Safe hit confirmable 50/50s that lead into high damage seemed like a pretty good reason to pick him for me , not saying that he was better than gunslinger obviously , just that he wasn't as irrelevant. The outlaw change just seems like a (soap bar in my mouth) idea they thought of it and they just put it in like that , there's still no reason to use ex db4 over ex sg unless I'm missing something and you can jail it off of strings ex sg can't
It's hardly a 50/50 when his overhead is 23frames. This patch is pretty much enough to make me drop my Marksman solo main and play Kenjutsu lol (just cuz he's more fun). You know what other moves are faster or the same speed as Erron Black's overhead? 2 Jason Down1s, Sandgrenade, Sand gust to name a few. Even Shoto characters from Guilty Gear and Blazblue (Ky and Ragna) have reactable special cancellable Overheads (Greed Sever and Gauntlet Hades) which are quicker than this.
EDIT2: Someone pointed out the post Im responding to was referring to pre-patch F1. My apologies. Rant about shitty F1 still stands though
EDIT: The point Im trying to make with the comparison to anime fighters is that SF and Anime fighters were originally designed always so that the overhead is alot slower since characters in anime have like 5-9frame lows. Whereas MK was fairly notorious for its unreactable 50/50s
Heck, Erron Black's F4 (the boot drop) and Marksmans Rifle shot is only 1 frame slower than his F1.
the sandtoss seems completely useless which I agree on, and Ill only play marksman for those sweet 40% midscreen combos and 47% corner combos with gunswing (unless damage stealth nerf Im unaware of)
At least, one thing I am happy about ironically was the universal runcancel nerf (being only able to do 1). Since EB's guncancel was so bad (not really, just comparative to say, Swarm Queen A-List DragonsFire Hellfire) that you can only hitconfirm with it, by having everyone else's runcancels pressure ending earlier and guranteeing alot less, Marksman's guncancel suddenly doesn't seem so bad, although it still is.