FIX his J2

[pfiidud3]

I take supergirl over batman.

 

[neveradestroyer]

And we're now calling for nerfs based on a Batman multiverse boss...

No nerfs... Buff the Joker.... That's was the post all about....

 

[Misky]

Why is it when anybody brings up BATMAN'S bullshit in a BATMAN thread, people are quick to point to other characters?

You may totally be right and Deadshot may be a bullshit factory of his own, but right now we're in a thread were people are seriously pretending that Batman's J2 is the only thing making him viable.

Thanks Idubbz. If you didn't say this I would have.

 

[xInfra Deadx]

You'll get nothing and you will like it.

 

[Dankster Morgan]

There's no reason to nerf Batman if you don't also nerf Deadshot, Supergirl, Red Hood, Catwoman, and Darkseid

 

[Two First Names]

He is literally the Poster boy of WB. He's always going to be Solid the way Scorpion is Solid in MKX.

Scorpion was garbage in igau and I've heard he was garbage in MK9 too

 

[Zionix]

No character in a modern nrs game should have a restand into a 50/50 that jails on block into even more pressure.

If batman needs buffs elsewhere to compete then so be it; but it is completely ridiculous to defend what IS without a doubt the most braindead plus on block 50/50 in this game.

If you are going to defend batman as well, remember not every character has a 6-8 frame d2 to contest his trait and other nonsense.

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

bro its getting damm annoying playing any batman player 40% restand into a mix up crossup. that j2 needs a nerf . that thing crosses up but it didnt count as a crossup. pretty dumb. his j2 is 50/50 by it self.

people laugh at me but i have played vs batman more that most of this community since forever king is in my scene... and ya not even he knows where it hits everytime. sometimes i block it correctly as a cross up then they appear in front. sometimes i block as a cross up... it says cross up... and i still got hit. that is rare but it does happen. it is bc how wide the hit box is on the move.

 

[BanTheTesters]

I just went to the Joker multiverse against boss Batman.... I will just say this... Joker needs serious buffs... Batman outclasess Joker in every department... Make joker MB projectile mid... Make His parry parry lows and when MB to do allow combo extension please... If I had to deal with the unreasonable Batman bullshit.... Better give Joker some dirt too...

Some of the joker community have been saying this since INJ2 launch and cats were calling him "mid tier"..its more then likely never going to happen..but its a nice thought lol

 

[Boss Savage]

As a Batman main:

- J2 left/right mixup is stupid, especially with a safe gapless launcher follow up (223)
- Trait is a little much, hitstun is too long and recharge time is too fast considering that it never goes away

Personally, I feel like the jump 2 defines the character, similar to Superman F23, Aquaman trident rush, etc. The character needs to be toned down along with the rest of the top 10ish. But let's not go overboard and destroy a character's identity.

One of my friends mains Batman. If i was to change anything, make it so his J2 stays on the same side as it hits, His bats no longer charge while he has one out, and make a couple strings unsafe. Nothing stupid. Just make them like -2 or something. A lot of his strings are nuetral, which makes it even harder to punish him even when he has 1 bat out. I understand that the character is defined by his trait and J2. But it's just too much to deal with right now.

There's no reason to nerf Batman if you don't also nerf Deadshot, Supergirl, Red Hood, Catwoman, and Darkseid

Darkseid? Really?! Why? And besides the chip on MB lunge, what needs to be nerfed on RH? Catwoman needs her hitboxes fixed that's really it, and Deadshot really only needs his up close nerfed. Sure, his zoning is obnoxious, quick shot is too quick, his meter build is stupid, and the pushback on his mb specials are a little too much. But ultimately he's not that bad.

This game, despite it's current flaws with some of the high/low tier characters, is actually pretty damned balanced.

Honestly maybe after the 3rd patch or so I think the game will be pretty stable for a while. If the way NRS' is handling the game so far is any inclination as to what's to come? Then I'm confident that they'll balance everything we'll enough to keep most people happy. That's my 2 cents.

 

[Eldriken]

There's no reason to nerf Batman if you don't also nerf Deadshot, Supergirl, Red Hood, Catwoman, and Darkseid

What could they possibly nerf about Darkseid that would be justified, much less needed?

But to be on topic, I do agree that something needs to be done about Batman's j2. It shouldn't have the properties that it has.

 

[Kooron Nation]

J2 50/50, 12 (+4), b113 (frame trap), release trait, j2, 12 (+4), b11 mb batarang (plus a billion), j2...........when's it my turn

 

[Boss Savage]

J2 50/50, 12 (+4), b113 (frame trap), release trait, j2, 12 (+4), b11 mb batarang (plus a billion), j2...........when's it my turn

When you anti ai... Never mind. Just hold it I guess.

