FTR, even Cole, Pac-Man & MM are on the 360 disc too.
yes, seriously.
yes, seriously.
lol, now that's stupid. i wonder if kratos was on MK9's 360 disc...FTR, even Cole, Pac-Man & MM are on the 360 disc too.
yes, seriously.
Damn Cole? I thought naughty dog was a Sony IP. Kind of strange. And for the comments that say "you don't go online and play random people" what kind of joke is this? Thats all I really have in these games outside of a once or twice a month meet up with my friends for a few hours. snipped* Puts foot in mouth*. This is actually quite well done, maybe just a few tweaks but the other character's vids look good.FTR, even Cole, Pac-Man & MM are on the 360 disc too.
yes, seriously.
If the consumers aren't against it across the board then nothing will happen. If nobody stops it for numerous XYZ triple AAA games, then why should capcom, NRS, namco, aksys, or any other company do anything different?1, i agree, yes it is common, why dont we talk about it here? because those games are not MK, and 12 of the games you listed are not fighting games. so everyone is doing it. that does not make it right. its abusing the consumer.
2, yes it is cheaper for the publisher, yes its cheaper for the developer, no it is not cheaper for you, the person buying it.
3, at the very least they should offer a small patch for free, if it is true they are missing some small files [i dont doubt you]
about skarlet - yes it was the same situation. it still doesnt make it right. people were angry when they found that out.
Take a look at all the endings and cinematics. No voices recorded. Yes majority of the data is in, but there is a small part not yet incorporated.Damn Cole? I thought naughty dog was a Sony IP. Kind of strange. And for the comments that say "you don't go online and play random people" what kind of joke is this? Thats all I really have in these games outside of a once or twice a month meet up with my friends for a few hours. And about the stuff not looking done...
not sure about now, but the game was made on 360 and ported to ps3.lol, now that's stupid. i wonder if kratos was on MK9's 360 disc...
FTR, even Cole, Pac-Man & MM are on the 360 disc too.
yes, seriously.
thats not the problem, at least not mine. But its the fact that they are charging you more money for something you've already bought.People just don't seem to understand. The characters are already on the disc, yes. But they are intended to be DLC characters down the line. Of course everyone is complaining saying we should have the characters now. Just because they're already on the disc doesn't mean we should have them now. They're on the disc so you don't have to buy another version of the game, such as Super SFxT. Them being on the disc means people who don't buy them can still play against them. Otherwise they would have to NOT ALLOW people who don't get the DLC to NOT play online.
People complain that there's all these new versions of SF4. Then when Capcom tries to not do that, they get shitted on anyway. Can't have it both ways.
IT does not matter what excuses/reasons you put to it, ON-Disc DLC is WRONG. And for everyone who is complaining about not being able to play the characters online, then they should do what NRS did with Freddy in MK9. Make a mandatory update that the user MUST download in order to access the game. That is a very EASY AND SIMPLE SOLUTION that will make everyone happy. BTW, that Skarlet model was not accessed from inside of the game. The original YouTube user received an early release of a Beta Skarlet DLC and leaked it on YouTube. None of that was hacked from inside the game itself, as the original game WITHOUT ANY DLC, just has a model of her and nothing more.Ok lets get some facts down first
1) on disc dlc is common in almost everygame. Dead space 2, saints row 3, mw3, mw2, black ops, bf3, ass creed, mk9, dragon age 2, mass effect 3, mass effect 2, pokemon, final fantasy 13-2, soul calibur 5 etc etc.
2) how dlc works in the gaming industry works like this. The retail game gets budgeted first then dlc get budgeted afterward. The whole plan and majority (if not all) of the creation is made before the game goes gold. The reason is 1) its cheaper for the publisher, 2) its cheaper for the developer and 3) so the development team can start on a new project.
3) The characters are missing some files, although it is very small (voices in cutscene and etc).
I mean if the 12 dlc characters didn't even exist, would anybody call SFxT roster small? or call it an incomplete game? No. Before the dlc model even exist character probably would not have been made and if they did it was an addon "super" version of the game.
Is this a shitty practice? In my opinion yes. But it is the reality of all gaming. You either accept it or don't game. That is that.
ps
Just to play the devil's advocate. Does anybody not remember Skarlet model being in the game and could be hacked in? Yes it wasn't 100% working in the game, but a good portion of it was.
