Captain Cold General Discussion Thread

[Rooks]

I think this character would be way less clunky if trait could not be held but he instead got a full bar of trait for pressing the button. Make it a shorter channel time than the current time it takes to get a full bar, or maybe keep it the same and higher levels don't take longer charge time. Give him the option to meter burn it for 2 bars maybe.

His trait needs something done to it imo as it's way too hard to find time to charge it. His level 3 seems garbage and a complete waste of meter.

Captain Cold feels like an unfinished character.

What are you using to create time/space to attempt to charge? You can also tap trait mid combo after MB puddle and after d+2 AA and still get combo.

 

[Swoops]

EDIT: it also ends in HKD to allow trait charge after juggles

Could someone help me understand this? I've heard it mentioned multiple times that B232 is a hard knockdown, but the AI always techs it in training mode. Help o.o

 

[Tanno]

Could someone help me understand this? I've heard it mentioned multiple times that B232 is a hard knockdown, but the AI always techs it in training mode. Help o.o

It's not a HKD. It just gives you some time to charge your gun. The SKD is the 213, and the HKD would be like Sub's F12 and 112. He has nothing of the HKD sorts.

 

[pogse]

great CC footage. can get a lot out of it against rushdowns.

 

[Icy Black Deep]

He has nothing of the HKD sorts.

F233 is a hard knockdown but I think recovery is too slow to allow time for a trait charge. B232 gives you time because the last hit can be canceled into trait charge.

 

[RoboCop]

Played Cold vs Adam last night and it felt like a very uphill battle. From certain distances I could counterzone ok, but one wrong guess and there goes my health bar.

 

[tafka Djinn]

Played Cold vs Adam last night and it felt like a very uphill battle. From certain distances I could counterzone ok, but one wrong guess and there goes my health bar.

That's just Black Adam though. Pretty much any character you pick against him you have to go in with the mentality of never making the wrong move, it's stifling as hell like IGAU pre-nerf.

 

[Tanno]

Played Cold vs Adam last night and it felt like a very uphill battle. From certain distances I could counterzone ok, but one wrong guess and there goes my health bar.

He has a weakness. I noticed that a while ago, when I faced him. When you see him doing his magic against you, just jump forward. His magic works where you are, so you need to jump away from it.

 

[Ninequads93]

I really wana play this char but having 12 EX ice puddle not link is a major down fall for CC.

It actually does combo.....



If they're in the snowglobe :0

P.S forgot to check d1 ice puddle

 

[Strangeotron]

worst character in the game. no options to deal with spam. no way to get in. no combos or mixups and half his moves are useless

 

[dribirut]

So what potential buffs would you guys like given to this character?

 

[Strangeotron]

So what potential buffs would you guys like given to this character?

I'm not sure how you address issues on a character by character basis because I think they are more symptomatic of a deeper problem with how the game is designed. Long range zoning is effective because the game's design favours that. Cold has no answer to that. He's meter dependent and his long range moves, projectile/deathsicle, are too slow to compete.

 

[snort]

So what potential buffs would you guys like given to this character?

12 EX Ice Puddle should link, get rid of dashing resetting freeze timer on trait, give him a new string.

 

[Tanno]

I guess I'll open the buff thread for CC here.

 

[dribirut]

I could be completely off base here but this is what I would like:
F21 plus 1 on block
12 ice puddle link
No reset if ice globe when they backdash
Ice wall plus 7 on hit
Trait doesn't go down to closes full trait bar after cinematics

 

[RoboCop]

Give him Superman's f23, Adam's damage, Aquaman's chip, and.....just one of Harley's hyenas; come on, she's got 2 and he's gone none! In the immortal words of Donald Trump, "VERY UNFAIR".

 

[The Gabriel]

Cold looks so sad and pitiful after watching the Sub Zero trailer.

 

[Hara-Killer]

Cold looks so sad and pitiful after watching the Sub Zero trailer.

Lvl 2 trait Beats sub
Ice wall probably beat 2 ice clones

well atleast so far cap cold >>>> Sub..... only in 12 july sub showcase ? damm

 

[The Gabriel]

Lvl 2 trait Beats sub
Ice wall probably beat 2 ice clones

lmao...comedy gold.

 

[Saboteur-6]

Recently taken an interest in ol' Captain here. Seems like a lot of effort goes into charging trait for lvl 2 snow globe. What kind of big damage does the globe lead to?

Also, is there a guide or anything that goes over the basics?

 

[Saboteur-6]

So is there a Captain Cold Discord were most of the discussion is happening that I could get an invite to please? I'm digging my Mr. Freeze skin and this character seems like a fun hybrid zone/trap/rush style.

 

[pogse]

I don't know if there is a guide but I would recommend to watch Buffalo for setups and then honeybee for neutral game.

would recommend to emphasize on the trap/rush style and less zone. against a zoner, his zoning is relying on momentum and 1 mistake could lead to a change of pace/enemy gaining meter.

 

[Saboteur-6]

I don't know if there is a guide but I would recommend to watch Buffalo for setups and then honeybee for neutral game.

would recommend to emphasize on the trap/rush style and less zone. against a zoner, his zoning is relying on momentum and 1 mistake could lead to a change of pace/enemy gaining meter.

I'm new to the character but just at quick glance he seems to need to rush/trap/setup more against zoner characters and zone/trap/setup more aginast rush character.

Thanks for the info about Buffalo and Honeybee. Any channel specifically I should be looking at for Buffalo / Honeybee stuff?

 

[pogse]

I'm new to the character but just at quick glance he seems to need to rush/trap/setup more against zoner characters and zone/trap/setup more aginast rush character.

Thanks for the info about Buffalo and Honeybee. Any channel specifically I should be looking at for Buffalo / Honeybee stuff?

you can search for buffalo here https://www.youtube.com/user/pighut/videos
and honeybee on his channel https://www.youtube.com/user/HoneyBeeCommandeur/videos

 

[M.D.]

Played a set vs Fate.
Questioned my sanity and reason of choice why would I do that instead of throwing myself at the metro rail.