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Match-up Discussion Cat-woman Vs Bane is not a 3-7 or a 2-8 Mu

cR Biohazard

cR Biohazard

Team Torr
To clear up this confusion, @Ra Helios never convinced me that this MU was 6-4 Bane. I told him that I thought it was 6-4 Bane because I had very little catwoman experience and I knew that Bane won the MU. If @GGA Max believes that this match is 7-3 I'd have to agree with him based on the fact that he plays @GGA 16 Bit all the time, both are top Injustice players that place well at tournaments and I have little catwoman experience. We'll find out what happens Sunday but still, 7-3 Bane in my opinion.
 
ryublaze

ryublaze

Noob
coolwhip said:
I don't know about Scorpion's B2 being completely reactable. Maybe if you're expecting it or sitting there waiting for it, but people, even very good players, get hit with that shit all the time.
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IMO u could kinda react to it if he had u in the vortex because u knew it was coming. but if the scorpion player mixed up his timing on the b2/f4 or threw it out randomly in the neutral game then u couldn't react to it.
 
Kyu

Kyu

CHOO CHOO BANE TRAIN
KingHippo said:
I would like to introduce a simple idea: watching a match between the two, months after they have equally broken down the match, and see what emerges.


Brief Annotations:
Max vs 16 Bit-9/514


0:19 to 0:21-After a blocked Raging Charge, 16 Bit goes for a b3 to get himself into his preferred range. Max decides to do a Raging Charge, knowing that it would have beat a jump forward, walk forward, dash forward and jump back. He correctly assumes Bit would move forward and is struck out of his b3 by the armored Charge

0:26 to 0:28-Bit does a Jump back 2, trying to guess on a movement option or Raging Charge, and Max doesn’t bite. He does another jump back 2 on reaction to the animation of Bane’s attack, which is Raging Charge and not Ring Toss. Bit is punished on his jump back by the Raging Charge

0:31 to 0:39-Bit guesses wrong on a f1 on wakeup and is hit by an armored Lvl. 3 Venom Ring Toss. He jumps back on his wakeup, trying to read a Ring Toss, and his struck by the armored F2d cancelled into Raging Charge MB, which ends the round. F2d at Lvl. 3 is armored, so it would have eaten any wakeup Catwoman had, as well as been a true blockstring had the guess been correct. Short fall, bad landing.

0:41 to 0:47-Max has a healthy lifelead and sitting near a corner interactible. Bit has three bars, but would have to burn them on either MB Catdash or MB b3, both of which he is significantly out of range of. He attempts to dash forward, and Max regains his ground by walking back. Bit attempts to jump and take out Max before he can get the interactible, and is hit by a Venom Uppercut. Catwoman had very little options and was forced to take a big risk, which did not pay off

0:49 to 0:52-Bit makes a great read with a MB b3 on the wakeup b2 from Max. However, due to the level of Venom that Max has, the damage is only about 30%, with any additional damage to be heavily affected by scaling and the Venom level. A great example of poor punishes on Bane due to his Venom damage decrease

1:54 to 2:03-Bit does a jump in 1, sailing over a Bane command grab. When he goes to punish, Max backdashes the f122 string and whiff punishes the string. Bit loses the game after a Ring Toss armored grab on wakeup. Ring Toss whiff animation a big factor in whiff punishing a correctly guessed whiffed Ring Toss

3:59 to 4:16- Bit is downed after a Raging Charge. He tries to backdash the attempted d1 xx special cancel, but Max dashes forward and strikes with D2. Bit again tries to backdash on wakeup to avoid a Ring Toss but is struck by the B23 of Bane. After the combo finishes, he goes to block the wakeup d1 from Bane that he expects but is struck by a Ring Toss. A final d1 xx Ring Toss seals the round for Max. Once Max landed a hit, Bit had little option but to guess without a true wakeup, which resulted in him losing the round.

