I know Smash isn't a fighter, but look at Melee:
Except the other guy is wrong. If you don't use the appropiate combo and do a move that is 2 years on whiff of course you can get punished. If you adapt the combos you will always be at advantage when the opponent breakaways.
I've said this same thing so many times in various threads.
The better characters in the game have good mid strings, though. You don't have to look too far up the tier list to see them. Characters like Baraka, Kabal, and Liu Kang have safe and hit-confirmable mid strings. The characters who don't such as Kano, Kotal Kahn, and D'Vorah are the ones people are placing low on their tier lists.
I agree with many of your points.This is, competitively, the best Mortal Kombat ever made. The flow of the gameplay is great, with a good balance between going ham and being patient. Lots of walking and waiting/being patient followed my moments of intense action.
Right now there are only two things I would change:
1) Having no resource management around Fatal Blows is a bit silly. This thing that you get for free, that does a pile of unbreakable damage and can help some people achieve near-40% unbreakable combos, but you don’t have to save any meter to use, and if you whiff it, you just get it again. Some of them hit at footsie range or beyond. Imo the current state of the fatal blow goes again much of what the meta stands for, which is think, wait your turn, consider the tradeoffs of everything, earn your damage.
2) I like the idea of krushing blows — and most of them are fine. But I think that several of them should be tuned to reward knowledge rather than sheer luck. For example, Sonya doing a third of your lifebar if you make a read on her ring and block/jump the the first one but are hit by the second doesn’t seem to reward any sort of skill. Nor making a wrong read a couple times on Erron diving in with his mixup from half screen. Other than that though, it’s a neat mechanic and I appreciate the ones that you have to work for. D2 is neat since everyone has access to it.
Aside from this, this game is exposing:
1) The people who’ve been spoiled by overtuned zoning. You mean you might have to think when you toss out a projectile, rather than mindlessly tossing things out and meter burning them for mixups on block? You might have to actually play footsies while you zone, like Street Fighter? Shame.. Welcome back to thinking again in MK11
2) People who are used to having shortcuts around dealing with neutral.
3) People who jump to conclusions before they’re fully playing the game. If you really want to make assumptions about the cast right now, you should be flawless blocking everything that can be flawless blocked. If you’re sitting there taking pressure from characters with sizable gaps and doing nothing about it because you’re dependent on being able to mash armor like it previous games, it’s time to hit the lab.
We still need some time at this point to flesh out the meta and truly play characters and MUs optimally. It’s fine to have a gut feeling that says a character is weak or too strong, but saying you know exactly how to rebalace the cast in Week 2 is silly, and there are several players who I’d think would have enough experience and maturity to know better.
The plus strings are definitely few and far between. But there are a fair amount of 50/50s and mixups leading to smaller damage (or even bigger for some characters) in MK11 -- enough to make the mixup/risky players happy, I'd think.
Yeah i tried to make it work but his f2 mid is super negative on every hit and his 21212 string is three hits high to start lol
Absolutely should be zero full screen fatal blows. When I play Erron the amount of harassment and foolishness I can get away with because I have a ten frame full screen unbreakable launcher is wild. If you look at me the wrong way you getting blasted. I also hate it versus those two as well because it makes you have to play super gimped and overly cautious and these characters all have strong ways of chipping you out and close out rounds WITHOUT adding the full screen Krushing Blows to the mix.
If you could tech with just the throw button, there would be no reason to also significantly reduce the damage.
I still think 14% is a lot. 3 grabs in 1 round and thats 42%... I think 10-12% is enough. No other MK9, X, Inj 1 or 2 didn’t have throws do that much. Nobody complained about them being weak.
Without the 50/50 aspect, you're not going to be eating them like you are now though is the thing. There's less crazy combos in this game in comparison to the other games too so it's not the same deal.
That’s true, but throws are still hard to react to. You won’t get hit by 5 per round like we are now, but they will still be strong with lack of mix ups. 14% is high.
I think all fatal blows are unsafe on block. If you crouch Erron Black's fatal blow, he cannot block for half a second. All forward advancing special moves can punish. From my limited testing, a couple can even punish anywhere on the screen such as Kabal's nomad dash, Noob's tele-slam, and Scorpion's teleport. Kabal's and Noob's punishing is a lot more difficult to execute than Scorpion's, though.
Let me re-phrase, I wish the combos were the same length as MK9 / MKX. I’m simply saying that if they kept the damage output at its current rate but with the combo length of the old games, you would kill someone in one combos. I would rather see longer combos working for damage than 2 buttons - Amp Special - 2 buttons - Ender doing 35 -40 percent.
