Bottom 5 Character Project

[Sage Leviathan]

1) Jade
2) Sheeva
3) Baraka
4) A Kabal that doesnt NDC
5) Kano

I refuse to put CSZ on here
And for those whove placed Noob on their lists... have you even played a Noob Saibot main?

 

[Vulcan Hades]

But my point still stands. Bottom tier = characters with the least good matchups and the most bad matchups.

If 5 characters have more bad matchups and less good matchups than Kano and Sub-Zero, then these two cannot mathematically be bottom. You can't change how tier lists work.

 

[VOR]

This is tough but I'd have to say Jade, Sindel, Sheeva, Stryker are the bottom 4. Those 4 characers still have serious gameplay tools lack. Bottom 5 is hard to say because the next one of five is too close. I really encourage more top players to seriously explore Baraka. He has his issues though, like CSZ, Ermac, and Kano.

 

[IKizzLE]

Wow, I think thats pretty ballsy saying those characters are bottom level. Firstly, Sektor's F2 into leg lift gives you a 50/50. He has anti-wakeup flamethrower, a unique homing projectile, instant air teleport with combo on hit (armor on EX wakeup I think, not positive), and a hit confirm into teleport. He can get 40% with one bar. Ermac has a huge damage output, AA lift, TKP keeps good distance and has low/medium vortex off teleport (see thread in forums). Kenshi is underrated IMO, can get in easy by the ground, he has an OTG (at least I think so, not sure if it's patched), tonnes of safe strings, projectile X-Ray, a reflect and a move pretty similar to TKP in spirit charge. Scorpion is high risk, high reward. He has unblockable Hellfire which is good for turtlers. He has best vortex in game, as well as EX teleport on wakeup has armor and has adv. on block. Liu Kang is actually Top 5 I think. He has some of the best rushdown, great low, medium mixups, super fast, insane pressure. His Back 3 1 2 combo is ridiculous. But still, I respect your opinion.

Swag....PLEASE read the posts before and after that one. PLEASE!

 

[smokey]

My bottom 5 in no order is Jade, Stryker, Sheeva, Sindel and CSZ.

This tier list is from the version of the game that we are seeing right now. The top players playing top characters at top level deny the characters that i listed a good matchup chart. Played by an equally good player at an equal level, the tools they were given in design will never allow them to play against the top tier characters tools which counter them. Thats not down to players skill. All of you people preaching the word of Mr Mileenas sindel rushdown are neglecting the presence that armoured moves have in this game, not only allowing them to blow through rushdown, but blow through zoning and allow them to start their own game, of which sindel cant then do alot against because of her character design (lacking armoured attacks).

Take what i say with a pinch of salt for now, because things are going to play out differently before this games end, and no doubt things will change again and again with different players descovering different stuff, but for now this is how i see it sticking, and unless there are some serious discoveries its not going to shift drastically.

 

[EndofGameBoss]

LOL @ the Sindel choices. I use to think Sindel was trash too, even when I mained her until I played Husteen. He fucking crushed me because I didn't see that shit coming. Someone that can utilize her zoning and up close game together is dangerous. I've been working on her in the lab while I use Smoke...I think I may use her at FR to help show people her potential.

 

[KingHippo]

Only thing people need to wake up about is the fact that there are terrible characters in this game. Jesus never seen so much denial in my life.

 

[PPJ]

Wow, I think thats pretty ballsy saying those characters are bottom level. Firstly, Sektor's F2 into leg lift gives you a 50/50. He has anti-wakeup flamethrower, a unique homing projectile, instant air teleport with combo on hit (armor on EX wakeup I think, not positive), and a hit confirm into teleport. He can get 40% with one bar.

I actually like kizzle's opinion that sektor is bottom 5 material even though I didn't list him there myself. He is a character that looks amazing on paper but in reality has so much shortcomings like his piss poor range on his "godlike" 6 frame jab and its followups. First off, f2 into leglift stance is a risky setup since even on HIT sektor can be interrupted after f2 before making any move since u3 takes 14 frames to start before you can even do anything, including u3 3(4) which is an additional 6 frames. Second, wakeup flamethrower is easily stuffable and unsafe on block against most characters. Third, a good amount of characters can get up to 40% midscreen with NO bar, so combo damage isn't something sektor excels at either. Lastly, iaTU is indeed good but its easy to screw up execution wise with it, and ex tele on wakeup has no armor.

If you're fighting sektor, always crouch block against him. Like swifttomhanks said before, there is almost no reason to block high against sektor. Either that or pick Mileena against him.

 

[Pagan]

And hear I thought this community new the game by now but apparently not. I can't believe some of the characters that are making the list. Nobody playing a character doesn't mean that character sucks.

My bottom 5:

NPO: Jade, Stryker, Sheeva, Scorpion, Nightwolf


Why don't we just make a tier list and not delete it instead of doing this kind of stuff?

