Green Arrow General Discussion Thread

[Red Reaper]

Just wanted to note that d1xx savage blast in the corner can be poked but it results in a trade usually.

Yeah, I know. It's good to point that out. I'm pretty sure D1 into Stinger kan't be poked though.

 

[Scoot Magee]

33 should be used a lot by arrow players this time around. It jails into standing arrow and the range on the second hit is really long.

 

[Devils Britches]

33 should be used a lot by arrow players this time around. It jails into standing arrow and the range on the second hit is really long.

Is the first hit a mid or high? Is his best punishing mid standing 2 or forward 2.

 

[Landonio]

Is the first hit a mid or high? Is his best punishing mid standing 2 or forward 2.

Standing for speed. Forward for range (and a potential mix-up situation if you miss the punish).

 

[weedking]

my thoughts on ga after labbing him:

he is very fun character since he has most tools and so many combos and juggles. lacks a good wake up and fast mid. he can get a lot of damage from every situation and he has 50/50s.

his corner damage and generally corner game is outstanding and he acutally is one of the characters that can do 5 bar combos lol. i did in corner 800+ something. he is viable. goodluck all green arrows

 

[Devils Britches]

my thoughts on ga after labbing him:

he is very fun character since he has most tools and so many combos and juggles. lacks a good wake up and fast mid. he can get a lot of damage from every situation and he has 50/50s.

his corner damage and generally corner game is outstanding and he acutally is one of the characters that can do 5 bar combos lol. i did in corner 800+ something. he is viable. goodluck all green arrows

Got the notations for the 5 bar combo?

 

[Scoot Magee]

33 is a mid at 13 frames, same speed as f2. Second hit jails into standing arrow. Cancel advantage is 40 frames. You can also load a boxing glove after 33 when they respect the arrow.

 

[Harlequin969]

Here's the real question for the arrow forums. Does GA have a hood gear piece?

 

[Dukmunky]

Here's the real question for the arrow forums. Does GA have a hood gear piece?

Yea but it's not available yet

 

[Scoot Magee]

If you're dealing with people fuzzying your f2d13 and f2d1arrow strings you can take advantage of it just like in the first game.

F2d1 xx MB stinger will hit anyone using the fuzzy timing. With Ice arrow equipped you can do f2d1 xx jump back overhead arrow/instant or delayed low arrow. It makes the mixup a bit more ambiguous. It's probably a good idea to find out how your opponent blocks the string from the start of the match.

F2d13 xx hold arrow and walk back a step before releasing low/high is useful for keeping your turn at the end of the string but it can be interrupted. Most do respect it though as they wait to take their turn after the low arrow at the end of the string.

I've been using almost all fire arrows but it's important to mix in ice when you close the distance. I'm going to do that more from now on, I've just been going crazy with the newly buffed fire arrows. Fire arrows are amazing for corner pressure though, maybe better than ice in some ways.

 

[TheGabStandard]

I have recently started messing with Green Arrow in training mode and he seems really fun, a lot of potential to become a solid character so I'm looking forward to learning him more.

One concept idea I found (apologies if this is already known) that midscreen there is enough time to a starter into ice arrow, do MB glove, store it and then connect a B3 to continue the combo. Now midscreen it may not be worthwhile as I am still new to the character but it might be good for some corner combo damage/potential pressure. Just an idea that could be explored

 

[Afrophysics]

Any bad matchups? I'm honestly not struggling with anyone. For rushdown I play more keep away and for zoners I use more pressure. Arrow doesn't seem to lose anything worse than 5.5 - 4.5 anymore

 

[Scoot Magee]

I have recently started messing with Green Arrow in training mode and he seems really fun, a lot of potential to become a solid character so I'm looking forward to learning him more.

One concept idea I found (apologies if this is already known) that midscreen there is enough time to a starter into ice arrow, do MB glove, store it and then connect a B3 to continue the combo. Now midscreen it may not be worthwhile as I am still new to the character but it might be good for some corner combo damage/potential pressure. Just an idea that could be explored

Yeah, the timing on that is a bit tight. For some reason after a freeze the game doesn't let you pull out an arrow right away.

