes and generally prefer the more restrained(compared to SF6) lighting and effects.

It'd be great if we had something like SF6's Battle Hub and practice mode while queuing, I'll grant you that.

But it also took SF6 like a year to catch up to MK1 in sales, so....
 

Vulgar

Kombatant
Modern is meh, it restricts you from too many paths and outright removes some moves. But it's decent on like Chun Li and Zangief though. For the most part Modern itself gatekeeps people lol.
The way I see it, Modern is a pretty good stepping stone for new players. You start there and you can gradually incorporate more and more of Classic into your gameplay, if you want.

One-button DPs and Supers is pretty wild, tho. Lol