5:22 to 5:35-Bit loses the round after he goes for standing 3 on Max’s wakeup, only to have the standing 3 lose out to a delayed wakeup Venom Ring Toss. Standing 3 on a wakeup is shown to have a decent counter in the delayed wakeup, which costs Bit the round

6:58 to 7:02-Bit has gained some ground and is on a lifelead. He times his jump so he is able to block the Raging Charge from Bane. He immediately does a f1 to check Max on block, but Max holds back just slightly and whiff punishes with a d2 into a Ring Toss to take the round. Bane’s superior footspeed allows him to counter followup attacks from Raging Charge; only b3 or its mb equivalent would have reached.

8:33 to 8:50-Bit uses a Standing 3 to beat out an armored Ring Toss, and proceeds to spend a bar to send Max through the stage. The combo only did 36%, with the transition doing most of the damage since Bane was out of Venom by the transition started. The combo likely would have done about 32% if the Venom had stayed. Abysmal punish on a good read.

11:03 to 11:06-Bit is hit by a d1, which Max decides to dash forward after as if it were blocked. Bit immediately realizes he’s at advantage frames and jumps back, but is hit out of it by a d2. Bane, even at negative frames, is able to knock her out of the counter attack.

The match is pretty in depth, and although Bit wins, we can see some of the issues that he is describing. In the first post Ra outlines many examples, but you will notice from watching the video that very rarely...

1) Max does Double Punch into MB Venom Upper

2) B3 is hitting Ring Toss out of a d2 cancel "every time"

3) MB Venom Uppercut done raw at a range where a character can dash under

4) Bane "dashing in patterns"

Very few of these options that are presented in the first post actually occur. I wonder why that is? Perhaps it's because the talking points in the first post have obvious counters because they are one-dimensional aspects of the match that have one-dimensional answers. I think it's reasonable to assume that Max and 16 Bit have gotten past those initial 1D matchup aspects and are playing a completely different game, we'll call it Meta 2. These Meta 1 options all sound nice in theory, but against someone who is well trained and versed in the matchup they appear ineffective and require different solutions. What those solutions are? I have no idea. But I will defer to the two who have played the matchup the most.

I will say this: I think that for the matchup to have even a remote chance of getting talked out, the TC could do a lot more than say that he's "just lacking." Have some respect for the thousands of matches the two have played out in an attempt to discover the match and stop bringing up superficial ideas. Find the meat in your argument then come back and argue.
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I'm sorry but it's Body Press, not Ring Toss.
 
Ra Helios

Ra Helios

Omnipotent God-like Selina Kyle Player
THIS IS A RANT AND PEOPLE WILL GET OFFENDED !!!!
BEWARE!!






I don't care what nobody said. I believe this mu is a 4-6 mu period. I refuse!!!! Refuse!!!!!!! To follow by what a tournament player said about Bane beats Cat-woman 3-7. refuse to believe that when I have been playing Cat-woman since this game came out and have more experience then other Cat-woman players and TOURNAMENT PLAYERS!!!

I refuse to Follow behind a Tournament players that down plays his character when he is not using hes or her tools properly in certain mu. The catwoman community is sheep while 16bit is the sheperd leading the sheep like Krayzie ( Free Catwoman) That is how this catwoman community is. This community do not have a mind of its own.

She is mid high tier character not a mid. Been saying this in Test your might for months now. Months now!!!!!

@RM_Biohazard be honest. Who plays the mu smarter? By you watching 16bit plays the mu and you play me. Do I play like 16bit in the bane mu? Or do I play smarter and make the right reads? Plus all the moves I see in the video. You do the same thing to me. Even shoulder charge in close range.

Here a video because I cant get the recent one


Honest opinion. Leave all that tournament favoritism to the side please.

You played me in the king of the hill recently and you played me in a clan battle recently. You have enough data to judge how I play?

People on tym need to have a mind of its own. People that goes to tournament is not always right about their mu and you shouldnt be a sheep to believe them. Especially if you are the type of person that plays at the highest level and probably main the character longer then the tournament player has. Tournament players get more respect then a online player even the ones that is better then them.

My comments are irrevelant because a tournament player that only plays first to 2 to make top 8 can override what I say which is a stupid Stupid!!!!!!

