For Honor

[GAV]

Warden.

Warden is very good, but with items on its Peacekeeper.

The reason is that NO ONE gets Debuff Resistance, so her bleed ends up being super effective.

 

[GAV]

can someone confirm or de-confirm if there are characters in this game that move farther back when getting parried than other?

The only character that stays out of range of guard broke when parried attacks is the Nobushi.

 

[Tokiwartoothxdk]

The only character that stays out of range of guard broke when parried attacks is the Nobushi.

and thats the character i was talking about too. well, her and kensei. thanks for the confirmation

 

[freerf245]

Warden is very good, but with items on its Peacekeeper.

The reason is that NO ONE gets Debuff Resistance, so her bleed ends up being super effective.

1v1s dont have gear. Peacekeeper is also very effective though you could use both

 

[freerf245]

and thats the character i was talking about too. well, her and kensei. thanks for the confirmation

Shugoki Nobuhi and Kenseis range make it difficult to punish with guardbreak after a parry

 

[Evil Canadian]

can someone confirm or decomfirm if there are characters in this game that move farther back when getting parried than other?

The only character that stays out of range of guard broke when parried attacks is the Nobushi.

Nobushi, Kensei heavy attacks, Lawbringer attacks, Shugoki heavy attacks(occasionally), and Valkyrie heavy attacks will all put you out of parry ->guardbreak range.

 

[Juggs]

Nobushi, Kensei heavy attacks, Lawbringer attacks, Shugoki heavy attacks(occasionally), and Valkyrie heavy attacks will all put you out of parry ->guardbreak range.

Yeah, luckily with Warden against these characters, I get a zone attack after parry, it's better than nothing.

 

[Evil Canadian]

Yeah, luckily with Warden against these characters, I get a zone attack after parry, it's better than nothing.

how dare you mention anything lucky for the warden they have enough luck

 

[Evil Canadian]

Also I haven't really been salty in this thread so ill just say this

why the fuck do I play kensei im a goddamn idiot DON'T PLAY KENSEI

leaving your guard resting at top effectively shuts down the class as everything hes got coming from the sides is too damn slow.

 

[Juggs]

how dare you mention anything lucky for the warden they have enough luck

Well I main Warden because he's super fun and also easy to use, so it's lucky lucky me!

 

[Baconlord]

history is written by those who don't get thrown off cliffs

 

[UPR_Nova]

OK I'm gonna admit I'm a nub, however, someone must give me the logic behind zone attacks. Maybe I'm missing something but the focus on these attacks has led me to think well...that I've missed something! Frame advantage, to me, should only be expressed in what is guaranteed. For example, I already know every light attack (possibly heavy) comes out in the same frames but explain to me the significance and the need to concentrate on zones and zone cancels. If I personally run that strat, it's an easy escape for my opponent but my TRUE mixup works. The stuff that is true stagger (heavy, wait, assess situation).
Please, if I'm overstating call me out, I'll totally understand. Otherwise, explain to the best of your ability please.

 

[UPR_Nova]

OK I'm gonna admit I'm a nub, however, someone must give me the logic behind zone attacks. Maybe I'm missing something but the focus on these attacks has led me to think well...that I've missed something! Frame advantage, to me, should only be expressed in what is guaranteed. For example, I already know every light attack (possibly heavy) comes out in the same frames but explain to me the significance and the need to concentrate on zones and zone cancels. If I personally run that strat, it's an easy escape for my opponent but my TRUE mixup works. The stuff that is true stagger (heavy, wait, assess situation).
Please, if I'm overstating call me out, I'll totally understand. Otherwise, explain to the best of your ability please.

Edit: please don't dominate me too hard for asking this lol

 

[UPR_Nova]

I love quoting myself btw

 

[GAV]

Also I haven't really been salty in this thread so ill just say this

why the fuck do I play kensei im a goddamn idiot DON'T PLAY KENSEI

leaving your guard resting at top effectively shuts down the class as everything hes got coming from the sides is too damn slow.

Kensei is a beast when well played on Dominion.

The reason is that if he uses his overhead attack from his opponent's side, it can't be blocked; it must be parried. With an edge in numbers, its a very fast way to kill. Even if its a 2v2, he can turn the tide quickly just by switching dance partners.

 

[freerf245]

Conq gets a free guardbreak if he blocks a heavy or zone attack? Whaaaaaaat?

 

[Darumm]

Also I haven't really been salty in this thread so ill just say this

why the fuck do I play kensei im a goddamn idiot DON'T PLAY KENSEI

leaving your guard resting at top effectively shuts down the class as everything hes got coming from the sides is too damn slow.

Not really, unless you are playing conqueror or parrying his attacks, blocking his heavy does not stop the chain, from wich he gets a lot of mixups.
from the unblockable top heavy you can cancel into:
Side light attack (without the cancel button)
Armored side heavy (without the cancel button, which can canceled again with the cancel button)
Grasping Pounce (forward dash + GB)
Helm Splitter (forward dash + light attack) (top)
Swift Strike (side dash + Light Attack)

If your opponent is parrying you can try to mess his timing with feints.

Of course your opponents can shut you down, but its not THAT easy.

 

[CrazyFingers]

Conq gets a free guardbreak if he blocks a heavy or zone attack? Whaaaaaaat?

Shhhh don't tell people that. They'll start doing it.

 

[GAV]

Conq gets a free guardbreak if he blocks a heavy or zone attack? Whaaaaaaat?

Conq shines in Dominion. He's not as good in 1v1, but he's solid in 1v1. This is his best 1v1 tool. Without it, he wouldn't be very viable.

 

[GAV]

 

[CrazyFingers]

I need to play more Conq. I might be under valuing how good he is in 1v1. Have I mentioned my Raider is OD? Cuz it's pretty OD.

 

[Basic Stupidity]

Conq gets a free guardbreak if he blocks a heavy or zone attack? Whaaaaaaat?

Shhhh don't tell people that. They'll start doing it.

It's confirmed a glitch and he pretty much gets a free gb after blocking anything enjoy it while you can. The same is with berserker and lights

 

[Basic Stupidity]

who do you think is the best one on one character in the game

Peacekeeper. She has the fastest moves and is plus on block with most of them plus her gb is going to be fixed and she'll do crazy damage off of gb again which means good punishes as well. She's got the best mixeups and is generally always either safe or plus. She's got a side dash attack and has good damage

 

[freerf245]

It's confirmed a glitch and he pretty much gets a free gb after blocking anything enjoy it while you can. The same is with berserker and lights

What do you mean same with berzerker? Does he punish lights? I know both of their lights are unsafe and they are fixing that but I haven't seen anything about Conq punishing heavies.

 

[Basic Stupidity]

What do you mean same with berzerker? Does he punish lights? I know both of their lights are unsafe and they are fixing that but I haven't seen anything about Conq punishing heavies.

Berserkers only a little different and it's only for light as far as I am aware. No the way they worded the patch notes is all weird but basically what they meant was they were getting rid of the free gb that berserker and conqurer gets after blocking a light attack. I've been punished using heavies against conq but I don't remember if it was a free gb.