General/Other Council of Sub Mains

[Seapeople]

Easier said than done, bro.

I have no idea how to tell if it's an instant 3 or delayed 3. I just don't use Sub vs Lao. I pick someone with a fast uppercut. lol ... or Raiden b/c you can shocker his teleport.

Just duck. You'll be able to see the instant 3 go over your head and easily 212 afterward. But then Lao can delayed 3 and you'll be stuck eating a block string. I hate the teleport mix ups too so I usually use Cyrax lol

 

[Lord Beef]

So I've been practicing with headphones as of late....holy shit it has mad a HUGE difference in my concentration. I highly suggest it to all you guys if you ever have trouble focusing on the match for one reason or another. OH YEAH, any of you lovely Lin Kuei good with Photoshop?

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

So I've been practicing with headphones as of late....holy shit it has mad a HUGE difference in my concentration. I highly suggest it to all you guys if you ever have trouble focusing on the match for one reason or another. OH YEAH, any of you lovely Lin Kuei good with Photoshop?

If by, "good with photoshop" you mean you can crop a head and paste it over someone's body and make a meme... then yeah.

 

[Seapeople]

So I've been practicing with headphones as of late....holy shit it has mad a HUGE difference in my concentration. I highly suggest it to all you guys if you ever have trouble focusing on the match for one reason or another. OH YEAH, any of you lovely Lin Kuei good with Photoshop?

@Weedoshi

 

[Lord Beef]

I just need a new sig
And no one is making them any more lol

 

[Lord Beef]

@Weedoshi

He hasn't been doing sigs lately

 

[NB Semi Evil Ryu]

Easier said than done, bro.

I have no idea how to tell if it's an instant 3 or delayed 3. I just don't use Sub vs Lao. I pick someone with a fast uppercut. lol ... or Raiden b/c you can shocker his teleport.

You're pretty much in the same boat that I'm in. I don't have enough SZ match-up experience against Kung Lao. I'm starting to get better at it, though. A lot of it IS countering the tele instant 3's. But I haven't been able to train myself to react to the instant / delayed 3 mix-up.

I wish that it was recorded, but I had a really good fight against Forever King and his KL at Season's Beatings, a few weeks ago. For the teleport instant / delayed 3's, I basically just tried to read them. If I thought that he was going to do an instant 3, I'd just duck it and come right back up with 212 freeze combo. If I thought it'd be delayed 3, I'd just uppercut him out of it. It worked well enough, because I was able to take it to the third round in both matches (the final round of the set resulting with him having about 2% health left).

I should probably take my own advice as well, but if you have any friends that play video games; teach them how to do KL's teleport. And then ask them to mix it up between delaying the 3 and doing the instant 3. With this, perhaps in time, it might become easier to react to. I dunno, though.

 

[Lord Beef]

You're pretty much in the same boat that I'm in. I don't have enough SZ match-up experience against Kung Lao. I'm starting to get better at it, though. A lot of it IS countering the tele instant 3's. But I haven't been able to train myself to react to the instant / delayed 3 mix-up.

I wish that it was recorded, but I had a really good fight against Forever King and his KL at Season's Beatings, a few weeks ago. For the teleport instant / delayed 3's, I basically just tried to read them. If I thought that he was going to do an instant 3, I'd just duck it and come right back up with 212 freeze combo. If I thought it'd be delayed 3, I'd just uppercut him out of it. It worked well enough, because I was able to take it to the third round in both matches (the final round of the set resulting with him having about 2% health left).

I should probably take my own advice as well, but if you have any friends that play video games; teach them how to do KL's teleport. And then ask them to mix it up between delaying the 3 and doing the instant 3. With this, perhaps in time, it might become easier to react to. I dunno, though.

Wanna play on ps3,later and practice this?

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

You're pretty much in the same boat that I'm in. I don't have enough SZ match-up experience against Kung Lao. I'm starting to get better at it, though. A lot of it IS countering the tele instant 3's. But I haven't been able to train myself to react to the instant / delayed 3 mix-up.