Now that kinetic balding made a mu chart people are kicking him becuase they never saw a mu chart look that way for cyborg before .

Just like me when pig of the hut find me. Told me the post my mu chart and I got blown up because they have never saw mu chart that look like this before. 16bit never main Cat-woman at that time. People was taging krayzie ( because he was the best catwoman at the time. PLEASE!!!!!) with his FREE CATWOMAN NOT EVEN MAKING NO NOISE WITH HIS CHARACTER UNTIL 16 BIT THAT HAS A BETTER CATWOMAN made noise because he was actually doing something. The sheep has to verify with the sheperd because what this online warrior post was CRAZY!!!!!!!! VERY UNHEARD OF!!!!

Ya fools follow your sheperds because you are a sheep. Congrats you making top 8.

But by you making top 8 doesnt mean you can override what I say about the mu because im a online warrior that's proBably better then you but get no respect from this community because 75% of these people here are sheeps and have different sheperds.

Ya Tournament players that think that way are lucky im not in a tournament.....

YA ARE LUCKY!!!!!!! BAD MU OR NOT I WOULD JUST OUTPLAY YOU!!!!! WITH A BOTTOM TIER CHARACTER YOU SAY? IF PEOPLE ON THE STREAM WITH THOSE THOUSANDS OF VIEWS SAW MY CATWOMAN THEY WILL BE FOAMING IN THE MOUTH!!!!! PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE THIS CHARACTER IS MID HIGH!!!!!

Thats it. Just need to get that off my chest.
 
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Peckapowa

Peckapowa

Champion
EMPEROR_JUPITER said:
You explained best-case scenario for all of these things tbh, I've lost my entire life bar from guessing wrong against bane. Catwoman is also difficult to vs online, slight frame delay can make her below average mix ups and untrue block strings look much better then they really are. His command grab definitely isn't reactable, it's 20 frames. An average reaction time is 24 frames, a freak of nature would have about a 21-22 frame reaction time, making it a true mix up.
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Dude, average reaction time for a human is a little over .2 or around .25... 20 frames is .33 of a second isn't it??? now i can't react to command grab and jump, i guess but i can react martian's 18 frame overhead and block...

It's tough to explain this.
 
Doombawkz

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
Ra Helios said:
THIS IS A RANT AND PEOPLE WILL GET OFFENDED !!!!
BEWARE!!






I don't care what nobody said. I believe this mu is a 4-6 mu period. I refuse!!!! Refuse!!!!!!! To follow by what a tournament player said about Bane beats Cat-woman 3-7. refuse to believe that when I have been playing Cat-woman since this game came out and have more experience then other Cat-woman players and TOURNAMENT PLAYERS!!!

I refuse to Follow behind a Tournament players that down plays his character when he is not using hes or her tools properly in certain mu. The catwoman community is sheep while 16bit is the sheperd leading the sheep like Krayzie ( Free Catwoman) That is how this catwoman community is. This community do not have a mind of its own.

She is mid high tier character not a mid. Been saying this in Test your might for months now. Months now!!!!!

@RM_Biohazard be honest. Who plays the mu smarter? By you watching 16bit plays the mu and you play me. Do I play like 16bit in the bane mu? Or do I play smarter and make the right reads?

Here a video because I cant get the recent one


Honest opinion. Leave all that tournament favoritism to the side please.

You played me in the king of the hill recently and you played me in a clan battle recently. You have enough data to judge how I play?

People on tym need to have a mind of its own. People that goes to tournament is not always right about their mu and you shouldnt be a sheep to believe them. Especially if you are the type of person that plays at the highest level and probably main the character longer then the tournament player has. Tournament players get more respect then a online player even the ones that is better then them.

My comments are irrevelant because a tournament player that only plays first to 2 to make top 8 can override what I say which is a stupid Stupid!!!!!!

Now that kinetic balding made a mu chart people are kicking him becuase they never saw a mu chart look that way for cyborg before .