 

[SaucyD0ge]

J2 50/50, 12 (+4), b113 (frame trap), release trait, j2, 12 (+4), b11 mb batarang (plus a billion), j2...........when's it my turn

Backdashes anyone?

 

[Zionix]

Backdashes anyone?

I backdashed and got jp2'd before I could recover.

I backdashed and got hit by F3 after 12 while holding trait.

I backdashed and the batman popped trait and dashed forward into another trait jp2

 

[honeybooboo]

I honestly have no issue with j2.
Hey if i get opened up i get opened up.im free oh well, match is up in like 4 minutes ok next match
.... But let me tell you somethin about these robin players... Cmon bro... Your minus 10 bro

 

[Invincible Salads]

*sigh*

 

[Brain-main]

-the moment when the supergirl player is whining about batman-

Yeh smugly inquires as to why people could possibly hate supercunt.
Then whines about another..

 

[Dankster Morgan]

What could they possibly nerf about Darkseid that would be justified, much less needed?

But to be on topic, I do agree that something needs to be done about Batman's j2. It shouldn't have the properties that it has.

I think Darkseid doesn't need to hit quite as hard as he does considering how much he gets off of a 50/50, albeit unsafe.

 

[Jugghead]

and make a couple strings unsafe. Nothing stupid. Just make them like -2 or something.

-2 is not unsafe. Its safe.

 

[Jugghead]

J2 50/50, 12 (+4), b113 (frame trap), release trait, j2, 12 (+4), b11 mb batarang (plus a billion), j2...........when's it my turn

I agree there's a lot to be held there, but its hard to hear that from a Catwoman player. She can contest J2 with D2 and her tiny hurtbox, and she has an unreal backdash and B3 to contest gaps. Both of which low profile a lot of attacks.

Contesting J2 and getting out of pressure can make a big difference given the opposing character.

 

[Dankster Morgan]

One of my friends mains Batman. If i was to change anything, make it so his J2 stays on the same side as it hits, His bats no longer charge while he has one out, and make a couple strings unsafe. Nothing stupid. Just make them like -2 or something. A lot of his strings are nuetral, which makes it even harder to punish him even when he has 1 bat out. I understand that the character is defined by his trait and J2. But it's just too much to deal with right now.



Darkseid? Really?! Why? And besides the chip on MB lunge, what needs to be nerfed on RH? Catwoman needs her hitboxes fixed that's really it, and Deadshot really only needs his up close nerfed. Sure, his zoning is obnoxious, quick shot is too quick, his meter build is stupid, and the pushback on his mb specials are a little too much. But ultimately he's not that bad.

This game, despite it's current flaws with some of the high/low tier characters, is actually pretty damned balanced.

Honestly maybe after the 3rd patch or so I think the game will be pretty stable for a while. If the way NRS' is handling the game so far is any inclination as to what's to come? Then I'm confident that they'll balance everything we'll enough to keep most people happy. That's my 2 cents.

Darkseid should get a slight damage scale increase, nothing too bad, and like I said, only if those others are effected. Deadshot should have B12 hit mid and make it more unsafe or just make F2 a mid. Red Hood and CW, you said it yourself, Batman id make it where he can't recharge bats if he has bats out. I'm not saying that any of these characters need drastically overhauled. None of the characters in this game are really that ridiculous. It just blows my mind how people think Batman needs nerfs but not Deadshot, Catwoman, or Red Hood.

 

[M.D.]

You will never stop it:

https://testyourmight.com/threads/how-do-you-stop-batmans-insane-j2.31050/

Don't even dream someone will nerf it.

 

[Kooron Nation]

I agree there's a lot to be held there, but its hard to hear that from a Catwoman player. She can contest J2 with D2 and her tiny hurtbox, and she has an unreal backdash and B3 to contest gaps. Both of which low profile a lot of attacks.

Contesting J2 and getting out of pressure can make a big difference given the opposing character.

Her d2 is godlike but she curls up and has a weird hitbox and at least 80-90% of the time it literally either whiffs or at best trades with his j2 even if I can see the future and know for sure he's gonna jump.
Also his f3 is a 50/50 cross up anywhere on the screen against her since her hurtbox is wonky so sometimes it hits behind since he goes over.

Still she is probably one of the better characters against him, he can get away with being lame and zoning though which is irritating

 

[KiD INsAnitY]

Nahhh