I wish that it was recorded, but I had a really good fight against Forever King and his KL at Season's Beatings, a few weeks ago. For the teleport instant / delayed 3's, I basically just tried to read them. If I thought that he was going to do an instant 3, I'd just duck it and come right back up with 212 freeze combo. If I thought it'd be delayed 3, I'd just uppercut him out of it. It worked well enough, because I was able to take it to the third round in both matches (the final round of the set resulting with him having about 2% health left).

I should probably take my own advice as well, but if you have any friends that play video games; teach them how to do KL's teleport. And then ask them to mix it up between delaying the 3 and doing the instant 3. With this, perhaps in time, it might become easier to react to. I dunno, though.

Maybe, but I'll probably just stick with picking someone else. lol

 

[Blind_Ducky]

Easier said than done, bro.

I have no idea how to tell if it's an instant 3 or delayed 3. I just don't use Sub vs Lao. I pick someone with a fast uppercut. lol ... or Raiden b/c you can shocker his teleport.

You can't tell if its instant or delayed untill he does it. If you think it's gona be instant 3 do that crouch block thing to make it whiff then punish, if you think he'll do a delayed 3 then as soon as he teleports do a d1

 

[NB Semi Evil Ryu]

Wanna play on ps3,later and practice this?

In a perfect world, where MK 9's online experience was like TTT2's; I'd take you up on this in a heartbeat.

Unfortunately, the MK 9 online is so ass that it wouldn't really work to train for the instant / delayed 3's. Sorry, dude, but my disdain for online is massive. lol....it's good for learning basic match-up's data. But once you get that down, it does nothing but forces you to spend more time getting OFFLINE experience because you become so attuned to how to play online.

Granted, a lot of people are forced to only use online due to lack of local scene. But if you keep going to events like you're going to at MLG, you'll begin to understand just exactly what I'm talking about. /rant

So when you get there to MLG, don't be afraid to ask some of the guys what to do here, what to do there, etc.... Especially Brady. Ask him about what he does for instant / delayed teleport 3 and if he reads them or if he actually REACTS to them. He is nice and a very good teacher when you talk to him in-person.

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

I'd play you... online is my home, but you have PSN... so aiourgf

 

[Lord Beef]

In a perfect world, where MK 9's online experience was like TTT2's; I'd take you up on this in a heartbeat.

Unfortunately, the MK 9 online is so ass that it wouldn't really work to train for the instant / delayed 3's. Sorry, dude, but my disdain for online is massive. lol....it's good for learning basic match-up's data. But once you get that down, it does nothing but forces you to spend more time getting OFFLINE experience because you become so attuned to how to play online.

Granted, a lot of people are forced to only use online due to lack of local scene. But if you keep going to events like you're going to at MLG, you'll begin to understand just exactly what I'm talking about. /rant

So when you get there to MLG, don't be afraid to ask some of the guys what to do here, what to do there, etc.... Especially Brady. Ask him about what he does for instant / delayed teleport 3 and if he reads them or if he actually REACTS to them. He is nice and a very good teacher when you talk to him in-person.

Oh I feel you 100%. My scene is so fragmented right now. I still get some offline play, but not near enough. we have a Bi-weekly down here...but I'm like the only one in my scene who is not like you know....18 hehe. So now everyone is in school and I'm-

But yeah, I'm pretty much 100% on using scorpion vs KL. His D1 is so much easier to punish with, and its less of a read to get the full punish.

 

[loogie]

hello, folks

 

[Skirtsftw]

I'm not really a great player, but I want to be in this league. For just-ICE!

 

[FrozenG3oX]

How do I join ? I'm pretty good with subby....or just ok; still he's my main

 

[Qwark28]

anyone from europe?

 

[FrozenG3oX]

anyone from europe?

Me, from Romania

 

[Qwark28]

Me, from Romania

add bop_ruby and lets get some games in sometime

 

[NB Semi Evil Ryu]

So if I run into a Kenshi during a tournament that just has my number, and I decide to switch from Sub-Zero to Kenshi for that particular match-up; do I still get to be on this council?