Just like me when pig of the hut find me. Told me the post my mu chart and I got blown up because they have never saw mu chart that look like this before. 16bit never main Cat-woman at that time. People was taging krayzie ( because he was the best catwoman at the time. PLEASE!!!!!) with his FREE CATWOMAN NOT EVEN MAKING NO NOISE WITH HIS CHARACTER UNTIL 16 BIT THAT HAS A BETTER CATWOMAN made noise because he was actually doing something. The sheep has to verify with the sheperd because what this online warrior post was CRAZY!!!!!!!! VERY UNHEARD OF!!!!

Ya fools follow your sheperds because you are a sheep. Congrats you making top 8.

But by you making top 8 doesnt mean you can override what I say about the mu because im a online warrior that's proBably better then you but get no respect from this community because 75% of these people here are sheeps and have different sheperds.

Ya Tournament players that think that way are lucky im not in a tournament.....

YA ARE LUCKY!!!!!!! BAD MU OR NOT I WOULD JUST OUTPLAY YOU!!!!! WITH A BOTTOM TIER CHARACTER YOU SAY? IF PEOPLE ON THE STREAM WITH THOSE THOUSANDS OF VIEWS SAW MY CATWOMAN THEY WILL BE FOAMING IN THE MOUTH!!!!! PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE THIS CHARACTER IS MID HIGH!!!!!

Thats it. Just need to get that off my chest.
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Doombawkz

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
Peckapowa said:
Dude, average reaction time for a human is a little over .2 or around .25... 20 frames is .33 of a second isn't it??? now i can't react to command grab and jump, i guess but i can react martian's 18 frame overhead and block...

It's tough to explain this.
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I can explain it.
Bane's command grab is a touch-based hitbox. It hits faster the closer you are to him.
So when he is tick throwing you, the grab is about 16 frames. Its only 20 frames at max distance.
 
Peckapowa

Peckapowa

Champion
EMPEROR_JUPITER said:
Anything below 18 frame reaction or so is something you'll see in 1/10000 people. The average human reaction time is 24 frames, and many fighting game players I can think of have above average reactions, but still get hit by bane's command throw. Many people in the NRS community have not been playing these fighting games for over a decade, so I find it unfair to compare SF reactions to NRS player reaction time, simply because there top players have spent over a decade blocking mix ups.
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physiology doesn't change based on what games people play, but reaction is aided by expectation and in games as you become more in tune with the game your reaction become instinctive and closer to that base. That being said, there could be a number of reasons people don't react to command grab, 1. people resort to guessing 2. It's is visually misleading and harder to react to 3. the way you have to react is to jump, and that is much different than blocking because you are already ducking, so there are added frames

I would say it's a combination of those.
 
E

Eldriken

Guest
Ra Helios said:
THIS IS A RANT AND PEOPLE WILL GET OFFENDED !!!!
BEWARE!!






I don't care what nobody said. I believe this mu is a 4-6 mu period. I refuse!!!! Refuse!!!!!!! To follow by what a tournament player said about Bane beats Cat-woman 3-7. refuse to believe that when I have been playing Cat-woman since this game came out and have more experience then other Cat-woman players and TOURNAMENT PLAYERS!!!

I refuse to Follow behind a Tournament players that down plays his character when he is not using hes or her tools properly in certain mu. The catwoman community is sheep while 16bit is the sheperd leading the sheep like Krayzie ( Free Catwoman) That is how this catwoman community is. This community do not have a mind of its own.

She is mid high tier character not a mid. Been saying this in Test your might for months now. Months now!!!!!

@RM_Biohazard be honest. Who plays the mu smarter? By you watching 16bit plays the mu and you play me. Do I play like 16bit in the bane mu? Or do I play smarter and make the right reads?

Here a video because I cant get the recent one


Honest opinion. Leave all that tournament favoritism to the side please.

You played me in the king of the hill recently and you played me in a clan battle recently. You have enough data to judge how I play?

People on tym need to have a mind of its own. People that goes to tournament is not always right about their mu and you shouldnt be a sheep to believe them. Especially if you are the type of person that plays at the highest level and probably main the character longer then the tournament player has. Tournament players get more respect then a online player even the ones that is better then them.

