But that should be par for the course for armor, not 1/3 of a life-bar. And it seems like that actually is par for the course in MKX now.Now we have to save meter for our precious push to get out of pressure and take a juicy 14% lol
Basically he paid extremely hard cash to receive in exchange a set of what could be called "luxury buffs" that highly probably won't allow him to build a decent gameplan in the future even in the new meta (where offense has, ironically, become actually stronger apparently). He had a crappy gameplan before, but it was a plan afterall: meter management, and fear of armor.But that should be par for the course for armor, not 1/3 of a life-bar. And it seems like that actually is par for the course in MKX now.
I was in the minority that thought pre-patch Kenshi wasn't quite AS bad as a lot of people made him out to be... but I certainly can't see how the overall changes to MKX's neutral/meta didn't help a character like Kenshi. It's like this dude in another thread losing his goddamn mind because (Cybernetic) Kano doesn't have armor on EN Kano Ball, without looking at the overall picture.
I wish Kenjutsu's DB4 was like the new 2 bars armor moves, 1 for armor, later meterburn (from regular or ex ones) for combo.Kenshi never won based on his Combos, pressure, or pokes but patience and meter managment and dare I say gimmicks. Now his meter use is very limited and still has the same strings.
BALANCED got a +Push but it doesnt matter cause nothing can follow besides another ex push lol.He also is able to combo after ex slash which is I believe 24 frame.
POSSESSED im not really sure what it got but watching pig get uppercutted after every teleport and pressured after evey move besides the ex down smash(Forgot name) it looks bad. Also with losing armor on the ex sickle he has nothing that stops relentless pressure.
KENJITSU my personal fav I can live without the armor on sword spin but the tele ex suspend nerf really hurts his anti air now its like lob city over my head.
If I am wrong in any of this please let me know, but for now kenshi seems worse. On to injustice 2 lol please dont make green arrow or deadshot garbage.
thats not true, in corner EX push jails into pressure. Only thing bad about EX Push is on a hard read opponent can NJP punish it. its not like TS(kitana)Kenshi never won based on his Combos, pressure, or pokes but patience and meter managment and dare I say gimmicks. Now his meter use is very limited and still has the same strings.
BALANCED got a +Push but it doesnt matter cause nothing can follow besides another ex push lol.He also is able to combo after ex slash which is I believe 24 frame.
i have to ask do the people you play have special abilities like Reading into the future, OH slash in unreactible. you do know that right. noone is gonna go: ohh an overhead slash is coming and just lighting move across the map like GoKU like it is Dragon Ball Z. I play online and in tournaments and i think the Slash is twice as good now, way better recovery and better hit advantage that grants follow up now. its great. so it Tele-Flurry, can be ducked, but thats what other projectiles are for.Nobody is getting hit by Ex OH Slash. It's so slow and pretty much everybody stand block after blocking low coz well Kenshi has no low,low string. This buff while nice on paper does very little for him.
My initial impressions on Kenshi after the patch are like pretty much any Kenshi player i talked to yesterday:
Kenshi feels even worse then before the patch.
i wish Kenshi had scorpions D4I wish Kenjutsu's DB4 was like the new 2 bars armor moves, 1 for armor, later meterburn (from regular or ex ones) for combo.
can we give it like another hour at least before we call this character shit. I mean I'm not to high on him right now either but buy god it hasn't even been a day can we at least explore the character more.
this is what i said. i actually am noticing zoning having an impact in this game, and Balanced seems twice as good. but damn 1 day and some kenshis are like he is shit worthless. can't have possibly grinded matchups or learend the new fighting meta and style.I'm still undecided on Kenshi. I'm like 50/50 still lmao I can see both sides tbh. Time will tell.
I was like this too, i felt everything was diumb at first and hated losing my armor. then a friend told me everyone is great that wasnt and encoraged me to use a character i havent before. after that i started to realize how the Universal changes helped all. and that i was clutching to my armor way to much prepatch and thats why i felt sour about the changes. when you learn the new meta and become familiar with it you will understand.But that should be par for the course for armor, not 1/3 of a life-bar. And it seems like that actually is par for the course in MKX now.
I was in the minority that thought pre-patch Kenshi wasn't quite AS bad as a lot of people made him out to be... but I certainly can't see how the overall changes to MKX's neutral/meta didn't help a character like Kenshi. It's like this dude in another thread losing his goddamn mind because (Cybernetic) Kano doesn't have armor on EN Kano Ball, without looking at the overall picture.
I do play people on high competitive level i dont judge match ups nor Kenshi on "oh i beat my sunday friends online with Kenshi so he must be good" like many here. Thats why people like me, Pig and many others just dont see the point in arguing on TYM.i have to ask do the people you play have special abilities like Reading into the future, OH slash in unreactible. you do know that right. noone is gonna go: ohh an overhead slash is coming and just lighting move across the map like GoKU like it is Dragon Ball Z. I play online and in tournaments and i think the Slash is twice as good now, way better recovery and better hit advantage that grants follow up now. its great. so it Tele-Flurry, can be ducked, but thats what other projectiles are for.
he has way less recovery on his moves now. its not 3-29 anymore, they can not go full screen and punish off one wiff of TF or one run though of OH slash, you can Push them in mid run and steal there Stmina and leave them for dead full screen to throw whatever you want.
its a new Age for Balanced.