 

[Wemfs]

1. Kratos
2. Kratos
3. Kratos
4. Kratos
5. Kratos

 

[CURBOLICOUS]

NO WAY Cage, Sindel, Sub Zero, Ermac, Stryker, Noob, or Baraka are bottom tier. If there were more people that put time into any of those characters they can be really deadly. If you im wrong i will tell you otherwise cuz i have a pretty good explaination for all of them.
My Bottom five would be this in NPO: Jade, Sheeva, Kano, Quan Chi, and Nightwolf.

 

[PND_Mustard]

Who the fuck put cage bottom 5.

 

[ELC]

Who the fuck put cage bottom 5.

*sigh* Not gonna live that one down am I? fml ...

 

[SunnyD]

1. Kano
2. Sheeva
3. Kratos
4. Baraka
5. Jade

I think Jade is better than people give credit for.

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

1) Jade
2) Sheeva
3) Baraka
4) A Kabal that doesnt NDC
5) Kano

I refuse to put CSZ on here
And for those whove placed Noob on their lists... have you even played a Noob Saibot main?

A kabal that doesnt NDC is just doing 50/50s though, thats probably harder to beat than an NDC kabal

1. Jade
2. Stryker
3. Sheeva
4. Baraka - This is where the characters start getting good though IMO, good as in could potentially win a Major
5. Sub Zero

Been saying alot lately how sick Baraka is and still stand by it.

 

[Enenra]

Who said Rain is bottom five, and are they attending EVO?
If you are, see you there. Scorpion can take a rest for a few matches.
And whoever put Scorpion in bottom 5, please pm me an explanation or something because right now I think you're basing that off the online scrubs with less than 10 games. Get 'em Sage, Noob bottom 5 my arse.

I may sound salty, but there are FAR worse characters than these 3. Noob is mid-low I agree, but Scorpion is a truck and I just picked him up 4 or 5 days ago. PL has him as top 3. Rain... I just don't even comprehend.

 

[Zoidberg747]

1. Jade
2. Sheeva
3. Stryker
4. Sub Zero
5. Baraka

They are all viable and imo could win a major(First three are by far the worst in my opinion, a lot worse then SZ or Raka).
Also am going to say that people are overrating Sindel. No she is no longer bottom 5, but top 15? This new rush down strategy is too new, eventually a top level player is going to face this and find some easy new way to beat it. I would still say Sindel is bottom 10, but I will be sure to catch some Sindel's at majors.

 

[Hitoshura]

-Sheeva
-Baraka
-Stryker
-Jade
-Noob

Noob best this list followed by Jade and sheeva in my opinion.

u think noob is worst character in the game. surely u jest? Noob has way more tools and what not then jade and stryker.

 

[RunwayMafia]

It's sad to think that Sindel players are sitting next to their calenders, waiting for Final Round so they can watch Mr. Mileena use her, instead of going to the lab and learning their own god damn character. The game's been out for almost a year. Pathetic.

Are you kidding? I've been tearing up bloody asses with her since day 1. I got top 16 at DEV and before getting on the stream I won a few matches with her alone then I continued the rest of the tourney with Kitana. Her community is rather small, it's basically me, Dan Cock, and now Mr. Mileena who have really mastered her. No one is sitting next to their calenders waiting for shit...

 

[CJKRattlehead]

And hear I thought this community new the game by now but apparently not. I can't believe some of the characters that are making the list. Nobody playing a character doesn't mean that character sucks.

My bottom 5:

NPO: Jade, Stryker, Sheeva, Scorpion, Nightwolf


Why don't we just make a tier list and not delete it instead of doing this kind of stuff?

Scorpion? Please explain...

 

[PimpUigi]

I think it's such a shame Jade is the worst character in the game...I mean, why did NRS nerf her?????

"Jade’s U3 attack (Pole Vault) can now be ducked."

 

[Enenra]

Scorpion? Please explain...

Yes, please, elaborate. Give me your argument so I can poke holes in it....

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

Bottom 5 will never be accurate.

There are 3 good nightwolf players that go to tournaments that I have heard of. Of those 3, 2 have placed well. Of those 2, 1 has gone into the military.

The one that is left has not had the pleasure to fight 90% of people posting that NW is bottom 5. Until you fight the best person for the character in an offline tournament setting you lack the information to place that character.

Just saying.

 

[RunwayMafia]

Yes, please, elaborate. Give me your argument so I can poke holes in it....

I'll be honest...I used to think Scorpion was trash UNTIL I met a player who put me in that damn vortex and literally dismantled my gay ass! I was dumbfounded and literally couldn't do a damn thing...same thing with Quan...which is why I wouldn't dare put either of those gents in the bottom 5! Scorpion is scary...I hate him, lol!

 

[Salad Petresky]

I believe sub zero is utter trash lol, but honestly brady makes this underdog character looks awesome. So I can not place sub bottom 5. I mean if Chris g did not win ceo or because of THTB, I dont even think reptile would be on top 10 or top 12. So a lot of bottom 5 are just not being represent by awesome players.

NPO: Sindel, Jade, Noob Saibot, Stryker, and I have to put night wolf cause he gets rushed down too easily ... I do fear a good night wolf player, but someone has to be #5

P.S 1 word guys: JAX