 

[xQUANTUMx]

So if I run into a Kenshi during a tournament that just has my number, and I decide to switch from Sub-Zero to Kenshi for that particular match-up; do I still get to be on this council?

Yes. You are established dude, no need to ask
As long as you main sub you are on the council. LBSH sometimes to win, you gotta pick someone else. When I'm getting trounced by Kenshi and I've had enough I switch to smoke or Lao....even beefy alts w scorp


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[NRF CharlieMurphy]

my advice against KL. I do... excuse me.... did this online and a majority of the time it works 90% of the time.

2,2 teleports. 2,2 beats everything but instant 3. Instant 3 only leads into block string.... which if you have your wits ... you can escape. Instead of taking 40%... you take... 7-10%.
This is for those of you who are simply neglecting to back dash teleport (true punish) or don't feel comfortable trying to make that read.

This is basically what Denzell did to PL... because KL doesn't want to instant 3. he wants you to try to d1 or uppercut... so he can land the delayed 3. I promise you.... if you try to do either one of those things... you will lose. The risk reward doesn't favor you in the slightest. Its basically a just frame punish.... and a JF punish in a game with all the crazy shit... is just not worth it.

As for tourney nerves... I always think about what i'm going to do after I win. Seriously. Supreme confidence will get you further than you think. Even against Brady... I was simply sitting there thinking about after I won... standing up and shaking his hand and giving STB a big shoutout for all the hours we put in.

 

[Qwark28]

So if I run into a Kenshi during a tournament that just has my number, and I decide to switch from Sub-Zero to Kenshi for that particular match-up; do I still get to be on this council?

Yes, it is the ultimate humiliation for a subzero to beat a kenshit with kenshit.

 

[Qwark28]

my advice against KL. I do... excuse me.... did this online and a majority of the time it works 90% of the time.

2,2 teleports. 2,2 beats everything but instant 3. Instant 3 only leads into block string.... which if you have your wits ... you can escape. Instead of taking 40%... you take... 7-10%.
This is for those of you who are simply neglecting to back dash teleport (true punish) or don't feel comfortable trying to make that read.

This is basically what Denzell did to PL... because KL doesn't want to instant 3. he wants you to try to d1 or uppercut... so he can land the delayed 3. I promise you.... if you try to do either one of those things... you will lose. The risk reward doesn't favor you in the slightest. Its basically a just frame punish.... and a JF punish in a game with all the crazy shit... is just not worth it.

As for tourney nerves... I always think about what i'm going to do after I win. Seriously. Supreme confidence will get you further than you think. Even against Brady... I was simply sitting there thinking about after I won... standing up and shaking his hand and giving STB a big shoutout for all the hours we put in.

instant 3 is 10% and KL has to spin or jump if he doesnt wanna be poked, I despise how fucking retarded it is that if he pokes then you don't get him and if he jump he'll probably get it due to you fearing 21, constant fucking mixup.

 

[FrozenG3oX]

my advice against KL. I do... excuse me.... did this online and a majority of the time it works 90% of the time.

2,2 teleports. 2,2 beats everything but instant 3. Instant 3 only leads into block string.... which if you have your wits ... you can escape. Instead of taking 40%... you take... 7-10%.
This is for those of you who are simply neglecting to back dash teleport (true punish) or don't feel comfortable trying to make that read.

This is basically what Denzell did to PL... because KL doesn't want to instant 3. he wants you to try to d1 or uppercut... so he can land the delayed 3. I promise you.... if you try to do either one of those things... you will lose. The risk reward doesn't favor you in the slightest. Its basically a just frame punish.... and a JF punish in a game with all the crazy shit... is just not worth it.

As for tourney nerves... I always think about what i'm going to do after I win. Seriously. Supreme confidence will get you further than you think. Even against Brady... I was simply sitting there thinking about after I won... standing up and shaking his hand and giving STB a big shoutout for all the hours we put in.

You beat Brady ? in a sub mirror, or... ?