My comments are irrevelant because a tournament player that only plays first to 2 to make top 8 can override what I say which is a stupid Stupid!!!!!!

Now that kinetic balding made a mu chart people are kicking him becuase they never saw a mu chart look that way for cyborg before .

Just like me when pig of the hut find me. Told me the post my mu chart and I got blown up because they have never saw mu chart that look like this before. 16bit never main Cat-woman at that time. People was taging krayzie ( because he was the best catwoman at the time. PLEASE!!!!!) with his FREE CATWOMAN NOT EVEN MAKING NO NOISE WITH HIS CHARACTER UNTIL 16 BIT THAT HAS A BETTER CATWOMAN made noise because he was actually doing something. The sheep has to verify with the sheperd because what this online warrior post was CRAZY!!!!!!!! VERY UNHEARD OF!!!!

Ya fools follow your sheperds because you are a sheep. Congrats you making top 8.

But by you making top 8 doesnt mean you can override what I say about the mu because im a online warrior that's proBably better then you but get no respect from this community because 75% of these people here are sheeps and have different sheperds.

Ya Tournament players that think that way are lucky im not in a tournament.....

YA ARE LUCKY!!!!!!! BAD MU OR NOT I WOULD JUST OUTPLAY YOU!!!!! WITH A BOTTOM TIER CHARACTER YOU SAY? IF PEOPLE ON THE STREAM WITH THOSE THOUSANDS OF VIEWS SAW MY CATWOMAN THEY WILL BE FOAMING IN THE MOUTH!!!!! PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE THIS CHARACTER IS MID HIGH!!!!!

Thats it. Just need to get that off my chest.
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Ra, dude...

Ignore this thread now. Shit is about to hit the fan.
 
PPJ

PPJ

()
Elder God
NetherRealm Studios
Ra Helios said:
THIS IS A RANT AND PEOPLE WILL GET OFFENDED !!!!
BEWARE!!






I don't care what nobody said. I believe this mu is a 4-6 mu period. I refuse!!!! Refuse!!!!!!! To follow by what a tournament player said about Bane beats Cat-woman 3-7. refuse to believe that when I have been playing Cat-woman since this game came out and have more experience then other Cat-woman players and TOURNAMENT PLAYERS!!!

I refuse to Follow behind a Tournament players that down plays his character when he is not using hes or her tools properly in certain mu. The catwoman community is sheep while 16bit is the sheperd leading the sheep like Krayzie ( Free Catwoman) That is how this catwoman community is. This community do not have a mind of its own.

She is mid high tier character not a mid. Been saying this in Test your might for months now. Months now!!!!!

@RM_Biohazard be honest. Who plays the mu smarter? By you watching 16bit plays the mu and you play me. Do I play like 16bit in the bane mu? Or do I play smarter and make the right reads?

Here a video because I cant get the recent one


Honest opinion. Leave all that tournament favoritism to the side please.

You played me in the king of the hill recently and you played me in a clan battle recently. You have enough data to judge how I play?

People on tym need to have a mind of its own. People that goes to tournament is not always right about their mu and you shouldnt be a sheep to believe them. Especially if you are the type of person that plays at the highest level and probably main the character longer then the tournament player has. Tournament players get more respect then a online player even the ones that is better then them.

My comments are irrevelant because a tournament player that only plays first to 2 to make top 8 can override what I say which is a stupid Stupid!!!!!!

Now that kinetic balding made a mu chart people are kicking him becuase they never saw a mu chart look that way for cyborg before .

Just like me when pig of the hut find me. Told me the post my mu chart and I got blown up because they have never saw mu chart that look like this before. 16bit never main Cat-woman at that time. People was taging krayzie ( because he was the best catwoman at the time. PLEASE!!!!!) with his FREE CATWOMAN NOT EVEN MAKING NO NOISE WITH HIS CHARACTER UNTIL 16 BIT THAT HAS A BETTER CATWOMAN made noise because he was actually doing something. The sheep has to verify with the sheperd because what this online warrior post was CRAZY!!!!!!!! VERY UNHEARD OF!!!!

