General/Other - Erron Black Erron Black General Discussion Thread

[SonicBOOM XS]

I've just started picking up Erron. Does the 21122xxDBF2 not connect for Kotal?

 

[ienjoywinning]

After playing today for the first time in 2 months, dafuq did they do to Marksman lmao. Pretty much everything worthwhile confirms into 21122 after a GC. Even 11 and standing 2 which are pretty good OSes in the neutral. I'd definitely call Outlaw his worse variation now.

21122/B32/12/F3 are all neutral when GC'd. F2 seems -1 and F24 is +1. The GC/Rifle Swing pressure game can be used on all of these. We've got mids boyz.

4 gc is +2 iirc

 

[The Farmer]

After playing today for the first time in 2 months, dafuq did they do to Marksman lmao. Pretty much everything worthwhile confirms into 21122 after a GC. Even 11 and standing 2 which are pretty good OSes in the neutral. I'd definitely call Outlaw his worse variation now.

21122/B32/12/F3 are all neutral when GC'd. F2 seems -1 and F24 is +1. The GC/Rifle Swing pressure game can be used on all of these. We've got mids boyz.

Good to have you back

 

[KpTz | FOREVER WOLF]

can someone tell me all of errons tick throws?

i know:

21
11b3
d1
d3
d4

what are the other ones since they killed 2 of them in the patch

 

[thlityoursloat]

1, b2, jump kicks.

 

[lionheart21]

Erron can tickthrow off a jumpkick? I didn't know that.

 

[thlityoursloat]

Jump kick tick throws are universal.

 

[lionheart21]

I did not know that you could tickthrow off of those in the game. Good to know.

 

[Bucketfeet]

Had no idea lol

 

[thlityoursloat]

It's something we Commando players knew day 1 since we had hardly any tick throws to work with heh.

 

[21122]

I wish NRS would have increased the hit advantage of F3 in the previous patch. Its like what? +1 on hit lol?

Imagine if they made it like +15 or something. It would become so good since you can then challenge it after ex-sand on block.

 

[HolidaycSin]

Does anyone here use b3,2,u1 for a knockdown?

 

[21122]

Does anyone here use b3,2,u1 for a knockdown?

No, is it a hard knockdown?

 

[HolidaycSin]

No, is it a hard knockdown?

Im pretty sure it isn't, but i kinda like it towards end game when people like to delay wakeup.

 

[21122]

Im pretty sure it isn't, but i kinda like it towards end game when people like to delay wakeup.

Might as well use B3,2,U1 ~ex sand. Plus on block, jails, and more damage.

 

[Youphemism]

Fun fact: You can't do more than 5 SoS2's in one combo. After using 4 SoS2s the gravity on the 5th SoS2 gets extremely large.

 

[The Farmer]

EB forums as of late.

 

[ienjoywinning]

EB forums as of late.

Still the case atm lol

 

[Gofer_MK]

Guess no one plays him anymore... ;(

 

[carrion4worm]

R.I.P. f1....

 

[Youphemism]

Erron's 16 frame overhead gets nerfed to 23 frames but Ermac's overhead gets nerfed TO 16 frames. Nice little bit of consistency there, nerfing an A tier substantially but barely touching an arguable S tier. Isn't that fun?

 

[The Farmer]

Mystic top tier now boys

 

[ATP2014]

I used F1 to regulate ppl mashing down pokes AFTER they got hit. I'm hoping the slower startup doesn't ruin that and make Erron even more free to d1/d3/d4.

 

[Ayase Chihaya]

Didn't this patch hit Marksman really hard?

 

[21122]

NRS didn't think through Erron's changes at all.

Seems like they just increased OH frames and removed armour to keep in line and called it a day for him.

No Outlaw sword fixes, no nothing....