Nothing against you man, but I have watched this forum for over 5 years, and i have seen the KEnshi forum and know you are a good guy and i decent player. but i think you are to stuck in old Kenshi world and need to get a few months using the new kenshi before calling him Garbage. 1 day after patch is not enough time to be like he is shit and worse than before. if all your friends are saying that then, they need to settle down and learn all MU's the game is different and all characters are different in this meta. ther eis no tie rlist or Matchup Kowledge anymore. its square one. and noone can say Day 1 Kenshi Balanced is shit. Everyone has the same Universal tools now, HTB's are useless with double hitting armor, and many things are better now, less Stmina means less pressure. no more mixups in your face then rc into rc, you kockem out then they right on you like a fly, that age is gone. its been slowed down and made more defensive.
just cant convice others who think he is trash, to me it seems you guys have done nothing but try to help this character with plethora of buffs, and now he got suffecitent changes that really do help him, others just complaine because they feel he is the same and nothing can help him. im sure if the people complaining made the patches for him, the other 40% complaining would have a problem with those changes and say they where garbage and didn't help.EX OH is -10 but has pushback. Even point blank most jabs don't reach.
And thats true but sadly we have quite a few character who have 6/7 frame advancing normals, like Cassie, Tremor and LeatherFace comes to mind top of my head. And they all punish it clean.EX OH is -10 but has pushback. Even point blank most jabs don't reach.
Your just a trash ass player, drop the fukin game and go pickup street fighter. Kenshi is way better then pre patch.Nobody is getting hit by Ex OH Slash. It's so slow and pretty much everybody stand block after blocking low coz well Kenshi has no low,low string. This buff while nice on paper does very little for him.
My initial impressions on Kenshi after the patch are like pretty much any Kenshi player i talked to yesterday:
Kenshi feels even worse then before the patch.
So much facts in this post idk where to begin with it.Your just a trash ass player, drop the fukin game and go pickup street fighter. Kenshi is way better then pre patch.
"Kenny"jutsu lost any mojo he had though (and he didn't even have much before)...EX OH is -10 but has pushback. Even point blank most jabs don't reach.
Ok, lets give Kenshi something OP to help you guys win some games because clearly you guys are trash as fuk. Seriously, the patch was released yesterday and you fools are already downplaying? Gtfo, It's time to look in the mirror and stop blaming your character.So much facts in this post idk where to begin with it.
Thanks for proving my point about people posting on TYM these days.
I'm not going to lie, I'm probably one of the few (if not then the only) Kenshi main who believes he's viable. Top tier? No, but by no means worse than pre-patch. But saying we're solely blaming our character is really undermining our skill levels. We all spent months and months playing Kenshi, dude. We know what to do with the character.Ok, lets give Kenshi something OP to help you guys win some games because clearly you guys are trash as fuk. Seriously, the patch was released yesterday and you fools are already downplaying? Gtfo, It's time to look in the mirror and stop blaming your character.
Dude, any footage? I would like to see your tournament game.I do play people on high competitive level i dont judge match ups nor Kenshi on "oh i beat my sunday friends online with Kenshi so he must be good" like many here. Thats why people like me, Pig and many others just dont see the point in arguing on TYM.
It would've been nice if they gave him the RIGHT buffs.. like yknow, a safer TF on whiff, it's something we've been complaining about DAY one and all they did was reduce its recovery from 57 to 46.. ridiculous.just cant convice others who think he is trash, to me it seems you guys have done nothing but try to help this character with plethora of buffs, and now he got suffecitent changes that really do help him, others just complaine because they feel he is the same and nothing can help him. im sure if the people complaining made the patches for him, the other 40% complaining would have a problem with those changes and say they where garbage and didn't help.
Great job NRS with the universal changes and props to making Zoning relevant. im loving it, and starting to get into the new meta.
We were all wondering how much he would be buffed, how many frames of recovery would be shaved off tf, how much his close up game would improve, and in the end he basically got nerfed lolIt would've been nice if they gave him the RIGHT buffs.. like yknow, a safer TF on whiff, it's something we've been complaining about DAY one and all they did was reduce its recovery from 57 to 46.. ridiculous.
Ditto for Lackey, his entire game plan revolved around his safe armor. Characters like Kenshi and Lackey whose gameplans revolve around their armor should've either been heavily reworked or just kept their armor.We were all wondering how much he would be buffed, how many frames of recovery would be shaved off tf, how much his close up game would improve, and in the end he basically got nerfed lol
I never expected that pre October Kenshi felt top tier compared with this crap we have now.
I wonder when people will realize that removing armor from Balanced's exrising karma is even more terrible than Grandmaster Sub's clone letting projectiles go through it or going away with jabs. Breaks his game.