Ya fools follow your sheperds because you are a sheep. Congrats you making top 8.

But by you making top 8 doesnt mean you can override what I say about the mu because im a online warrior that's proBably better then you but get no respect from this community because 75% of these people here are sheeps and have different sheperds.

Ya Tournament players that think that way are lucky im not in a tournament.....

YA ARE LUCKY!!!!!!! BAD MU OR NOT I WOULD JUST OUTPLAY YOU!!!!! WITH A BOTTOM TIER CHARACTER YOU SAY? IF PEOPLE ON THE STREAM WITH THOSE THOUSANDS OF VIEWS SAW MY CATWOMAN THEY WILL BE FOAMING IN THE MOUTH!!!!! PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE THIS CHARACTER IS MID HIGH!!!!!

Thats it. Just need to get that off my chest.
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you are almost certainly wrong but i admire the fact you truly believe in what you say. also your posts make me smile
 
HGTV Soapboxfan

HGTV Soapboxfan

"Always a Pleasure"
Ra Helios said:
THIS IS A RANT AND PEOPLE WILL GET OFFENDED !!!!
BEWARE!!






I don't care what nobody said. I believe this mu is a 4-6 mu period. I refuse!!!! Refuse!!!!!!! To follow by what a tournament player said about Bane beats Cat-woman 3-7. refuse to believe that when I have been playing Cat-woman since this game came out and have more experience then other Cat-woman players and TOURNAMENT PLAYERS!!!

I refuse to Follow behind a Tournament players that down plays his character when he is not using hes or her tools properly in certain mu. The catwoman community is sheep while 16bit is the sheperd leading the sheep like Krayzie ( Free Catwoman) That is how this catwoman community is. This community do not have a mind of its own.

She is mid high tier character not a mid. Been saying this in Test your might for months now. Months now!!!!!

@RM_Biohazard be honest. Who plays the mu smarter? By you watching 16bit plays the mu and you play me. Do I play like 16bit in the bane mu? Or do I play smarter and make the right reads?

Here a video because I cant get the recent one


Honest opinion. Leave all that tournament favoritism to the side please.

You played me in the king of the hill recently and you played me in a clan battle recently. You have enough data to judge how I play?

People on tym need to have a mind of its own. People that goes to tournament is not always right about their mu and you shouldnt be a sheep to believe them. Especially if you are the type of person that plays at the highest level and probably main the character longer then the tournament player has. Tournament players get more respect then a online player even the ones that is better then them.

My comments are irrevelant because a tournament player that only plays first to 2 to make top 8 can override what I say which is a stupid Stupid!!!!!!

Now that kinetic balding made a mu chart people are kicking him becuase they never saw a mu chart look that way for cyborg before .

Just like me when pig of the hut find me. Told me the post my mu chart and I got blown up because they have never saw mu chart that look like this before. 16bit never main Cat-woman at that time. People was taging krayzie ( because he was the best catwoman at the time. PLEASE!!!!!) with his FREE CATWOMAN NOT EVEN MAKING NO NOISE WITH HIS CHARACTER UNTIL 16 BIT THAT HAS A BETTER CATWOMAN made noise because he was actually doing something. The sheep has to verify with the sheperd because what this online warrior post was CRAZY!!!!!!!! VERY UNHEARD OF!!!!

Ya fools follow your sheperds because you are a sheep. Congrats you making top 8.

But by you making top 8 doesnt mean you can override what I say about the mu because im a online warrior that's proBably better then you but get no respect from this community because 75% of these people here are sheeps and have different sheperds.

Ya Tournament players that think that way are lucky im not in a tournament.....

YA ARE LUCKY!!!!!!! BAD MU OR NOT I WOULD JUST OUTPLAY YOU!!!!! WITH A BOTTOM TIER CHARACTER YOU SAY? IF PEOPLE ON THE STREAM WITH THOSE THOUSANDS OF VIEWS SAW MY CATWOMAN THEY WILL BE FOAMING IN THE MOUTH!!!!! PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE THIS CHARACTER IS MID HIGH!!!!!