 

[chores]

@Scoot Magee do you have any matches you could upload? im just wading into GA and would like to observe some

 

[Scoot Magee]

@Scoot Magee do you have any matches you could upload? im just wading into GA and would like to observe some

I'll record a few matches and post them. I'm still learning myself, I'd like to see what some others are doing as well.

On another note, B2 cancel advantage is listed at 54 frames. I'm looking forward to testing that later. 33 grants arrow load at -1 and that's at 40 frames cancel advantage.

 

[Red Reaper]

Any bad matchups? I'm honestly not struggling with anyone. For rushdown I play more keep away and for zoners I use more pressure. Arrow doesn't seem to lose anything worse than 5.5 - 4.5 anymore

Aquaman still seems like his worst match up.. We kan now play the game a bit against him so against impatient Aquaman players, I kapitalize on their mistakes, but he's still pretty broken....

Also, I noticed that as an Injustice 1 Arrow player, even bad match ups don't seem that bad because I'm used to worse match ups from the last game. That's probably why you don't see any bad match ups.. lol. I'm sure other Arrow players kan relate too. We've been hardened by our previous low tier status.

 

[Afrophysics]

Also, I noticed that as an Injustice 1 Arrow player, even bad match ups don't seem that bad because I'm used to worse match ups from the last game. That's probably why you don't see any bad match ups.. lol. I'm sure other Arrow players kan relate too. We've been hardened by our previous low tier status.

I agree. Part of it is now it only takes 3 ice arrow combos to close the round instead of the previous 5

 

[Mr FiF]

anytips????

 

[TheGabStandard]

anytips????

Only had a quick view but the one thing I will say is when you have land a Ice Arrow you have enough time to load another arrow before doing a B3. Make sure to do that in your BnBs so you don't have to sacrifice damage to load an arrow at the end.

 

[Nexallus]

anytips????

Hopefully your screen is in game mode, I could hear a tiny bit of delay, but that may just be because of the online.

 

[Legion DC]

Any bad matchups? I'm honestly not struggling with anyone. For rushdown I play more keep away and for zoners I use more pressure. Arrow doesn't seem to lose anything worse than 5.5 - 4.5 anymore

Did you fight any great Cyborg players?
I played a great Cyborg with my Green Arrow and couldn't do jack!

 

[Paul the Octopus]

Aquaman still seems like his worst match up.. We kan now play the game a bit against him so against impatient Aquaman players, I kapitalize on their mistakes, but he's still pretty broken....

Also, I noticed that as an Injustice 1 Arrow player, even bad match ups don't seem that bad because I'm used to worse match ups from the last game. That's probably why you don't see any bad match ups.. lol. I'm sure other Arrow players kan relate too. We've been hardened by our previous low tier status.

What makes Aquaman hard, out of curiosity? Seems like you might be able to reversal slide punish a lot of from the deeps, or at least get free reloads?

 

[TheGabStandard]

Yeah, the timing on that is a bit tight. For some reason after a freeze the game doesn't let you pull out an arrow right away.

yeah I found that a bit strange the first few times I was trying it.

 

[Scoot Magee]

yeah I found that a bit strange the first few times I was trying it.

I honestly have a really hard time getting anything to combo after a freeze if I load a boxing arrow. The cooldown time to pull out an arrow makes the timing really awkward.

I mentioned earlier that the frame data says the cancel advantage on b2 is 54 frames. I don't think that is actually correct.

 

[TheGabStandard]

I honestly have a really hard time getting anything to combo after a freeze if I load a boxing arrow. The cooldown time to pull out an arrow makes the timing really awkward.

I mentioned earlier that the frame data says the cancel advantage on b2 is 54 frames. I don't think that is actually correct.

the timing I found to load the boxing arrow is to do it as soon as the opponent stops moving/is fully frozen. It is then a little tight to store into B3 but it can be done, or maybe it will be more lenient in the corner as you cam combo into something else.

What was the results of your B2 testing?