Either have it this way, or buy Super SFxT. I for one am glad there's not going to be another version and my SFxT disc is gonna be the only one I'll need.thats not the problem, at least not mine. But its the fact that they are charging you more money for something you've already bought.
its like buying a pizza, but having to pay later to eat the pepperoni on it....lol
wheres the third option where the characters on the disc we bought are playable? everyone seems to magically forget that one.Either have it this way, or buy Super SFxT. I for one am glad there's not going to be another version and my SFxT disc is gonna be the only one I'll need.
The characters are on the disc so you don't have to buy another disc. If they weren't on the disc you would have to buy another version of the game hence another disc. You didn't pay for them just because they're technically on the disc. So there's no third option. They actually listened to the people and now they're getting shit for it only because someone hacked the game.wheres the third option where the characters on the disc we bought are playable? everyone seems to magically forget that one.
i know i dont have to buy another disc. they are on the disc i bought. behind a paywall. for no other reason.The characters are on the disc so you don't have to buy another disc. If they weren't on the disc you would have to buy another version of the game hence another disc. You didn't pay for them just because they're technically on the disc. So there's no third option. They actually listened to the people and now they're getting shit for it only because someone hacked the game.
The reason they're on the disc is so you don't have to buy another one, that's the only reason you need. They aren't available to use because they aren't supposed to be.i know i dont have to buy another disc. they are on the disc i bought. behind a paywall. for no other reason.
"but they aren't finished!!"
so... the game.... was released unfinished?
like i said, i know i dont have to buy another one, because the one i bought already has them. i just have to pay later to access that portion of the disc, even though i already own the disc. its exactly like tim said. its like if you bought a house and you owned the house and the land, but you werent allowed to use the spare bedroom until 6 months. you can see the room and you know that its there in the house that you bought, and you wonder why you can't use the room. all you know is that in 6 months time, youre allowed to use the room BUT only if you pay them again. what the fuck? you paid full price for this house in the first place!The reason they're on the disc is so you don't have to buy another one, that's the only reason you need. They aren't available to use because they aren't supposed to be.
I don't know why you aren't getting this, it's really not that hard... at all.
DLC auto combos
Friend of car salesman: NO BUT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND! ITS SO YOU DONT NEED TO BUY A WHOLE NEW CAR LATER! ARE YOU DUMB?!Me: So this brand new Ford car I've paid for is all mine now?
Car salesman: Yes sir all yours
Me: Really, all mine?
Car salesman: Well kind of sir.
Me:Kind of?
Car salesman: Well yes its all yours except for an item in the glove box.
Me: I don't understand.
Car salesman: Yes there's an item in there that will make your driving experience even better.
Me: Cool when can I have it?
Care salesman. Well it will remain locked in there until you have owned the car for 6 months.
Me: What, that's rediculous!
Car salesman: Oh yes and you have to pay extra for it.
Me: But its mine! Its in my fucking car!
Car salesman: I'm afraid not sir.
Me: I want my money back.
Car salesman: Its only a box a travel sweets. I can't wait to see his face.Friend of car salesman: NO BUT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND! ITS SO YOU DONT NEED TO BUY A WHOLE NEW CAR LATER! ARE YOU DUMB?!
From my understanding the auto combos do lower damage and take up a gem slot that could be used for something better anyway. I think its a good idea to introduce new players. Once people mock them enough the shame will force them to hit training mode anyway.The DLC on disc was bad too, but nothing compares to combo presets...
No, I know people like this, a friend and I are acquainted with an overly casual player who actually got the game 3 days ahead of release. Anyways, he calls out my friend, who's been playing FGs for a long ass time mainly SF. So, my friend plays him and destroys him naturally, and his reaction to this is "Well, I got the game 3 days earlier than you, why did I lose?" This guy switches between a stick that he's beaten to hell and a 360 pad in which he uses the analog stick on it and looks like he has parkinsons disease. Then gets super salty when he loses.From my understanding the auto combos do lower damage and take up a gem slot that could be used for something better anyway. I think its a good idea to introduce new players. Once the people mock them enough the shame will force them to hit training mode anyway.