Thats it. Just need to get that off my chest.
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Dude. Just take another couple minutes to write things out correctly. People will automatically give you more respect that way. It's hard to take you seriously when you're writing at an elementary school level.
 
E

EMPR_MURK

Warrior
Ra Helios said:
THIS IS A RANT AND PEOPLE WILL GET OFFENDED !!!!
BEWARE!!

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA





I don't care what nobody said. I believe this mu is a 4-6 mu period. I refuse!!!! Refuse!!!!!!! To follow by what a tournament player said about Bane beats Cat-woman 3-7. refuse to believe that when I have been playing Cat-woman since this game came out and have more experience then other Cat-woman players and TOURNAMENT PLAYERS!!!

I refuse to Follow behind a Tournament players that down plays his character when he is not using hes or her tools properly in certain mu. The catwoman community is sheep while 16bit is the sheperd leading the sheep like Krayzie ( Free Catwoman) That is how this catwoman community is. This community do not have a mind of its own.

She is mid high tier character not a mid. Been saying this in Test your might for months now. Months now!!!!!

@RM_Biohazard be honest. Who plays the mu smarter? By you watching 16bit plays the mu and you play me. Do I play like 16bit in the bane mu? Or do I play smarter and make the right reads? Plus all the moves I see in the video. You do the same thing to me. Even shoulder charge in close range.

Here a video because I cant get the recent one


Honest opinion. Leave all that tournament favoritism to the side please.

You played me in the king of the hill recently and you played me in a clan battle recently. You have enough data to judge how I play?

People on tym need to have a mind of its own. People that goes to tournament is not always right about their mu and you shouldnt be a sheep to believe them. Especially if you are the type of person that plays at the highest level and probably main the character longer then the tournament player has. Tournament players get more respect then a online player even the ones that is better then them.

My comments are irrevelant because a tournament player that only plays first to 2 to make top 8 can override what I say which is a stupid Stupid!!!!!!

Now that kinetic balding made a mu chart people are kicking him becuase they never saw a mu chart look that way for cyborg before .

Just like me when pig of the hut find me. Told me the post my mu chart and I got blown up because they have never saw mu chart that look like this before. 16bit never main Cat-woman at that time. People was taging krayzie ( because he was the best catwoman at the time. PLEASE!!!!!) with his FREE CATWOMAN NOT EVEN MAKING NO NOISE WITH HIS CHARACTER UNTIL 16 BIT THAT HAS A BETTER CATWOMAN made noise because he was actually doing something. The sheep has to verify with the sheperd because what this online warrior post was CRAZY!!!!!!!! VERY UNHEARD OF!!!!

Ya fools follow your sheperds because you are a sheep. Congrats you making top 8.

But by you making top 8 doesnt mean you can override what I say about the mu because im a online warrior that's proBably better then you but get no respect from this community because 75% of these people here are sheeps and have different sheperds.

Ya Tournament players that think that way are lucky im not in a tournament.....

YA ARE LUCKY!!!!!!! BAD MU OR NOT I WOULD JUST OUTPLAY YOU!!!!! WITH A BOTTOM TIER CHARACTER YOU SAY? IF PEOPLE ON THE STREAM WITH THOSE THOUSANDS OF VIEWS SAW MY CATWOMAN THEY WILL BE FOAMING IN THE MOUTH!!!!! PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE THIS CHARACTER IS MID HIGH!!!!!

Thats it. Just need to get that off my chest.
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Laos_boy

Laos_boy

Meow Hoes
@Ra Helios I respect the fact that you don't follow the crowd. We all have different opinions. And yes you do have a different play style than CW. But to get things straight, since 16 bit played the game a year before anyone! I'm pretty he has more CW experience than all of us. Now if playing max doesn't change your mind tomorrow just say that and let it go. We are all stubborn and want to be right but we just gotta let it go
 
EdFig81

EdFig81

Original OBS mbr/VSM/G4S
smh here we go. :(
also @Maxter was the first catwomen i saw before he stoppled playing / played Lobo

anyway.


oh and I for one hope the match still happens on pigs stream.
 
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